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Pet peeve, games that won't let you save

I wish all games would just let you save whenever you want to! Why is using checkpoints and auto saves so common?

At least add a quit and save option if you want to avoid save scumming.

These days I just want to be able to squeeze in some gaming whenever I can even if it's just quick sessions. That's annoyingly hard in games that won't let you save.

I wonder what the reason for this is?

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  • Dude, I remember people going OFF on Returnal not offering any saves and people having to keep their consoles in rest mode for days at an end because they wouldn't want their runs to end. I kept arguing with people on rexxit that any respectable rogue-lite/-like has a save function - STS, Hades, Dead Cells - yet they still kept arguing that implenting saves would "ruin the vision of the game" and "make it too easy".

    Guess what Housemarque did: they added a save on exit option. You can now suspend your run and finish it whenever. Not having to potentially brick your console just because you can't save mid-game sure is a boon lol. The game sure got a lot easier with this implemented. /s

    • STS does allow you to cheese the game with its save system, which is why most roguelikes also delete the save file after they load it, only saving the game when you need to put a bookmark in it to come back later.

      • Oh no, some cheated in a single player game!

      • It certainly helped me during my first Slay the Spire runs, when I'd often mess up the order of the cards (the most common being applying vulnerable AFTER doing all of my attacks).

      • Fair, not the best example

  • I hate when folks ask for this and assholes say "people will just use this to save scum, don't cheat." As if working adults with children should be able to dedicate a whole hour totally uninterrupted.

    • Also, who cares? It's your game; play it however you like. I mean, isn't the whole reason why people play video games is to have fun? If save scumming is your idea of fun, I say scum away.

      • The problem being that a lot of people don't actually know what it is that will make them happy. Winning is good, right? Yeah, but not if it's too easy. Being to save the game state at any point makes a lot of games much too easy to be any fun. And while you might argue "well just don't save all the time," people are also bad at creating their own handicaps to increase fun.

        Yes, there are exceptions to every generalization (see: OSRS Ultimate Ironman) but by and large there's a reason why the most popular kind of games are set up the way they are.

        You ever play Monopoly Go? Straight-up not fun because it's basically impossible to lose.

    • Pretty much this. And if they're worried about that just make it so you can only save and quit?

  • Back in the day of 8/16bit computers we had the solution for this. The action replay cartridge. Could save the exact machine state at any time.

    • Save states would be nice. Just dump the game's data from ram to disk.

      That would probably take up a ton of space though. :)

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