1% rule: 1% of users actively create new content, while the other 99% only lurk.
1% rule: 1% of users actively create new content, while the other 99% only lurk.
a.k.a. the 90–9–1 principle. Does the Fediverse follow this rule, or are there more creators here as early adopters? Are you a creator, a participator or a lurker?
I mean...creating stuff takes work. Even commenting is a lot harder than mindlessly scrolling memes. My head hurts now.
The rule doesn't apply to early adopters, due to the self-selection effect.
The question seems to imply that this ratio is problematic, but it is in fact fine.
There this sense now that “being a creator” has intrinsic value, but this value is an artifact of platforms that exploit its users creations. So much so that we now have an immense amount of low quality fast food grade, in fact toxic, content. Content pollution.
So, whatever the ratio is. If you want to post post, if you want to comment comment, if you want to lurk lurk.
As long as we are all enjoying the experience, who cares?
I'm trying my hardest. I've never created a sub but now I'm creating communities, making add-ons and trying to post. Freedom here of corporate interests is awfully nice. The fediverse is expanding but we're already seeing contracting due to the influx in early June... we definitely had community sprawl. However that was expected. Many communities are doing great! It's great to see!!!
I'm almost always a lurker, but I feel like there's a difference when it comes to how participation occurs in fediverse communities versus the majority of mainstream social media platforms. It seems that many people here are genuinely interested in creating a space for quality discussion and healthy communities which motivates me to interact, whereas it's hard to feel like anything you come across is organically presented to you on platforms that are profit driven that aim to be as addicting as possible. All forms of social media have issues imo but this is it in one of the most accessible and least gameified, corpritizied forms
Maybe part of what makes TikTok so powerful, how it categorizes videos in an addicting way, is that it turns the lurkers into contributors/voters by using watch time as a proxy for voting.
I'm mostly a lurker, pretty rarely commenting and posting even less, but I'm trying to be more active on lemmy. I just don't feel like I ever have anything interesting to contribute to any discussion.
Variants include the 1–9–90 rule (sometimes 90–9–1 principle or the 89:10:1 ratio),[1] which states that in a collaborative website such as a wiki, 90% of the participants of a community only consume content, 9% of the participants change or update content, and 1% of the participants add content.
I've heard mods say it's like that on Reddit: 1% create posts, 9% comment on posts, and the rest lurk. Many people have suggested that the people most likely to leave Reddit because of the recent issues are in that 10% of posters and commentators.
I've historically been a lurker because I'm too lazy to comment most of the time. However, I've been trying to participate on Lemmy more than I did on Reddit in an effort to boost the fediverse and really turn this into the Reddit replacement that I want it to be.
Folks want to see an active community.
The real lurkers don't even register.
I comment a lot more here than Reddit
Lurker here. I burrow underground and shoot out spines for AOE damage. Great at choke points and nearly invincible when working under a dark swarm.
Just a lurker for now
FInally, something I'm in the 1% of.
All I can say is I am grateful there are fewer users on Lemmy. It's nothing like Reddit. There's less garbage to sort through. So, one percent of a smaller user population definitely makes a difference in my Lemmy life. I lurk less here than I did on Reddit, mostly because I don't have to scroll through crap as much. There's still crap, just less crap.
This isn't the 1% rule I've heard of 😂
Im a predator rrrrrrr
It feels a lot more active here than in reddit at least. In reddit it was common to have posts with 5k+ upvotes and less than 100 comments.
Well, according to data from https://the-federation.info, 26.8% of Fediverse user accounts have commented or posted something in the last month. I'm not sure if I completely trust this wide-reaching dataset but it's something. Lemmy overall at its peak had 18.5% until a flood of bot accounts with no activity appeared on some open-signup servers, now it's at 3%.
Lemmy.world is sitting at 27% active user ratio, beehaw.org at 34.7%, lemmy.ca at 32.3%, lemmy.ml at 12%, sh.itjust.works at 19.2%
I lurk 99% of the time and post 1% of the time
Similar thing with me. I wasn’t strictly a lurker, but I also never created a sub, for example — everything already kinda existed.
Here, I’ve started several communities and am trying to grow those. Plus it sometimes feels like it’s up to me to post/comment stuff that would’ve been already on Reddit by the time I got there.
And for now at least, I like kbin’s vibe better than whichever one Reddit had for the past few years. So we’ll see how it goes :)
I'd wager early adopters tend to be more active. Probably it has something to do with the size of the community too, you don't feel like you're being drown in the noice and most people don't have that "I need my voice to be heard" impulse (I have to be fair) which drives people to actively participate in something like Reddit-size when they don't have anything particularly insightful to say.
I only make a post or make content when I feel like something I want to make is worth it or has a point to make. Most the stuff I want to post or make has also already been done so I don't want to clog stuff up with what is a worse version of the original.
Hey, I posted one whole cat picture. I'm a contributor.
I'm a contributer! I've posted cute puppy pics, a frog I saw, and an example of chatGPT cleaning up OCR text.
I'm normally a lurker but I try to contribute stuff for the sake of the fediverse.
I think there is a bit of a trend with social websites where initially a large amount of the original active user-base is involved in content creation, but whether through gradual growth or an "eternal September" event (I have seen both first-hand), a large influx of users generally attracts more consumers than producers. Right now I think the Fediverse is still fairly niche despite how long it has been around for, so we have a larger share of creators compared to consumers. I try and participate in making stuff where I can :)
Was a lurker before I came to lemmy, trying to change that! I just don't think of things to say.
I don't know if everyone here knows this rule but I'm 100% sure Steve Huffman doesn't
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I’m a light participator. I’m looking for a community to call home, but I’m not highly social, so I don’t comment a ton. Maybe once I find the right communities to subscribe to, but for now I mostly browse all looking for new appealing communities, and comment where it might add value.
Part of the reason is that those 1% are just the people forwarding articles the first microsecond they are out, and if you don't check yourself and submit like a normal person would, your post will get buried and ignored, or worse, you will just get accused of duplicating to farm karma. Sometimes by karmawhores just trying to brigade out the competition and get material to feed their own karma addiction.
Thanks for sharing. I would also be interested if this reflects Lemmy. 1% would be higher than I suggested to be honest.
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I’ve been a long time lurker on other social media platforms, but I’ve started to try and contribute more since I’d like to see communities I like succeed. Maybe then I can go back to lurking
I have been way more active on Lemmy than I ever was on "the other place". And I wasn't entirely inactive there either, it was just mostly constrained to niche subs. Here I'm just commenting everywhere and relatively often.
I think right now, there are relatively more creators and contributors. The platform is still pretty new and I think most of us here want to see the platform succeed.
I basically never posted anything back on reddit and I would comment sparingly. I have definitely tried to increase my contribution to help prevent things from being empty.
I have even taken to posting articles in !linux_gaming@lemmy.world, which is now starting to see more contribution from other users, especially after 1 July.
I participate in discussion, but I rarely start threads.
I‘m a particilurker xD
I never post, but I do comment.
I'm a lurker naturally but I'm invested in growing the community here so I'm trying to post and comment like crazy
Never been called out like this. Oh well. I think I'm still a lurker unless I'm called out.
I'm primarily a lurker. Back on Reddit I'd create posts here and there, but I'd mostly contribute to discussion fairly often. I only had around like 28k karma from comments over the course of 11 years, so I wasn't super prolific by any means.
I miss how big the community was on Reddit at times. I'm still trying to figure Lemmy out. Trying to figure out how to make the instances work on the app can be frustrating, but I really hope to see Lemmy grow into a proper competitor and become more polished and robust. I like it so far, it shows promise.
I am mostly lurking because I need to take the time to better understand the visibility of voting and commenting. Not that I want to be a jerk and get away with it, I've just seen bits and pieces about how user actions are not as obfuscated as they were on reddit, and I want to understand what that means in practice
Do comments count? You're welcome.
Nine-nine !
I tend to mostly just participate by adding comments. But occasionally a create a new post/thread. So I'd say that I'm personally 85% lurk, 14% comment, 1% create/post. I tend to post in more specialized/niche forums versus the big communities. Those have lots of content already.
I feel much more motivated to comment compared to post.
According to the-federation.info, lemmy.world has 92k users, 25k of which were active in the past month. So, yeah, it doesn't hold true at the moment.
I'm a participator. I leave a comment every now and than. Maybe a post once a month or so.
I've been very post-y and very commentish since I got here. I did most of the posting in the sub I modded on reddit, and it's the same over here. I guess it would be fair to say I've been equally engaged on both platforms. (I'm only posting here now, tho.)
Not yet and as the early adopters we should contribute as much as we can while at the same time being careful not to post low quality or repetitive things.
The platform will naturally mature if it is fit to do so.
I participate where I feel I'll be of value in some way, lurk when something is interesting but I have nothing to add to the conversation and very rarely create
I alternate. Sometimes a lurker, sometimes a creator and most of the time a participator. But I do find myself creating more posts while on the fediverse.
I used to post a lot of comments on Reddit, but never anywhere else.
I posted more on mastodon than anywhere else
Since leaving Reddit definitely more participation. Even started some communities; a thing I never really cared for doing, but seems more appropriate and rewarding here!
Lurker. By the time I want to post something it's already been said.
Definitely more active than before. But still unlikely to create many posts.
I used to lurk. Still do, but used to too.
Mostly Lurking as I try and learn the new space, as I get more comfortable I plan on engaging more with the community
Lurker.
I'm like 70/30 lurker to contributor I think, same deal as before I jumped ship.
I'm definitely making more of a concerted effort to interact at the minute, though, to help with numbers and so on.
The rule is always true
I'd say I do a fair amount of lurking. I participated a lot more on Reddit, but I'm just trying to get a feel for the scene.
I mean think of Hollywood or sports. Most people don't do those things but they do consume it.
I used to be a lurker. People can change.
Part of the reason is internet commentators are so mean to each other, and many of us users don’t want to be judged by someone? (Although extreme echo chamber is also a bad thing)
I am a big part a lurker, but I also create content sometimes
My first idea was "uh, interesting - why not do a poll for that?"
And then I noticed that would end up in some kind of lurker-paradox🤔
Finally, I'm a one percenter.
I hardly ever posted on Reddit but I would comment about as much as here. I'm trying to be the change I want to see in the world, so I'm posting a bit more.on the kbin.social NYC magazine (aka community). If you like or are interested in NYC, please visit and poat/comment!
I don't think I'll ever create content, but I'm happy to try and comment on the stuff you guys create. Thats probably the most I'm capable of.
I have created the Kia Community. As a owner of the car, it's been awesome to find other owners who can share their knowledge & advice on maintenance & driving the car. Invited others in!
Why you gotta call me out like that? :D
I'm finally part of the 1%!
I tend not to post often but I like to comment.
The people that lurk will not participate and skew the result.
first day here, and it's too early to predict in which direction this will take off. i am hoping to create and post content around day-to-day happenings.
A bit like free-to-plays, where only 1% of players spend money.
I've never created a subreddit but created a magazine here! Scoping for content to help build our new home. I just figure that if you ditched reddit you're kinda obligated to pitch in on the new space, idk.
Even if you don't create a magazine, just share something interesting once in a while?
I would be really curious if this was the case prior to the advent of smartphones. Was the ratio the same on early USENET or BBS? It’s so much easier to lurk than participate from a smartphone keyboard.
And only 1% of the 1% contribute meaningful content.
The only 1% I will ever be a part of 😅
I'm a lurker. Sometimes a participator. Rarely a creator.
Mostly a creator, back when I used Twitter and Facebook I used it as a write only medium. On the fediverse I try to read some stuff also and participate by commenting and voting.
Depends on the community. I do comment more than I post.
I was a lurker/participator on reddit but am more active on Lemmy -- I created community !ultralight@lemmy.world
I've always been a lurker on Reddit. But with Lemmy I'm trying to be as active as I can, with both posts and comments
I don't think I have anything of value to post but I try to comment at least.
And the .1% who create good content get 99% of the shit/harassment form the lurkers and the .9% who create shitty content.
The only reason I talk here is because I don't want Lemmy to die.
I was a lurker on Reddit unless I had a question in a technical forum. Here, I post on lemmy/kbin because the communities are smaller and welcoming.
Mostly lurker, I sometimes comment but social anxiety is a thing even on the internet for me.
I‘m a participator I guess, I tend to comment random thoughts. I don‘t think I do it much more on here than on Reddit, the excitement of a new thing has worn off and now it feels about the same level of engagement.
Surely a participator. I try to make usefula nd interesting comments. I will post when I have something worth saying/doing.
But, I'm not making memes or whatever constantly.
I would like to put together a bit for a sub, but I haven't made the time yet.
A jack of all trades, but master of none
*lurk*
I'm very much in the 1% I think
Do cat & beer pics = "creator"? That's me.
Reddit has spoiled me😭
Lurker through and through
Definitely participator, but I have some ideas for contributing some day. I just don't want to share other stuff that's online, I'd rather share my research into a given topic and what conclusions I drew that might help people. I want to publish works here, not really other stuff on the internet.
Not sure if Lemmy is the place for that though, given how it's a link aggregator. People posted their works on Reddit so I'd say it's good enough to post stuff like that here
On Reddit I just made a few comments and posts, mostly a lurker.
Here it's completely different, I have my own magazine, where I put the effort of making a post daily, and it actually feels better than lurking.lurking intensifies
I used to almost never post on reddit, but on here I have been posting OC content, commenting and I have even created a community (https://lemmy.world/c/cancer)
The TAHP 1% of lemmy users post 99% of the content. This is not right, nor is it fair!
I tend to lurk mostly, but I've posted here and there when its called for
The last days i was more of a lurker because i have a lot of stuff to do. But when i have more time i plan to visit a lost place that i could not find with searches. I only found that because two of my friends ignored each other. I think at some time they did it for fun but it really annoyed me.
Except that i cant find anything about it it is not very interesting. More like 3 old floors and a room where they meet. The floors are not even in different directions.Commenting counts as creating content right? If so, I'll be glad to continue as a serial commenter and rare poster :')
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Is there a way we can measure this? I’m genuinely curious what the numbers are.
I would have thought there’s a disproportionately larger number of creators here than other sites as I feel like it’s the creators that were more impacted by Reddit’s api changes than the lurkers… but seeing all the “I’m a lurker” comments in this thread makes me question that hypothesis.
Mostly lurker and sometimes participator.
En français https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Règle_du_1_%25
Très intéressant.
I think because it's a rather new platform for many people, they behave differently. Some are getting used to Lemmy and are not posting as much, while some are more enthusiastic.
Overall I'd say it will be pretty much the same in the long run
I'm part of the 10%.
Lurker
Upvoting lurker.
I don't post a whole lot but I do comment regularly.
I comment am I important now 😭
Never been called out like this. Oh well. I think I'm still a lurker unless I'm called out.
a lurker
Rawr o.o
