1y ago

Al Jazeera investigation refutes Israel's "failed Palestinian rocket launch" narrative regarding the strike on the al-Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza

www.aljazeera.com Was the Gaza hospital attack caused by a failed rocket launch? | Bird’s Eye View

An Al Jazeera digital investigation found no grounds to the Israeli army claim that the strike on the al-Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza was caused by a failed ro...

A link to the Al Jazeera article and video: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/19/what-hit-ahli-hospital-in-gaza

A Channel 4 News investigation also confirms that Israel's audio tape of “Hamas operatives discussing the rocket malfunction" is a fake with their experts saying that the tone, syntax, accent and idiom sound absurd and not credible: https://www.channel4.com/news/who-was-behind-the-gaza-hospital-blast-visual-investigation

This would also not be the first time that the Israeli government has lied about "misfired Palestinian rockets": https://mondoweiss.net/2022/08/after-initially-blaming-palestinians-israel-admits-to-airstrike-that-killed-5-children-in-gaza/

The Israeli army has been trying to prevent international journalists and independent bodies from entering Gaza to act as independent investigators: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60EK-3-kGLI

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1y ago

Video investigation: What hit al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza?

www.aljazeera.com /news/2023/10/19/what-hit-ahli-hospital-in-gaza

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This is the first report that mentions there are multiple airstrikes hitting around the hospital at the time it was hit. Finally. I felt like I was going crazy.

It’s honestly wild anyone even has to waste energy and resources to dispute this. there’s never been a single event of such a devastating explosion from a single missile coming from Hamas but the one apparently they have they just end up using it on their own people?? Bffr
- Shocked to hear the obvious bullshit was actually bullshit.
  Still, good on AJ for bringing receipts and hopefully ending this farce.
- What is "Bffr"? Until now I thought it was like a "pff" like an exasperated exhalation. Here seems like I'm missing something with that translation
  
  "be fucking for real"

What's nuts is how little this ends up mattering in the end. Israel put out a bullshit accusation which is parroted ad nauseum because that is what the masters in the US state department ordained. By the time the dust settles and things become clear, it is too late and the mainstream media pretends to forget that they propagated heinous lies.
There is a special circle in hell for bloodthirsty settlers and their apologists.
- *Pearce Morgan saying he never mentioned decapitated babies
- The last decade has felt exactly like the time a kid from my middle school invited me to their house after school on a Wednesday night but instead I got locked in a fucking church basement with 20 batshit crazy adult pentecostals trying to "convert me to Christianity" for three hours and didn't let me leave until I called the preacher an inbred, ignorant goat fucking moron for not understanding why a catholic could maybe somehow potentially be offended by the breathtaking audacity of whoever was involved in his theological education
  How the fuck would this ever have worked? Even one time? To quote Tucker Carlson, "What, is going on?"

I hate how an unwinnable argument over the cause of a single horrific bombing took over mainstream discourse when there's countless objective atrocities by Israel. It's distracting from everything else and genocidal fucks must love that.
- Like they didn't even wait 24 hours before flattening a fucking mosque while everyone was still arguing about it

I went to /r/worldnews just to see if this report or anything similar was anywhere to be seen. Absolutely not. In fact, I couldn't find a single story that showed any kind of sympathy towards Palestine. Those, I found only when I sorted by controversial.
- don't quote me on this but i'm pretty sure al-jazeera is one of their banned sources

This video analysis seems pretty definitive.
Not that I believed the propaganda at any point, but yesterday morning I was feeling a bit unsure about having definitive thoughts on this, given my expectations initially about what an area hit by a missile would look like.
So I think today we’ll see the tide turn against the propaganda similar to how it did with the beheaded babies. But with this, Genocide Joe has already doubled and tripled down on his position, so now it’s gonna be what Americans believe (because a lot of them want to believe it). “Chinese spy balloon” all over again.
- This is how it always goes. Israel does something, blames Hamas, then when it becomes indisputable that it was Israel, they fall back on the "human shields" propaganda, but the story leaves the news cycle before that can be refuted.
  
  it's just "STOP RESISTING" but against a few million people

But Joe Brandon told me he saw proof. And decapatated babies… /s
- In the closet decapitating babies, and one of the babies looked at me, etc

I was arguing with someone on Facebook who relayed that Israel is now floating the "theory" that the hospital was used a munitions stockpile
And this fucking dipshit swallowed it hook line and sinker
- I wish I could regain the innocence of being just another liberal moron. Feeling your long term memory and pattern recognition being born anew each and every time fucking you wake up must be really soothing.
  I'm on that new day, new hippocampus grind
  
  It's like reading the cursed tomes and gaining the ability to see the all-consuming ghoul god hovering in the sky. Like "well, I'm not confused anymore but knowing is arguablly worse."
  
  I feel this. I wish I could tune all this shit out and just go about my day. But I feel like I'm watching the entire world crumbling around me and everyone is just along for the ride.

Israel bombing AJ headquarters in Qatar in 3...2...

Hundreds of Egyptians are attacking the Rafah crossing to demand its opening to bring aid to Gaza and chanting:"pull your tricks, Palestine, with the ball of 100 million pounds".
https://streamable.com/3ktrzo
- pull your tricks, Palestine, with the ball of 100 million pounds
  can anyone help me understand what this means

German Ministry of the Interior:
If necessary, we will deport all Hamas supporters from the country.

Walla website:
The Israeli government approves an emergency regulation to close broadcast stations that it believes “harm the security of the state.”
- Funny how every Western freedom evaporates the moment it becomes even mildly inconvenient for the state
  Checks and balances? You can just wave your hands and go “umm EMERGENCY” and they all disappear
- Is that the one where one of the kibbutz survivor was interviewed?

CNN leave west bank as people shout "fuck CNN" at them
https://streamable.com/srs29u
- would be fun to ask them if they are wearing helmets because they know Israel shoots at journalists
- (were you intending to post this in the news megathread?)
  
  Shit, yes. Messed my tabs up again.
- So uncivil! 😤

Gone private
- https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1714984258358391057

What a surprise. A genocidal country did genocidal shit. Even Hasan was talki g about how the blast crater was small so maybe it wasn't Israel but I guess he isn't some random loser online and has to be more balanced in what he says

uhh this article is a little light on details
- The video is where most of the meat is.

Dumb question time, for all of the explosions shown in their video footage, not just at the hospital, nome show rockets in the air first. They be going to fast to be seen?
- Not clear what the munitions were, but many types are guided bombs or shells, which don't have any propellant of their own, just fins for aerodynamic control.

Very definitive video

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