Bait or r*tar*ation. Call it.

Genuinely a retard and yes that is the correct word and stop trying to police it.

Don't forget completely mismanaging Twitter, and turning it into even more of a cesspool.

I wonder if the trump cult also now hates him after saying he was the goat for the last 6 months.

He already has fuck you money so he doesn't give any fucks.

Are you serious? He wants people to think he’s cool SO bad it’s genuinely so pathetic lol. All the other billionaires you could say that. But Elon is so desperate for people to think he’s this funny cool based guy it’s hilarious
- That is partly true, but also he's a strong narcissist. They make up their own stories. They'll play up the feud to take eyes off of other bad shit.
  Don't think for a second he lost or he's gone or it's all over for him. He doesn't see it that way.
His very low self esteem shows otherwise.
For now, he does have that yes, but his wealth is for a significant portion a house of cards built on the value of tesla stock. If the value of that stock falls far enough, lenders who gave him loans with tesla stock as collateral could margin call him, essentially asking for more collateral. That could make him the poorest person in the world quite quickly, i.e. billions in debt.
- While you're absolutely correct, even if Musk lost 99.7% percent of his wealth he would still be a billionaire (depending on whose net worth number you choose to use). I wouldn't hold out seeing him in a bread line or starting a gofundme.

None of them are geniuses, it's just really hard to lose at capitalism when you have capital.

Its a human blind spot. A lot of people confuse wealth for intelligence. In lower socio-economic levels, succeeding involves a lot of intelligence. Its a fucking struggle. Lots of fish trying to eat each other and take what little resources we have. One fuck up and it's all over. So anyone that is succeeding is also someone that with enough intelligence to foresee pitfalls and avoid them or escape with their wealth.
Those values are used to evaluate the people at the top which are swimming in a whole different pond. The neopotism and safety nets built into the upper crust of society is not part of the calculation that a lot of people use to factor into how they see these people. They still apply the same dog eat dog mentality to the upper crust of society.
- honestly wealth at any level requires luck… intelligence barely factors into it. it’s less that 1 fuck up and it’s all over, and more that 1 fuck up without someone to cover it up or bail you out and it’s all over… the wealthier you are, the bigger the fuck up before you or someone else can bail you out:
  poor? it’s an unexpected car issue
  rich? it’s that you fucked over literally an entire country for years on end in a very public way that gained you very little
- A lot of people confuse wealth for intelligence.
  Smart people who make good products that people want will have the invisible hand distribute them wealth. Dumb people who make bad products that no one wants will go backrupt. This is the core philosophy behind why capitalism "works." It is a system that conflates wealth with virtue, by design.
  You're right to point out that it is incorrect logic, but no one is confusing anything. The entirety of our Western world is build around this idea and reinforces it to its people at every single opportunity. They're making the judgements that they have been told are correct. Can we really say people are confused when they're confidently acting exactly as they've been taught from birth?
But Musk wants to be a trailblazer and prove that you can lose at anything.
I like the way you put it
Look I don't like Musk either but even starting off wealthy becoming the richest man in the world takes some doing. He was way ahead of the curve on reusable rockets and EVs and succeed there where a bunch of people failed. I think where he fails is when it comes to protecting his image and maintaining relationships. He's a thin-skinned narcissist who thinks he's humanity's savoir and eventually that got to him.
- That...and developing some serious drug habits in recent years

Next stop: Build an underwater city.

Hey, you need a taxi?
- I wish more billionaires would get on those... and visit WW1 era military shipwrecks...
I'll donate my Playstation controllers for his scouting sub.
Would you kindly....?

The thing is, this turd burgler could lose millions a day for the rest of his life and still retire more well-off than just about anybody. When's the last time a truly filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?

Mark Bankstone could help him do it
filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?
there’s not much that i like about the american healthcare system but the idea of fElon eventually ending up bankrupt because of that fucking black eye really had me thinking “maybe there’s something to this”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG8wSHKJ0C0

Hard crash on the businesses, he sells whatever he has that's worth good money (other, not his, companies stock) and buys a bunch of the destroyed stock. Promises to cede control, but continue funding. Tesla rebrands, becomes affordable and consumer friendly.

I mean, there's no way he would let all that happen. But he's still sitting on an absolutely massive pile of money. If he had the balls to pull the rip cord he could sit right where he is for the rest of his life. He just doesn't have it in him.

If I had fuck you money I'd buy Mount Everest, use my boring company to build a fucking subway railcar tunnel escalator thing. And then build an evil lair on top of my Everest. Fill a moat with lava or some shit, and then never see people again.
Id hollow out the mountain enough for artificial farms and then pay the local community filthy amounts of money to produce my food for me.
Oh. And also, 20 million to whoever can make proton work 100% on ARM64 or create a compatibility layer for x86/64 for ARM.
- or create a compatibility layer for x86/64 for ARM.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(software)
- You were so close to becoming a super villain
  So much wasted potential

5d chess or not, hear me out.

He may be autistic enough to burn it all down from the inside.

It's not fucking autism it's the fact he's a perpetually kholed dickhead
- It's always autism
- k-hole'd
  For any confused readers.
why are we still using autistic as an insult in 2025?
he may be moronic enough to burn it all down from the inside, but autism doesn't have shit to do with it. I'm tired of people trying to use autism as an get out of jail free card for utter stupidity. autism has very little to do with intelligence levels, and even if it does, it's the other way around according to most studies.
- Why??
  Cause it's not so much an insult as a funny stereotype. And there's partial truth to it. Autistic people sit outside cultural norms. I don't find anything about that insulting. Especially in a world where the culture has become so toxic. Having a billionaire who is potentially taking Roy of the grid is a huge fantasy of mine and it's potentially happening. Only an autistic person is able to do this. No one else can.
- Have you looked up the history of the word "moron"?

Ket is magic

That was my thought. I've never tried ketamine, but watching this clown dance through crises that would destroy a normal person makes me tempted to experiment.

He is secretly a shareholder in BYD and shorting Tesla. Nothing else makes sense.

Are people that stupid to overvalue Tesla that much for years or is somebody stabilizing the market rate? Somebody is playing 5D chess but it is not Musk.

It's because so many institutional investors own Tesla stock. Most of the big hedge funds and that kind of thing. At least that's what I've heard, but it makes sense to me.

I had to look it up. Pajeet is a racial slur in SE Asia, apparently.

Not the point.
Sometimes Internet racism really confuses me. So Indians are in this case bad because they are.... particularly likely to be Musk stans? Forgiving of rich people who fall from grace? Just generally not hateful people? I don't get it.
Leave it to 4chan to import all the slurs from around the world
- Perhaps even less surprising, this particular racial slur apparently came from 4chan.
- Is it actually a slur, or just a stereotypical sounding name? Because if its the second isn't it just like Barry eating his 3rd pie and chips of the afternoon with a pint of wife beater?
You mean S Asia? India isn't exactly east...

Musk learned the hard way why other billionaires don't get directly involved in politics, and buy politicians instead. That way they get what they want, but let the politicians take the heat for pushing through the billionaires agendas.

The problem for Musk is that his ego wouldn't allow him to sit quietly on the sidelines calling the shots. He had to prove how smart he was, and how he was the only one who could fix the government. Now, he's pissed off almost everyone, has lost various large foreign contracts for his companies, drove sales of Tesla into the ground, and is watching Trump undo the "brilliant" governmental cost cutting that he did.

And, his ego still won't let it go, as now he's suggested he'll start his own political party. You just know the other billionaires are looking at him and going "What a dumbass!"

And still some dumb Americans will think:
"Billionnaires got a lot of wealth, so they must know what they're doing. Let them fix it."
When the actual answer is:
"Billionnaires never once worked as much as we did. They got born with a fuckton of money. Let them eat cake."

He's not stupid, only suffers from drug induced dementia

but also he's stupid
- I always assumed he was a moderately intelligent tech CEO until I saw a clip a few years ago where he was showing off the evolution of Starlink rockets and he referred to the piping and whatnot on the outside of the rockets as "the fiddly bits".
  Unrelated, but he was also wearing a t-shirt that highlighted his noodle arms and his man boobs. You would think that somebody vain enough to get hair implants and plastic surgery would have enough sense to at least dress in a flattering manner.
- He used to be stupid. He still is, but he used to be, too.
- "He was also stupid" - Ron Howard.

Nobody has done more to disprove the "Rich people are smarter than everyone else" idea.

Luigi?
Remember a decade ago when he was being lauded as our time's Einstein?
........ Hahahahahahaha
- Yeah by his own PR team, mostly, but it was a pretty easy fascade to see through when you actually listened to the man speak. Still don't forgive Dan Harmon for letting him shit on R&M with the eLoN tUsK bullshit. Or Star Trek Discovery for that matter, which happened much later after he had already shown his true face to the world. I know Harmon got paid because he's talked about it, but I would really like to know how much he spent on getting a passing reference in the least popular ST show of all time.
- And I am proud to have called bullshit on it from day one.
  Whoever leads us to the promised land isn't going to have a for profit LLC
- I've heard Tony Stark but not Einstein. I'd be insulted for Einstein.
- I still cringe at him being mentioned in Star Trek Discovery...
Literally had someone saying that earlier today. Something along the lines of "you don't become the richest person in the world without some competency." Just ignore the fact he started on third base...
- Not even. He started on home, he just claimed he ran there and for some reason people believed him even though he still had a bat in his hand.
  Elon has had "Penisdick" written all over him since day one
- I mean, yeah he had a lot of advantage, but he did have to do something right to become the richest man. But making some good gambles doesn't make you a good person nor does it mean you're great at everything.
  Maybe he was good at finding companies at the right time to invest, but that means jack about any economic or political acumen. Same reason why we don't want businessmen in politics, being good at one thing does not mean you're good at everything.
- I don't know exactly how much his parents were worth, but his net worth has increased by many thousands of times. That's not "third base", saying he got where he is by luck and nepotism is just wilfully ignorant.
  Trump, on the other hand, would have done better if he just left his money in a savings account.
I genuinely think he's had some sort of cognitive decline.
He went from being merely wealthy to the richest man in the world, and nearly everyone thinking he's a genius, to being hated by nearly everyone and losing money fast.
- Think is, he never was a genius - actually quite far off from it
  He is just a spoiled boy having luck with gambling the money he got
- Generally the truly smartest people (the ones who actually figure out spaceflight, electric vehicles, satellite internet) aren't the wealthiest. Sure many of them end up pretty wealthy due to stock options, high salaries, companies competing for them and the like. But often at the end of the day they just retire into their wealth and spend their days traveling or living in their huge houses or whatever.
  But the CEOs, the politicians, the investors, the self-labelled "Founders," those approaching or in the 1%; For those it's not about making something, doing their jobs, changing the world, etc. It's about winning. They need to feel better than others. And for most of them that feeling never goes away. They rarely retire, and often even when they do they still pull strings from the background (see Bill Gates). Some psychopathic part of their brain makes it so their most important and purest drive is to constantly get to that next target, that next exponential stock valuation, that next acquisition, that next news broadcast they can jerk off to about how they beat someone else in a campaign or about how line go up or whatever.
  So when these people are in the middle of their career, they're relatively unnoticeable by most. They're "founding" companies by employing those smarter than them with money they have. They're selling said companies, moving on. They're making shady deals, laundering money, because they are smart enough to beat the system and the system is against them because they're so smart.
  But for those that amass enough wealth like Elon, the drive never goes away. But what do you do after you're the richest person in the world? Well, try to become the most powerful person in the world. But you can't just run for office, the ketamine has told you that it's faster to latch onto the recent rapid rise in fascism so you join up with Trump. Who gives a shit what kind of person he is, especially because eventually you'll beat him. He's a stepping stone for now, a boost pad to get you speaking with those who can get you real power, and more money because it's never enough.
  But thinking that everything in the world works like a startup, and if you just hire more college grads, crack the whip, take stimulants to stay up to ship the product in a completely inconceivable world (government and social policy) to what you're used to (technology and product development), it all falls apart. And then when you've always had success with the investors siding with you because "line go up," you suddenly don't have success because "line don't go up" in the white house and Trump is getting pressure to find something to cover up giving 2 trillion dollars to the rich and there's no quick fix.
  So you do more ketamine, lash out. You always knew trump was a pedo, a garbage human, but it didn't matter because he was a stepping stone, so now, probably earlier than you'd like, you pull out your cards of putting him down in the hopes that you can get that power that you need because the money doesn't matter now, feeling that you beat him is what's most important.
- Looks more like too much Ketamine to me.
- And lots of drugs & yes-men.
- yeah that much power and money certainly does something to your brain, the guy can't think straight anymore
Seriously? I thought Edison at best, but Einstein? What did this shithead discover, exactly?
Edit: whoops wrong comment to reply.
So he’s a hero after all?
- the one we didn't need but deserve

Somehow nobody has mentioned the drugs? And obvious signs of mental illness? Obviously high functioning, but that does not make the decisions less nuts.

Has anybody seen the Johnny Harris video on musk? It was all fun and games until the drugs came out to play.

Peter Thiel also does a shit ton of drugs and you don't see him spiralling this hard
- I'm convinced that Thiel is spared this fate solely by his homosexuality and shame in it. He understands the value of keeping some things close to the chest and the risks of being the face of anything. He just came to it in a sad and fucked up way.
  Comparatively, Musk thinks himself a glorious hero who should be the face of everything.
  Thiel rarely puts himself in any spotlight unless he's either curated it, or drugged up, freaked out, and kinda losing it.

Even if he loses hundreds of billions of dollars he's still richer than like 99% of individual people worldwide will ever be.

I will save the schadenfreude for when he pays for the deaths of men, women, and children who were denied care from the USAID funds being cut.

He won't though because although what he did is immoral it wasn't illegal. After all the president of the United States authorised these actions they must be legal.
Financially he's going to suffer but there's nothing in law that can be done to him.
- We've both seen how quickly the legislative landscape can change, let's not write this loss off just yet.

He collected data on all Americans from multiple government agencies, successfully killed multiple investigations into several of his companies, and secured additional government contracts for those companies. Is that what we're calling nothing these days?

And Trump is now threatening to cancel those government contracts. So he's blown everything he's gained (and then some) from his little fling with Trump.
- That's what trump does. He threatens. Then in the majority of times he gets distracted or backs down. Those contracts aren't cancelled until they are cancelled.
- TACO
- Even if we assume those contracts get canceled, unless they force him to destroy that data (which probably isn't possible at this point) and reopen all those investigations then that's not really true, is it?
He collected data on all Americans from multiple government agencies, successfully killed multiple investigations into several of his companies, and secured additional government contracts for those companies. Is that what we’re calling nothing these days?
But he also inflicted a lot of long-term damage upon himself and his businesses. So the question in the post still stands.
How will he benefit from the data he collected? He's not in advertising and even if he were a snapshot isn't worth much - you'd need an ongoing stream. Location data from teslas would be more valuable than the data could've stolen with doge.

It's 5D Narcissism :D

Yes, this. It may be drugs, it may be mental disorder, but what it CERTAINLY is is narcissism and megalomania.
Just like every Trump voter who never thought it would happen to THEM when tornado relief was denied or they were deported or their farm was on the brink of financial collapse thanks to tariffs, Musk seems to have thought he was safe? That HE could control Trump? I knew getting these two megalomaniacs together like this would go badly, I'm just impressed it lasted so long honestly.

i don't understand these figures

Lost $300,000,000 with Trump Losing billions more by the day

$300mil was about how much he paid to buy the election, he’s lost about $33bil in stock value of Tesla in the last few days due to the public sniping with Agent Krasnov
- Ah, that makes sense

*conservatives can't afford his cars

Had to correct it

The are no liberal billionaires and very few liberal millionaires
I have known rich conservatives. I used to work with one who had a Ford F-150 Raptor.
- Having an expensive vehicle doesn't mean you can afford it. You can probably make the payments, but you can only really afford the vehicle if you're keeping up with other financial goals.
  My coworker has two luxury cars, and he's in debt up to his eyeballs. He makes the same as me, his SO also works (mine doesn't), and he's always complaining about not having enough money, while we're doing just fine.

And so conveniently Russia just offered him asylum hahaha 🤣 and publicly 😂.

Just say "retard" if you're gonna say it. Lazily censoring it seems worse, because implications.

Right? I'm tired of the euphemism treadmill telling me what I can and can't say. Especially if we are coming up with childish phrases like "unalived"
I used to call myself a
<transgender slur>
until woke cispeople got on my case about it.
Ahh.. I guess it's better than the old internet where the N-Word was your fast pass to being seen as funny and cool?
- This has always felt very doublespeak-y to me. Sort of like a control mechanism.
  I don’t know anyone “unhoused” who has ever been offended at the word “homeless”. It just seems silly to me.
- I run into that shit with cripple.
  Fuck them, I'm the one on the fucking cane, I call myself what the fuck I want, and I will gladly fight about it.
  But, yeah, the edge lords will fuck things up
i assumed it was "rasterization"
Or go the TikTok route and say "unsmarted" like a goddamn tool.
I have a decent amount of patients that label could apply to and I don't like seeing it used at all. Literally just a few weeks ago I was consoling a patient who was angrily crying because they perceived someone had used it to refer to them. I'm unsure if it was reality based; they do hallucinate and I didn't personally witness it but its far from impossible and they were absolutely distraught. Using it pejoratively AND censoring it means you knew it was fucked up and did it anyway.

Do I even want to know what a pajeet is?

You probably don't.
I looked it up after not hearing the term before.
- It's actually a name. Pajeet is a genuine Hindu name. It's a pejorative, in the same way "Paddy" is both an Irish name and used as a slur for Irish people.
- Sadly I assumed correctly
- So is the implication that all Indians think Mush is a hero?
It's an Indian, from India. Not Native American.
Anti-South Asian/antisemitic 'Great Replacement' conspiracy theory term
- Antisemitic..? It's just a general racist term towards Indians
Racist word towards Indians

Off to Russia?

Russia just offered him asylum publicly so 🙄 Google it, it's all over the news.

Generational wealth leads to people who are both extremely rich and extremely stupid.

And Elon Musk is the best example of that in the history of mankind.

Centrist Dems will take him back and anoint him as the leader of the Resistance in a New York minute, if doing so will keep AOC on the margins.

Oh I fully expect the DNC to try to rehabilitate him

Has absolutely nothing to show for it

But is still the richest person in the world

Also he did manage to dismantle federal government, so no more oversight and regulations for corporations. That is a pretty huge win for oligarchs and a catastrophy for basically everybody else, which everybody seems to have forgotten about in the general avalanche of shitshows which has been occurring.
Which is the worst part of it. Being so rich you can do a royal, life ruining fuckup and still be on top.

Well.... there is that bit where his companies now have all of the data they were able to loot from the Federal departments he ruined.

5d chess. In the same way as putin plays it.

Why do you keep hitting yourself?

It's hilarious that 4D chess is now for dummies and we're on to 5D chess.

n-dimensional game of ur

He got lucky

His luck ran out

Unfortunately at the end of the day people like this will still be rich and not have to worry about the problems the rest of us do.

His companies go under, satellites fall from the sky.

Already falling.

5D chess, us mere mortals simply cant comprehend his immense genius

He’s an idiotic twat. Always has been. Just took 20 whatever years for everyone to stop slobbering his cock and realize it.

they are capitalists. they don’t “lose” money they just hedge in ways we do not yet know about. :/

Sad what drugs will do to a person.

Drugs did NOT do this to him. Bro has always been a psycho.
- Agreed, but the drugs certainly made it worse.
  Actually my theory is that ketamine + Twitter is the perfect storm of getting permanently sucked into an alt-right fantasy world.
They also used a very very old photo of him. He doesn't look like that anymore.
Exactly which drug makes you become a Nazi?
- Between him.and Jordan Peterson it looks like Ketamine
In this case, it's a waste of drugs.

hes slowly turning into a more stupid edward snowden both leaked gov documents an both ran away to russia the diff is snowden did it for freedom an elon did it because his boyfriend broke up with him

Why the **?

Lemmy's orwellian rules
- It breaks apps that properly format tho

Fuck you. Pajeet is a slur. You're just as bad a racist as Elon.

Have you never read a grentext before? Probably best to block the community then
- Didn't you know? Context doesn't matter, if that word hadn't been there racism would have stopped immediately. Tribalism, social sorting and human stupidity aren't the reasons for most of our problems.

Centrist democrats are already warming to him. Then again, they have been waiting for this moment ever since he performed his nazi salute.

Lol okay grandpa. Nobody is fucking "warming to him"
- Lol okay grandpa. Nobody is fucking “warming to him”
  Ok, whippersnapper. What's this, then?
  https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/05/elon-musk-democrats-donald-trump-00389961
  Now get off my lawn.
Makes sense considering Cory Booker did the same Nazi salute and he is a centrist democrat
- Got a video of that, buddy, where he hits his chest and then goes to a straight arm with no wave, twice?
- Please don't migrate to a new instance.
- Oh christ.