Tankies always have such *great* takes on international affairs

Doesn't it seem strange to you guys that you hear these exact same talking points from the Donald Trump people?

It's almost like all these nationalistic authoritarians have more in common with each other than with the rest of us...
With how far Trump is up up Putin's ass, not strange at all.
I think Putin's and Trump's agendas differ a bit. Putin is an irredentist megalomaniac that loves his past as a tool of KGB oppression and wishes it back, Trump is just an old, demented, tired-of-life racist.

I hate the 'the West prolongs the war by supplying weapons' take that I've also seen being uttered. Fuck right off, Russia prolongs the war each day they spend in Ukraine.

I somehow never hear anybody say that the allied countries prolonged WW2 by taking up arms against Germany. We even celebrate that fact each year. Mindboggling mental gymnastics on how we could do the same for another country, but now intervention is suddenly a bad thing.

- Yeah, Britain got exactly what it deserved during WWII.
The west has definitely prolonged the war, but only by being pansies about what weapons we supplied Ukraine and how they were allowed to use them
- Avoiding global nuclear annihilation is typically a good move.
The current tankie take to justify the war to avoid just accepting that Russia is conducting imperialism is that Ukraine is a Nazi country. That's it, no nuance, nothing. It's a Nazi country that needs to be liberated. No, you're not allowed to ask any follow up questions. You can get that straight from Cowbee along with 19 pages of bullshit . It's their current meta.
- Ive seen multible arguments on how commies never commited a single crime against humanity since everyone who is not a commie is a nazi.
"Doctors prolong the illness by providing medicine for an otherwise deadly disease."

You forgot “it’s not a war, it’s a special military operation!”

No no!! A 3 day special military operation.
- You have misunderstood, it's 3 years (https://sh.itjust.works/post/39338196), and soon 1 million russians hurt or dead, I wonder when the population will wake up.

"but Putin says the people living in those border regions are majority 'ethnic Russian' so invading is okay"

Stalin used a similar justification for invading Poland

Tankies are morons.

Some tankie argued me that the Crimean bridge bombings were unethical and illegal because is somehow "civilian infrarestructure" like WTF dude.

I distinctly remember the days just before the Russian invasion in a subreddit that is full of Russian bots. They were dismissing the potential Russian invasion as Western hysteria. And for once, I was inclined to agree because after the lies to invade Iraq, I was skeptical of CIA assessment. Moreover, it is utterly stupid to invade a group of people who historically hate their previous imperial masters. That's like Britain invading India and Ireland again and expecting the British to be welcomed in open arms.

But then the unthinkable actually happened-- Russia did invade. However, Ukrainians valiantly held themselves and embarrassed the Russians, and doing so to this day.

The Russian bots in the subreddit I mentioned have immediately gone quiet after the invasion and haven't posted for a couple of days. The anti-Kremlin posts during that time were not getting any push back. Like the actual Russian soldiers who were not informed that the invasion will actually happen, the bots and their handlers themselves were also surprised, and they were waiting for marching orders on what talking points to propagandise. The bots returned with precisely the talking points you just summarised. But at the same time with predictable pattern since then, Russian bots go quiet whenever Russia suffer embarrassing setbacks such as the Russian withdrawal from Kyiv, the 2022 Kharkov and Kherson liberation, Ukraine's invasion into Kursk, and now the destruction of Russia's fleet of bomber planes.

My favorite was when they were saying Ukraine was full of Nazis, so it's ok if they get invaded.

I heard the same type of bullshit on social media up to the January 6th insurrection.

They are so pro-Russian it's crazy. I dont get it, so they are basically like a US MAGA movement ... except they like Communist China and the Communist Russian party.

How'd my in-laws get on the internet?

There's tankies in my country who literally believe "South China Sea" belongs to Mainland China.

Gulf of America

Renowned tankie Joseph Robinette Biden (and other foreign policy experts) was warning already back in 97 that NATO expansion would lead to a violent Russian response. That's well before he went senile and was elected president. So maybe the third row of the picture should move to the top.

What nato expansion
- There's a Wikipedia page called NATO enlargement. You can also Google the Biden quote and see what he's referring to.

These are right wing Nazi statements, not tankies

Potato potato.
Indeed. Which is why it is so odd that the tankies are constantly uncritically regurgitating them.
Same shit, slightly different logo.

Who said any of this with any seriousness? Aside from the NATO point, I've heard that. But all the 'tankie' vs 'anti-tankie' posting to me is exhausting and continously strawmanning and a massive waste of energy. It's hard to see a single opinion that would be changed by these sorts of posts, it's only antagonism. So what is your goal for posting it?

Who said any of this with any seriousness?
Christ, do you not remember the build-up to the 2022 invasion?
But all the ‘tankie’ vs ‘anti-tankie’ posting to me is exhausting and continously strawmanning and a massive waste of energy.
"It's continuously strawmanning"
to point out the points literally paraded by tankies?
"and a massive waste of energy"
Not sure how much energy you think posting a meme takes up.
It’s hard to see a single opinion that would be changed by these sorts of posts, it’s only antagonism. So what is your goal for posting it?
Venting?
Public awareness? Since apparently there are an endless stream of people like you who are not aware of tankies saying shite like this?
I'm not trying to convince red fascists. That would be as futile as trying to convince any other fascist.
- Christ, do you not remember the build-up to the 2022 invasion?
  To be fair I don't remember the build up that well because my mom was dying.
  I'm saying it's strawmanning because I am on hexbear frequently that's called a tankie hive, I read .ml posts and comments which is called a tankie hive, I see users quoted that are called 'tankies' but rarely does anyone else even agree with them, being a small minority view if they say something like Russia or China can never do any bad. Or just entirely misunderstood. Things like homophobia and racism in countries like Russia are critiqued plenty even by people who think these countries are fighting against western imperialism.
  One meme isn't a lot of energy but it seems to take up a decent amount of space in your view, but to me it just seems a lot more rare than people that complain about it think.
totally common talking points from fans of Scott Ritter, Glen Greenwald, The Greyzone, George Galloway, Tim Pool, etc, they're all aligned on these points they get from their Kremlin sources.
Have you been to .ml at all?