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Trump says Canada would pay $61B for Golden Dome, but zero as ’51st state’

Trump says Canada would pay $61B for Golden Dome, but zero as ’51st state’ - National | Globalnews.ca

Donald Trump said Tuesday that Canada will have to pay US$61 billion to be part of his “Golden Dome” space-based missile defence plan — but would pay nothing if it becomes part of the U.S., a message he claimed to have “told Canada” himself.

The social media post came hours after King Charles III delivered the speech from the throne in Canada’s Parliament, which particularly focused on asserting Canada’s sovereignty and included plans for bolstering national defence.

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I’m pretty sure Canada doesn’t want Trump’s golden shower

He's genuinely a worse negotiator than kids.
I bet he has his hand backwards when playing poker, showing everyone else what he has, but not seeing what he has himself.

again with the mexico will pay for it bullshit, except with canada now
- Holy fucking shit you're right. Never looked at it like this. We're getting a second wall, aren't we? Fuck.
  
  For a second one you'd need a first one first

Also Canada will have to pay Trump $3.50 for a golden shower
- Really wishing he was just the loch ness monster at this point.

I'm glad Trump is finally fixing this problem. Every fucking day I get in my car to drive somewhere and there's a big pothole, the road is closed, or my destination was directly hit by an incoming missile. The worst are those unguided ones. They don't even know or care where they're going to land! The weak democrats are too busy using pronouns and protesting the border to even talk about the problem of the constant missile and rocket strikes entering our airspace and striking our land.
- And sometimes they hit you in the arm and you're suddenly vaccinated

Here's my wild theory:
The US has strategic planning. They decide that they need Canada or at least Greenland for security. They formulate a plan to destabilize the world a little near the north....they poke Putin since he has need messing with Ukraine. Meanwhile we choose Cheeto TACO. Well, not us, the electoral college. Cheeto goes bonkers at the complex plan and thinks countries are pussies so they let you grab them when you're famous. Cheeto goes to Greenland directly and explains the very secret need...we need Greenland for security so hand it over please, we'll pay you. As expected by any 3 year old, that fails. So he goes to Canada and fails again because Cheeto is unable to learn. And here we are revealing another section of the very secret plan...we would create a defense system to protect our selves from Putin if things got out of hand.
Had Cheeto not gone revealing secrets Canada may have become our new state and we all would be proud of it....like the Louisiana purchase. In a peaceful way. But Cheeto is... Deficit of thinking.... So he deflated that effort and here we are!
Let's take a look at how Cheeto would have handled the bay of pigs or D day or Hiroshima.... Hello Germany, yes I have exactly 23,000 men armed to the teeth who will attack on dday...a very secret date...if you don't stop your war. Please let them get off their boats, that's kind of a weakness in the design. But right after, we're good for a win!
Someone who can't control simple, yet important secrets for the success of a plan, should not be the president. This is again, all wild theories, I just woke up and I'm staring at the sealing just hoping that today Cheeto did not invade China or kidnapped the Mexican president as a way to make a deal on Sprite. As you know, soda cans keep getting more expensive and smaller!
- One of the defining cultural traits of our northern neighbors is that they ain't us. There's nothing that fills Canadians with more pride than not being Americans. They were never going to be a single state and they weren't even going to become 10 or 13.
  
  That's my other more plausible explanation... Cheeto is just mentally ill.
- And didn't take but a few scrolls:
  https://lemmy.today/post/30393382
  Cheeto pulls the plug on Bird flu vaccine.
  As a reminder, it took like 10 years to develop the covid vaccines. Researchers had identified that virus as a possible pandemic source a while back. I don't know all the details, just that we are lucky all those people had time to work on a vaccine. And more lucky because there was more than one team doing the same. The art of the deal is you prepare leverage so you can get the best bargain. Here Cheeto is undoing leverage and revealing it to the world. Now if a bird flu pandemic starts, all we have to do is just get into debt with another country who did prepare for the event. But I don't have to explain how stupid this move is.

the mafia used to be good friends with old school unions back in the day. they would help them create "forever projects" like subway systems that went nowhere, or roads that went nowhere, sewers and drainage systems that werent necessary. mainly to get money from government contracts that would keep everyone paid. usually by bribing or threatening officials to sign off on the contracts.
this is "forever project" for elon.
pointless. as satellites can be easily hacked by "bad actors" as china and russia have proven already, and with the advances in AI automated systems advancing every day, or even them succumbing to "poisoning" with misleading data. this will be, much like the wall, full of fucking holes. this is just another way for them to drain more money out of americans, while attempting to scare canada into giving up "the cookies" and enriching those contracted to build these projects. which will be of course, subpar, abd wont work as advertised, if it ever actually gets off the ground.
it is possible for ANYONE to mess with a satellite, with the right know how and equipment. you dont have to be a world super power to do it. russia and china have demonstrated that they can already target and deactivate satellites. i literally watched a guy on youtube demonstrate how to do it with scrapped dishes from ebay and DIY arrays. fucking anonymous has done it several times to russia already.
long story short. its fucking stupid and it will likely cost as much as they want it to. based on a more realistic metric than the one they provided, somewhere just shy of 1 trillion dollars. 850 + or - billion. i would not be surprised if somewhere down the line they would find the need to "upgrade the existing system" and give even more tax payer money to billionaires and contractors for more of these forever projects.
its a big fucking expensive ass show.
and if anything it might also be possible to have those satellites turned AGAINST the US, to block their own nukes, while the enemies hit their now unguarded targets.

This guy really doesn't take a fucking hint does he?
- He literally just said Canada has nothing that the US wants but he still won't stfu with this 51st "state" bullshit (as if he'd EVER allow them to become a full state with the population, voting power, and political leanings of another California... it's not even a real proposition that anyone would ever take seriously, including himself, but still won't shut up about it)
- He's a convicted rapist, so no.. No he does not.
  
  Unfortunately only found liable, not convicted

That's nt howpaying taxes works Donnie
- Well, to be fair, how would he know?
  
  It's what Orban did, and other Authoritarians, on whom the whole administration based their plan on. They get other aspects "right"... but I guess that is when Trump isn't the one talking.

Canada: How about we stay Canadian, we don't pay $61B and you go golden shower yourself in Moscow again.
- ...and stay there.

Know what else costs Canadians $0? Not buying in to an obvious scam from the MIC.
- But... It's golden

Correction, would pay 174B as 51st state,
You demonize and attack your own states that vote against you. we're supposed to believe we would A) Actually have rights and not be just a military occupation resource extraction zone, and B) That you wouldnt throw us under the bus with the rest of the democrat heavy states?
Fuck off.
The world is far too comfortable with Fascists, having taken hold in America, Russia, and far too many other places.
We need to go back? yeah. to when Fascists swung by the neck on a rope.

You'd think he would be the one person to learn you can't actually just unilaterally decide that some other country is going to pay for your stuff.

he needs Canada for this plan. But now he sabotages his own plan. Like the fat dumb dumb he is.

We don't need Trump's Golden shower.

How about we charge them $62B to keep NORAD running?
- This.
  they pay us to build it
  they pay us to run it
  our people only collect data
  they get a copy of that data
  ... As long as they keep paying their bills.

We should have a national media strategy where "Donald Trump says..." articles have to pay readers $1.

Get fucked Trump and all maga. If you support Trump then you are now my enemy.

Days after the USA ambassador in Canada said Trump was done with the 51st State shit. I suppose Trump will rename the ambassador function to embarrassador by an executive order.

Pressing x to doubt

Just what Canada needs: a military industrial complex grift program that'll never work. What an incentive!

Wouldn't it be states 51-60?
- Too many seats would effect the shitty GOP. No way thats happening
  
  If Canada entered collectively as a single state (pure nonsense, but hear me out), they’d get two senators and 1 representative to the house. The apportionments for US representatives would need to be raised to account for 40 million new people, which my guess wouldn’t happen, so instead California and Canada (who have almost equal populations) would just trade off allocations of representatives alternating with New York and Texas. Canada would end up with a lot of representatives in the House this way but wouldn’t be nearly as powerful as adding 20 senators if the provinces entered as individual states.
  All said, not all of these seats would go democrat, but the GOP definitely wouldn’t be able to guarantee majorities or stalemates in both houses like they have been for the past 20-30 years. Even if the Trump admin pulled this con off and annexed Canada as a US territory, the GOP would just block entry as a state since I can’t imagine this Congress passing a joint resolution to allow it. Furthermore, Congress doesn’t even have to consider adding a new state even if the population of that territory keep petitioning for it (see ongoing D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood petitions).
  Shit would get really complicated when the US has to handle the dissolution of parliament, withdrawal from the Commonwealth, and Quebec.

How about 0 and we don’t want it.

Uh, it’d be paid for with taxes, which <
<checks notes>
> are not zero dollars.

Boy such a salesman
- Exactly what I was thinking. Also, $0? It would be less than zero for the citizens. He'd also be against all the social programs like healthcare and the like and that healthcare would drastically get more expensive on top of having to pay out of pocket for the insurance.

Does a dome have to be arching upwards? This golden dome I've been hearing about just makes me think of a toilet full of piss.

It should surprise no one that this doesn't make sense with anti-ballistic missile technology. Even if you were willing to wait for the terminal phase so that you could be sure to block the nukes headed for Detroit and let slide the ones headed for Toronto, you might still see that there is a tiny problem. 90% of Canadians live within a 100mi of the Boarder.

Someone please put razor blades in this fuckers twelve daily bigmacs already please.
- Polonium would be way funnier

Never. Going. To. Happen.
- Let’s not use generative AI to make our point, how about that? Stop giving these fuckers your eyeballs attention and pretty soon money, you know pretty soon everybody you know has been at a Diddy party becauseeven if they weren’t, they can make that video.

I'll give you a lemon of you give me your house.
The art of the deal everyone.

And what, Trump, must Canada give in return?

You dense motherfucker. If they join us, there is no more Canada so it wouldn't matter what they (we) would or wouldn't pay!

From the looks of it Trump is jealous putler expanded Russia and this is the only reason he's talking about expanding America. I think it really is that petty. Nothing from this man is complex.

Anything to gain attention. He is sick.

Only MAGAts want to be lead by the Orange Turd.

I was wondering when ol' Trumpy would start talking about making Canada, a "state".

People thought inviting the "king" Charles would make any difference
- Pretty sure this visit was a regularly scheduled one, seen as he hasn't been here since his coronation.
  But hey, keep thinking everything is about the orange magat.
  
  Ton of canadian was arguing that the "king" coming was sending a strong message to trump on social media. I didn't make it about trump, it's people defending having a useless king who did make it about the orange magat.

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