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‘We Voted for Trump to Fix the Border. Now We’re Milking Cows Alone at 4 A.M.’ – Vermont Farmers Face Harsh Reality as ICE Raids Hit Home

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Machia voted for Trump, drawn by promises of border control and national security. “We didn’t want drugs or gangbangers,” he said. But what he didn’t expect was losing some of his most dedicated employees to immigration arrests.
“It’s scaring the farming community,” Machia admitted. “We didn’t think they’d come for the people who help us milk cows.”
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‘We Voted for Trump to Fix the Border. Now We’re Milking Cows Alone at 4 A.M.’ – Vermont Farmers Face Harsh Reality as ICE Raids Hit Home

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‘We Voted for Trump to Fix the Border. Now We’re Milking Cows Alone at 4 A.M.’ – Vermont Farmers Face Harsh Reality as ICE Raids Hit Home

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He fucking TOLD you what he was going to do. In very simple, plain language even.

Now We’re Milking Cows Alone at 4 A.M.
Well, you voted Trump, now you get to milk it for all it's worth. At 4 AM.
Get rekt, and pay a living wage next time you try and start a business.

My parents used to export fruits For a brief moment, I worked for the family business and had the pleasure of meeting some of these people.
I met a farmer that sold cherries. Over dinner he was telling me how pissed he was about Mexicans taking jobs away from Americans.
When pressed on why he doesn't just hire Americans, he said no Americans wants to work minimum wage to pick cherries for 10 hours a day.
My dad has been trying to convince him for years that his rhetoric is ultimately going to hurt his livelihood. But his patriotism/ tribalism outweighs all logic.
No idea how he is doing now, but I imagine he just let his fruit drop this year.

I mean, if you hire illegal immigrants you have to know someday you might lose those employees. The key is in the name: illegal.
- Which is usually a benefit for them. You call enforcement when they start talking about labor conditions or unions.
  The fascists are morons and overplayed their hand.

And to this milk farmer I say: Shut up and keep milking
I hope the industry collapses.

Stop moaning. It can't possibly be hard work, because you pay a pittance.
- It almost sounds as though this labour was chronically undervalued and absolutely taken for granted. If I strain my ears, hard, I can almost make out the dawning realizations.
  
  I hope their fucking cows die. Idiots.

If you voted for Trump you deserve worse than you'll get.

We voted for nazism and deportation, but didn't think it would affect us and our undocumented workers. Trump his first term was economically really bad, but Trump said it was the best and I trust him more than facts and numbers so I voted for him again, but didn't think he would fuck up the economy even more than before. I support the tariffs on China, but I didn't think it would affect the price of fertilizer I import from there, so now my farm is going bankrupt because China now doesn't want to buy my product anymore with the counter tariffs and they were my only customer. But I completely support Trump and fully trust him. Just from a cardboard box under the overpass from now on.

If you don't want to have to be milking cows in the wee hours, maybe cow farming isn't for you.

Don't worry, Dustin Machia, fifth-generation dairy farmer from Sheldon.
Sell your farm to Farmco Inc: their robots will milk your cows.
Buy an overpriced house in the city to live, maybe one with lots of drugs and gang-bangers.
Make sure you support Trump's election bid in 2028, and/or vote for Donald Trump, Jr, lest a satanic Democrat moderate who defeated AOC by just a hair wins.
If you get age related health problems, look to RFK, Jr.
Remember the days when Americans and Canadians could cross the Vermont-Quebec border with relative ease? Those days are gone, and much of Canada, and perhaps a third of America, now hate people like you.

remember when humans were free of intoxicants and violence ?
the good old-never-fucken-happened days.

Not a shred of simpathy from me. Now milk faster. Papa needs his cereal in the morning.

I wanted a new piercing but now I have a hole in my body with a piece of metal in it and am out $100. How could this go so wrong‽

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what a bunch of fucking idiots. I'd laugh harder if the actual threat to my life wasn't real.

Now they can find a cliff and jump! That would solve the country’s issue with stupidity and solve many national security concerns.

It's strange. I live in rural VT and whenever i bike around you see Trump signs on a lot of farm fields. But then you read the newspaper and you read about ICE detaining legal employees at farms and the farmers being upset about it.
I genuinely don't understand.
- To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.
- Propaganda works.
- Complete and dangerous lack of education and critical thought in any capacity
  
  Lies about brown people are their favorite, they can't resist. They'll believe anything you tell them as long as it's bad.
  Someone was bound to figure that out and start doing it (40 years ago)
- I come from a deep red state but all the farmers out there are Democrats, as are most degree holding individuals in general. It's the people who work retail, the police, the oilfield, and the miners who all vote red.

"We voted for trump..." = you deserve whatever you get
- Have the day you voted for 🌈

Or, you know, they could offer good wages and benefits to attract legal workers and charge enough for the milk to cover their costs. I'm lactose intolerant anyway, I don't care if milk and cheese become a little more expensive. But I know, my idea is crazy.
- These jobs are pretty well paid, so I'm not sure why they need illegal workers.
- What's interesting in watching all this unfold is the revelation to us all just how unsustainable a lot of this is.
  I'm doing ok, saved a bunch ahead of this dumpster fire bc I was afraid it'd happen. But it's weird watching people suffer at their own self-inflicted consequences.
  I want to help, but... 🤷

Even though Machia says he would still vote for Trump...
Then he gets what he gets. I don't feel a damn bit sorry for someone that stupid.

Sounds like he just incriminated himself from his own illegal business practices, lock him up!

"I hate black people unless they work on my plantation" - GOP voters
- It's hilarious because it's the same shit as Brexit. At its core it's racist policies that amount to "we don't like brown people". Sometimes you need to watch the house burn for people to learn.

"I didn't think the leopards would eat MY face :("

This is the kind of thing that made me realise how much a urban being I am.
The way, I'm imagining a farmer, at least the one with milk farm is a guy waking before the sun because he must milk the cows at 4 a.m.
- Which is odd because I thought it was all done by machine these days. Even on the boutique milk farms.
  
  I guess someone need to plug the machine to each cow and give each there turn.
  
  Not a dairy farmer, used to live by some and when I've seen them using machines it's still labor intensive, they guide the cows in, clean the machines, attach the machine, make sure the cows move out once done etc, so still requires them up and working. The machine just means they aren't physicality doing the milking part
- yeah but before it was those dirty mexicans waking up at 4 am to work, not Real Americans©! This is bullshit!

And the drugs is still happening anyway and those gangbangers were locals anyways so yeah, congratulations 🎉
- Didn't Trump let in family members of some Mexican drug cartels?
  
  Of course, they have loads of money, cash even, Trump likey cash
  
  They good. They got the gold card.

Thoughts & prayers, idiots.

The problem here is those farmers will now want to charge more. Even though their labor cost just went down.
- The US can just import more food!
  Oh, wait.
- unless they need to hire someone qualified to handle their administrative duties.
  
  LOL. If they had been smart they wouldn't have voted for trump.

"I voted to get kicked in the balls and I must say that I was shocked when I got kicked in the balls."

At some point Maga will realize the grift and there will be some sort of a reckoning. And I’ll be watching and laughing. Mind you, it will probably be a right wing uprising but still I will laugh at that stupid fucking country’s implosion.

Even though Machia says he would still vote for Trump, the recent crackdown has prompted a deeper reckoning within his community
Umm, okay, no sympathy then. Burn.
- Imagine being so dedicated to a politician/political party that you’re no willing to make a change that costs you 0$ to save your family business
- This is exactly when the interviewer should have looked right in their eyes and said "so you didn't learn a god-damn thing" then "enjoy your udders" then left.

So you are... Checks notes 2200 miles away from the border. I feel like even if we disregard them voting for trump and just judge them based on that being their main voting issue, they're dumb as fuck, aren't they?
- The guy is worried about gangs, yet lives in rural Vermont. What a fucking idiot.
  
  Dude, fox news has crammed rural folks' heads with so much terror, fear, and propaganda that they straight up believe that our cities- the very cities fox broadcasts from- are wartorn hellscapes brimming over with kiddie diddlers, drugs, and random violence. I used to work in a rural community with people that rarely went down to the central valley, and one dude in particular who watched Fox like he was gold medalist in it was always super freaked out anytime he/we went down to the valley. One time, he went to Modesto with another co-worker and, after they walked past one dude going the other way in a hurry, was like "holy shit dude, that was scary, I thought I was going to have to shoot that guy." Second co-worker was like "dude, wtf is wrong with you, that guy was clearly just in a hurry", but this clown swore that he felt their lives were in imminent danger.
  
  It is kinda crazy how easy it seems to convince people the safest time in American history is the most dangerous.
  
  Idiot, or extreme coward?
  ... ok you got me, it's both.
- No he's near the Canadian border, which he was told was a major route for fentanyl.
- Never understimate the power of bigotry as a political motivator, in particular among the uneducated. Trump and his oligarch cronies certainly doesn't.

Thoughts and prayers

Sometimes it feels like being happy that Trumpers are suffering is like cheering when a disease dies with the host. It's a momentary happiness that the Balrog fell... milliseconds before you realize it's pulling you down with it.
- What it actually is is that they have strapped us all (including themselves) to the flaming wreckage of our nation that they themselves created, and have been laughing maniacally as it plummets from the sky, while the rest of us scream in terror.
  Now they are starting to scream in terror, and I'm just about ready to start with the maniacal laughter.
- Nah, not like that at all. More like having the tiniest drop of schadenfreud when the idiot bus driver finally realizes they fell asleep on the job again and we're about to go off the cliff. Much better when the idiots responsible for this mess realize it than not.

Yeah, that's too bad. ANYWAY . . .

oh no, you lost access to the people you were viciously exploiting because of your racism?
well boo fucking hoo
- Exploiting how? They were paid employees. Employed by idiots, obviously, but that in itself is not exploitative.
  
  The most direct way they were exploiting them was employing them and at the same time voting for policy that deports them and those working like them.
  I'd tend to agree with you if it weren't for the support that farmer is giving Trump. They may have been paying a perfectly livable wage before. Now the Farmers will need to pay a wage that actually encourages locals work those jobs. Working for 12 hours a day would be a minimum of 100,000 for me.
  
  This doesn’t feel like a genuine question, because it’s an open secret that a majority of american restaurants, farms, and construction outfits run on migrant labor at below minimum wage. I personally work in construction in Oregon, and I’m well aware of this, even hundreds of miles from a boarder.
  
  If they're milking their own cows at 4 A.M. and complaining that there's no migrants to do the work, then one has to wonder if it's because they couldn't hire a citizen at the rates they were paying. If they can't hire a citizen at the rates they're paying well...
  
  "A red is any son-of-a-bitch that wants thirty cents an hour when we're payin' twenty-five!"

You have to be a unique kind of stupid to profit from illegal labour and vote to have illegals deported.
- Not unique, unfortunately, but very common.
- To be fair, they have been targeted very precisely with a military psychological operation that is explicitly geared to striking fear into the vulnerable and building poor political choices off of that fear.
  Yes, they're incredibly arrogant, violent, and stupid, but MAGA (and it's prequel; Brexit) works off of fear and not much else. Maybe if they really like country music I guess that could be a thing. Or flags. It sure as hell doesn't work off of reason or logic, obviously.
  
  Nah, farmers would vote for Satan if he had a GOP endorsement.
- Yea but like that one trans athlete won a race and the bitch that finished 5th was blonde so like, cant have that
  
  She didn't even win the race. She placed 1 position higher than the woman who freaked out.
- Most of the crime from illegal migrants is from farm labourers, they should certainly have expected them to be targeted.
  
  Citation needed
  
  It seems to me that most of the crime comes from inside of the White House.

"We voted for racism, not poverty and hard work! We don't want these jobs - they're for the spi... I mean for those people." --MAGA.

These maga fuckers deserve all the worst

“It’s scaring the farming community,” Machia admitted. “We didn’t think they’d come for the people who help us milk cows.”
You're the cow now, Trump milks these rubes who don't care what he says or does until it affects them.
This article is focusing on the wrong issue, forget the "woe-is-me-poor-farmer" BS. The real tragedy is the countless workers, ya know the ones that ACTUALLY do the labor that are jobless for justifiable fear of being called a terrorist invader and get a trip to an El Salvadorian prison.
Boo hoo, the workers you were exploiting can't work. Too fucking bad. Do it yourself at 4 AM, it's quite literally and explicitly what you voted for.
Is America finally great again ya fuck?
- I agree with you about what the real issue is. That said, this kind of article is important. Remember that MAGA can't empathize with someone unless they identify with that person. To MAGA, the struggles of immigrants are unimportant so focusing on them is targeting the wrong audience if we want to change minds. Highlighting the struggles of people MAGA can identify with might actually be able to change some minds.
  
  Dude, the guy in the interview said he would vote for trump again anyway, no amount of identification will help those kind of people.
  Just hope they have the day they voted for, and bless their heart.
  
  The UK did the same thing just a few years ago and got the same results. The farmers and conservatives complained about it in the same words and tone. People were saying this exact scenario would happen in the USA. That's all dismissed as fear mongering and they voted for it anyway, getting the same results and complaining in the same way. It's stupidity playing on repeat.
  
  They can't empathize with people period. Even when it's one of their own. This will not trigger empathy in any other magas.
  
  Remember that MAGA can't empathize with someone unless they identify with that person. To MAGA, the struggles of immigrants are unimportant so focusing on them is targeting the wrong audience if we want to change minds.
  More Americans need to watch The Grapes of Wrath.
  
  You're right and I hate it

Yeah, because Vermont had so many issues at the Canafian border... and "gangbangers" are such a big problem in rural areas lol
GET FUCKED.
- And the guy says he’d still vote for trump too
- They have imagined a threat (there isn't one) so they can imagine they are in danger or persecuted (they aren't), so they can imagine they deserve a savior (they don't), who they imagine Donald Trump to be (he most definitely isn't one).
  I'd say it's a cult, but I doubt most cults even require this level of mental gymnastics.
  
  Allow me to introduce you to most religion.
  
  It's all by design

Guess who he will vote for next election. Nothing like repeatedly jamming a stick in your spokes.

At least you guys are getting a parade for his birthday. That should be fun.
- 🤬

Even though Machia says he would still vote for Trump
Maybe if he just offers the leopards a little more face....
- Surely after eating enough faces the leopards will get a tummy ache and stop.
- The tears are seasoning
  
  its time for lions, and hyenas to eat your face.
- ALmost selfaware wolves.

Leopards! Leopards!
Nom Nom Nom!
Eat their noses
Bite their toeses
Nom Nom Nom!
Gooooo, LEOPARDS!

Fuck this guy and his farm.

Knowingly using undocumented workers, complaining about not having a visa program to continue taking advantage of migrants he degrades, and would still vote Trump, too. I hope they get bird flu from a big face full of cow mucus.

what did they think .. wait. yeah. they’re not capable of thinking.

“Not my undocumented immigrants, though.”
- By far the greatest flaw of this thinking is that there is an exception for the things they want.
- still gonna be funny when this quote is the hook for the next big country song
  edit - maybe someone should have been paying more attention to those rich men north of richmond :S

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