shithole country

"Assist" is doing some heavy lifting there...

I keep seeing people talking about the Marines and the National Guard being deployed, and this is certainly egregious and the blame for it rests squarely on Trump's head... But I have not seen many people mention that the LAPD are not being deployed by Trump. They are being deployed by Californian Politicians, and from the livestreams and videos I've seen, the police are the ones shooting LTL rounds and flahsbangs at civilians and reporters. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the police response has been unacceptably violent, national guard or not. It is the violence from the police that has historically, and will in this instance as well escalate the situation.

I think LAPD are essentially their own political institution, barely accountable to civilian or elected leadership

Trump left his tinydick phylactery in Los Angeles and sent the people who would have been correctly convicted at the Nuremberg Trials to try to find it, but he has to keep sending more because it is so small.

Assist with WHAT?

Occupation.
- Correct answer. The fascists in charge want to do to California what Israel is doing to Gaza.
Not American and maybe I'm just OOTL but this confuses me as well... I'm aware of a peaceful protest against the mass deportations, but what else? Why do they need armed soldiers??
- To prove empirically that he is a king and the constitution is dissolved.
- We don't. This is all for Trump to wave his dick around

They should refuse the orders and arrest Trump and everyone else involved in this shit. Which includes a lot of the administration.

Traitor president.

The sooner Americans learn to accept this is the historical event currently unfolding, the sooner we can take care of him and his enablers.

Trump is a traitor.

The president deploying the national guard, let alone the fucking MARINES, to “assist police” is a direct violation of the posse comitatus act, which was written to SPECIFICALLY PREVENT ANY PRESIDENT from using the military as law enforcement

Trump has been using the Constitution as toilet paper with zero consequences. Why do you think he cares about this?
- We know who is really behind this stuff: Russell Vought.
  The remaining question is: how to make it look like a suicide?
The "police" are already illegally supporting ICE in their sanctuary city.
Pigs are always class traitors
Doesn't matter if it's illegal, if there's no consequences
- This is what so many people fail to understand.
  When your boss steals $100 from your paycheck, you're supposed to file a wage claim, wait years for your day in court, and even when you show that the company stole from you, the punishment for them is a small fine ($50 per person first time, $100 per person every time after that). You don't even get the fine. The fine is paid to the state.
  Now flip it around and imagine what happens when you steal $100 from the company. Immediate legal repercussions, multiple court dates, probation if you're lucky and jail if you're not.
  The entire system is designed to fuck people as hard as possible while reserving the kid gloves for corporations and oligarchs.
  I am gleefully awaiting the day protesters start disappearing federal agents/national guard. Fuck all fascists, even the ones "just following orders". No habeas corpus is a two way street motherfuckers
- Well, it actually does matter this time around. I think this is going to come back to Trump if we make it through long enough. California doesn't fuck around.

Every military and law enforcement member needs to understand right now that attacking protesters for exercising their First Amendment rights is crossing a line that they can never come back from. I, for one, will always hold it against any MAGA for the rest of my life. They deserve to be mercilessly shunned, ridiculed, and discriminated against for the rest of their miserable, stupid, treasonous lives. I own a business, and I will never hire a MAGA supporter, ever.

I'll add to this do not go on vacation to any red state. Do not buy goods from red states whenever possible

This took less than 3 days.

Less than 3 days of mild protest in one city and Trump is saying the governor needs to be arrested and is using the military against civilians.

This wasn’t even classed as a riot.

In one neighborhood of that city.
This weekend is the totally not celebrating the rapist in chief's birthday military parade.
There are... a LOT of concerns that is just an excuse to militarize DC ahead of midterms.
But yeah. That also means trump wants protests to go away NOW and an excuse to attack California always makes him happy.
- Hasn't there been national guard, and a literal wall around the white house for the last decade?
That's because it was nothing on Saturday. Trump sends in the National Guard and they make a lot of smoke. There were 3 or so waymo fires and some cop cars damaged. Protesters were hit by rubber bullets a lot though.
See for yourself.
Saturdays Live Streams:
NBCLA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5MfqiO3QQk
ABC7- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdPTnHNEUiE
Sunday's Live Streams:
AP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXT945ZJNCI
Reuters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSNMZEjRBsk
Agenda-Free TV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BrsI2vVHKA
AXN News (?) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmwdCmOkdQ

The Silver Lining: Media coverage of the extensive protests in every city in America has been so light, that some people are asking why nobody is doing anything. Meanwhile Millions of people are protesting across America. Some protests have been higher than 5 million nationally, and they are growing. At 12 million, we reach 3.5%, which experts say is the threshold for a "tipping point," which leads to trends like revolutions.

But since the media isn't covering it, most people have no idea how much is happening. That is, until HitlerPig and The MAGA Morons hit the stage and start puking all over everybody. THAT makes the news, and now EVERYBODY knows about the protests.

Somebody should explain the Streisand Effect to these jokers.

That's really interesting, where did you read about that tipping point. I'd love to know more if you have a recommendation.
- Two books:
  Mark Penn's Microtrends: The Small Forces Behind Tomorrow's Big Changes
  Malcolm Gladwell's Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference
  I especially like Gladwell's book, and his other books as well. Blink is another favorite of mine. I haven't read Penn's book in a long time, it may be getting a little dated.
No, someone should definitely not explain it to them, lol.

Article 4 of the Constitution, they can’t take your house to do anything.

Seems the Constitution has been suspended.
- All but the 2nd amendment, maybe 14th too

Officially using the military against civilians. Yup we're cooked

Don't worry. All the heroic men and women in the armed services will decide THIS oppression of a civilian populace is too much and some of the officers will resign. Then, in just a decade or so, they'll have O-5s who are only qualified to be O-3s and it will all come crashing down! And if you disagree, you are just a doomer!
Yeah... This does not end well in any conceivable way.
There are several historical examples where a dictator tells the military to shoot civilians, they say no, and the regime collapses.
https://bsky.app/profile/gowder.io/post/3lr3wsvffds2l
- The world is also filled with governments that ordered the military to shoot civilians and are still comfortably in power. No country is immune to authoritarianism, the US is not exceptional.
- part of the problem is this absurdly naive optimism everyone has. people need to start being more fucking pessemistic and angry.

ILLEGAL.

as if it even matters.

Congress could end this immediately, by revoking Trump's emergency powers. Spineless traitors the whole lot of them.

What emergency?
- Well, there's like 40 he's declared to choose from, but specifically rescinding the Southern Border Emergency enacted on day one. These unprecedented circumstances provide him the ability to deploy military against civilians.
  Edit- Adding an NYT article with better overview

Did Trump declare martial law while I was asleep? Because last time I checked, he can't deploy the military on US soil unless the country is in a state of emergency. And peaceful protests don't count.

since when does it matter what the law says? he's been breaking the law every single day since he took office. nobody is gonna intervene.
- Almost everything Trump has attempted to do, has to some extent, been blocked in the courts. Sometimes temporarily...other times completely. And the temporary blocks are all still active cases, that stand a good chance of getting permanently blocked in the future.
  The problem is, the media isn't covering that enough. They like the drama...so, all they report in is the shit that gets clicks. And boring court details don't attract a lot of interest. Especially considering that by the time anything is resolved, the news steam has long since moved on to other, more recent scandals.
Until one of the other branches of government decides to grow a spine, Trump is free to do whatever he wants.
- Or the people.
he doesn't need to apparently.
- Well, he IS the king of America (and Canada, Panama and Greenland), so why would he need approval?
I don't condone deploying the military, its illegal, but burning waymo's isn't peaceful.
- Waymo's are ultimately used for surveillance to intimidate protesters. Ideally they wouldn't get burned, but at this point they have chosen to side with authoritarians (tho that is expected of corporations)
- The people setting those fires should absolutely be charged for their actions. But their actions don't negate the Constitutional rights of everyone else who is protesting. And calling in the National guard before the local authorities have declared the situation to be out of their control, is a direct violation of Constitutional law.
- Impressive how the troll farms always manage to put one “yeah people were hurt but what about property?!” in every thread about our pigs.

Plot twist: they round up ice and throw them in the brig

Only if they were actually serious about their oaths.
You tease!

Everyone, go to your local retailer that sells crayons and get a variety of colors from different manufacturers. You never know what flavor or brand they will want so it's best to have a spread. You can use that to barter or as a lure.

I understand Crayola is usually the preferred brand amongst marines.
- BAH is not high enough to afford Crayola
- Don't cheap out on our military!!
Bring some lube, too. Not all Marines prefer to consume them orally.

Kinda seems like the US has gone to war with her citizens: what with the deploying of troops against them and all. Maybe her citizens should start acting like they are at war.

Too bad there are no cases in history of a guerrilla force standing their own against the "undefeated" US military. /s

us citizens are too fucking stupid to do anything truly substantial about it.
- California didn't accidentally become wealthy. Lots of smart & capable people there, albeit with much to lose.
  They'll reasonably try to keep a lid on things, but there's a line not too far from where Californians have currently gotten pushed to.
- Well, I recently bought two guns and tons of ammo in preparation.
  So have a few friends of mine in the last few months. And I know we aren't the only ones.
  If this administration wants a war, they'll get it, but they will not win.

RIP America July 1776-June 2025.

249 years. Almost right on the fucking dot for the 250 year lifespan of every empire!
meh, it died last november when US citizens decided to elect a felon back into the white house for a second term after he had committed treason in broad daylight and obstructed justice throughout his tenure.

"I was just following orders."

So this is what freedom looks like? Where are all the 2nd Amendment fanboys when they’re needed? Probably sitting in the parents basement surfing the net for manga.

Where are all the 2nd Amendment fanboys when they’re needed?
Siding with the cops and looking for a Target they can protect while shooting some n***ers.
Karl from InrangeTV is probably one of the only genuinely honest Second Amendment supporters out there and he summed it up pretty well (in his video on how Palantir/Doge is all about surveilance and The Government is already coming for people): The vast majority of gun nuts (youtube or otherwise) are silent because they align with what is happening.
2nd Amendment fanboys
That was just cosplay.
Where the actual fuck are all the active duty military personnel who all swore an oath to defend the constitution from all threats, foreign and domestic? They are literally oath-bound to engage Donald Trump the same way they do any other enemy of the United States.
Do your fucking job already!
Ah yes, why won’t someone else come to save us?
- Collectively, you voted for this fascist. As a non-USian, I’ll just grab my popcorn and watch the drama unfold. Very similar to watching the Brexit debacle here in Europe.

Isn't there a law against this? Not that Cheetoface cares about those...

Somehow the criminal pedophile rapist doesn't care about the law. Maybe if they vote for him the third time he will keep his promises

Not American so could be wrong, but there's a law that they can't do police services unless activated by the state not the president so that will be interesting

# The Posse Comitatus Act

Assist with what, motherfucker? Continuing denial of due process rights?

Posse Comitatus:

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/posse-comitatus-act-explained

What does the Posse Comitatus Act say?

The Posse Comitatus Act consists of just one sentence: “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

In practice, this means that members of the military who are subject to the law may not participate in civilian law enforcement unless doing so is expressly authorized by a statute or the Constitution.

Is it a nitpick to say since the posse comitatus mentions the army and air force, but not the navy, it doesn't apply to the marines? I have no clue, I just know the US are very literal with their laws.
These are California marines, could the state of California prosecute them?
- Not for a federal crime, no. Same reason that state police can't enforce immigration laws.

Key Headlines
18 minutes ago - 700 Marines ordered to assist in Los Angeles
8:01 AM PDT - Newsom plans lawsuit against Trump administration over deployment of National Guard
12:34 AM PDT - 29 arrested Sunday as protests intensify in downtown LA
Jun 08, 2025, 9:06 PM PDT - Small fire erupts behind LAPD skirmish line during immigration protests
Jun 08, 2025, 9:05 PM PDT - LAPD chief denies ICE director's claim of 2-hour response time during protest
Jun 08, 2025, 7:46 PM PDT - Bass criticizes Trump over National Guard deployment, says violence will not be tolerated
Jun 08, 2025, 6:11 PM PDT - Anti-ICE protesters set Waymo vehicles on fire in downtown LA
Jun 08, 2025, 4:54 PM PDT - Newsom calls for Trump to rescind order deploying National Guard troops in LA
Jun 08, 2025, 3:56 PM PDT - 101 Freeway closed in downtown LA amid confrontation between protesters, police

Image of Headlines:

700 Marines ordered to assist in Los Angeles

A U.S. official confirmed 700 Marines from Twentynine Palms, California, have been ordered to assist in Los Angeles. They are expected to arrive over the next 24 hours.

The Marines are from the 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines at Twentynine Palms, California, whom U.S. Northern Command had said Sunday were on a "prepared to deploy status" if the Defense Department needed them.

They will join 300 California National Guardsmen who are on Title 10 federalized active duty status in California. Those National Guardsmen were mobilized by Trump through Title 10 authorities and are under the command of U.S. Northern Command.

"We'll see what happens. I mean, I think we have it very well under control. I think it would have been a very bad situation. It was heading in the wrong direction. It's now heading in the right direction," President Donald Trump told ABC News' Karen Travers.

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Which they are not allowed to do.

Did he suspend the Posse Comitatus Act and no one reported it?

does he even know it exists.

Piece of shit traitor. America will swallow him whole when this is over.

I really wish that the bad guys always get what they deserve. Reality tells another story though.

what stops a member of the armed services from denying a command or order if it is unlawful? what about if it may be unlawful? (ie needs to be proven as such but “right now” just smells unlawful?)

Call 1-877-447-4487
https://girightshotline.org/
They can help.
Officially the guidance is to comply but document and raise the question after...
Unofficially if you refuse and make it clear you're taking the court martial and chain of command folds.
With this situation the real question is if they standby and watch ICE/cops abuse citizens, or if they interject and stop the violent side.
The military has much higher standards on what acceptable.
- yeah makes sense. i think after the drama from the massacres in vietnam they must have tried to pivot and change tactics in those regards.
Indoctrination/brainwashing.
The official stance is that they SHOULD ask questions and point out their objections... to their superiors. Who will, in turn, raise their own questions. Until it gets to a lifer who doesn't give a fuck and just wants to burn a family to death so that they can take credit for a successful mission and maybe get promoted in a few years.
But, in the meantime? It doesn't matter if you support The Mission. Hell, your NCO doesn't either. But what matters is that you want to protect the men and women, but mostly men (because women are for raping back at base), in the foxhole next to you. So go get the gas can and follow some orders.

Right... Because you need 700 highly trained military personnel to deal with civilians.

That is in contrast with untrained cops having fucking tanks in their disposal though. I don't argue your point, but it just sounds like some sort of a societal sadomasochism.

Cool and normal! 😬

I hope their always faithful to their country, not their dictator

You had three homonyms in your sentence and took the bold strategy of using the same spelling for all of them but got it right twice.
66%, still passing.
- Huh. I always thought homonyms need to both sound the same (homophone) and spelt the same (homograph). But a quick search showed they could be either.
  My whole life has been a lie.

This makes sense because establishing a beachhead on Iwo Jima and managing a rowdy crowd are similar skills

From what I've heard about the high integrity of the U.S. Marines, I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the civilian side of the line.

Where have you heard this? We have marines constantly getting caught drinking and driving, breaking and entering, smuggling drugs, and even raping women here in Okinawa. I get called by the prosecutor's office almost on a weekly basis to interpret for these guys.
- On top of that many cops are former marines and could be in the national guard being called in.
Lmfao dude thats propaganda, the marines are teenagers who've had "loyalty above everything" kicked into their heads since they joined up. At best they just stand around and don't do anything, but take it from a former marine, that situation is unlikely.
- This response hit home. Thank you! Hopefully things remain peaceful.
It depends. One of the things you want to do as a dictator is to bring in units from distant areas, because the local ones will see the people as their neighbors. Trump made that mistake, so I doubt the Cal Guard is going to do anything. The Marines are from Twentynine Palms, but they could be from anywhere originally.
Protestors should start bringing packs of Crayola to lure them across the line.
- Or just start throwing crayons at the Marines, I'll bet the dress blues in my closet they'll laugh at that.
LOL!

I don’t understand why these protests so often end up with people destroying cars and shop windows - and then, in many cases, looting as well. Whatever legitimate cause you may have had loses credibility pretty quickly after that, and it becomes hard to sympathize with the protesters, let alone criticize the riot police for stepping in. A cynic might say that some are just looking for an excuse to cause havoc.

Not all the protestors are involved in criminal activity. The news is constantly reporting that 95% of the crowd is peacefully exercising their right to protest, but a small minority of people use the situation to their advantage and cause chaos. The media then reports on these (accurate) instances of violence and then right wing talking heads run away with that and paint the picture that everyone is looting and rioting and attacking cops.
It's also a known tactic to have provocateurs incite a riot so that the people in power can use it as an excuse to crack down on an otherwise legitimate protest.
Because people don't suddenly develop a hivemind when engaging in a protest. You get a large group of people together and the likelihood that at least one of them is a shithead quickly hits 100%. Add in agent provocateurs and you get situations like this.
- A large group of people trying to have a peaceful protest could easily stop a few individuals who start smashing things. But from the looks of it, the reaction often seems to be the opposite - people applaud it or even join in. Even here in the replies, there’s someone excusing it with “who cares about Google,” and another one justifying the looting of ampm so apparently, in their mind, it’s not a problem. The fact that this exact same tactic is used by the aforementioned agent provocateurs should only further encourage self-policing within these protests.
It's a case of a few opportunists ruining it for the many. As with football celebrations, street parties, or anything. It's a damn shame that their greed ruins the legitimacy of protesting though
Waymo is owned by Google. Who cares?
Looting small businesses will always be fucked. Haven't seen that yet with these protests.
- I have seen people looting an AM/PM in one of the live feeds of what's going on. But it didn't look like they were actual protestors, either. Just people taking advantage of the situation. Plus it's AM/PM; you know how much good stuff they have? Too much! They're just helping them get down to a reasonable amount of good stuff.
- Who cares?
  The people outside your bubble.
I mean, many don't. I'm not even sure there was any mention of property damage except to police/Ice vehicles/equipment prior to the police escalation.
However now they they've escalated and brought in the national guard, started shooting and tear gassing people, and more it seems things have escalated.
The real question is - "if these communities are protecting these people so fiercely, where is the mandate to deport them with such force?"