Conventions contain lots of Blahajs and UwU's
Conventions contain lots of Blahajs and UwU's
Conventions contain lots of Blahajs and UwU's
Not pictured: elitist chuds that are really angry about the trans and furry community, and think Linux and other open source communities were ruined by code of conducts.
They are unwelcome, and we troll and downvote them every time
I'll never forget dialling into a work meeting with the corporate infosec team who we needed some guidance from.
Their rep shows up and it's a fem-presenting person with pink cat-ear headphones.
I'm like oh fuck they sent the big guns, this is exactly who we needed to talk to. And I was right, we got exactly what we needed.
Was she wearing cargo pants? Did she have a subway map poster on her wall?
A cat explains DNS...
on this subject.. I've been using linux for like..7ish years now?
when do I get my choker and stockings? Do I have to fill out a form or..?
You have to telnet in and add your name to the list
They don't want you to know, but you can actually buy that stuff without being invited to their secret club
They should have been mailed by now... I'll check on it!
No form, just whisper 'sudo apt-get install femboy-starter-kit' into the void and they will arrive within 24 hours
Void? The distro?
I don't know where "🏳️⚧️" is, but all the girls from there are hot.
The guys from that place are pretty af too!
And don't get me started on the its, theys, and etcetera. The weird ones are so cool~
100%
Honestly everyone hot.
Linux users: people think about us
People: I wonder what's for dinner
Conclusion: Windows, Mac and BSD users are cannibals
SOYLENT LINUX IS PEOPLE!
My ship sails in the morning
Weird corner of the userbase you submerged yourself in
Most people I come across just wanted a phone that wasn’t made by Apple
I would argue that's the cool part. You also have the average hyper racist neo-reactionary Suckless fossid user who thinks daring to write in anything other than C is "gay" or smth.
As a gay trans man, looking down on people who code in anything other than C is my toxic masculinity. Don’t let reactionaries take it away from me.
You’re not a real man if you use an IDE. Vim and gcc were good enough for the founding fathers (D & R), they’re good enough for me.
real men write their code one bit at a time with a laser pointer and a fiber optic network cable
Or you could just use zig which is better at compiling C than C (the second it supports the espressif chips I'm never touching C again)
I use an IDE... guess I'm not a real man anymore 🏳️⚧️
/s
Psh, etch the code directly onto the HDD platters, SSDs are for losers.
What did Suckless ever do to you ??😅
I think the abundance of trans women (≈ women who were raised as boys) is proof the social conditioning the only factor in why there aren't more women in STEM fields. Women love this shit just as much as men, but they're actively steered away from it.
(Yes, women face other challenges beyond lack of exposure, but I think all of them can be traced back to social factors as well, such as how men are conditioned to treat women.)
I have a different theory.
When you buy a desktop or laptop 99.9% of them will come with Windows preinstalled. Unless you get an Apple product, but than its 100% macOS.
So everyone running Linux has chosen to not go for the easy option, but spend some time and effort to install something they prefer.
So that immediately is a filter, where people that just go for the default easy option are filtered out.
So it makes total sense the Linux community has more people that are not afraid to choose a path they perfer instead of just doing what everyone else does, because doing something else is harder and for many people scary.
My experience (and this is purely anecdotal) is that the hacker/cybersecuruty community is also like this and has a lot of trans people compared to the total population.
Your theory doesn't really hold up, because with that explanation you'd expect an abundance of trans woman in many other traditionally male dominated fields as well.
The more likely explanation is that both being trans and being heavily invested in Linux to the point you visit conferences correlate to being neurodivergent.
That said the other part is true: there are probably many women who's talent and interest in STEM was never properly nurtured. From my personal experience in the field I can say that my female colleagues are just as competent as my good male colleagues, but I'm yet to encounter a grossly incompetent female colleague. My theory is that woman need higher dedication and talent to overcome the adversary that unfortunately still exists, resulting in a higher skill floor.
I think neurodivergence is only part of it. As someone different, but not trans, who often dealt with discrimination for seeming obviously gay, part of the reason is that when dealing with people you can be nice and do everything right and be treated horribly because of being different, but computers have no bias. So if you do things right with computers, you win. Even with other subjects like math or science, there is some level of interacting with people who may be prejudiced that just isn't there when you spend 30 hours figuring out some new computer thing on your own. Also your interactions may be remote and involve more smart logical people. With math, usually some learning as to how to deal with hard problems needs to be done by interacting with people not via email or forums or lists. My point is I think some trans women could just as easily become great engineers or great mathematicians or grear car repair techs, but the nature of learning computers reducing disrespect.
Your conclusion is probably correct, but I don't think your proof works. I'm going to play devil's advocate now: The thing to consider here is that these women were not just raised as boys, they were also born as boys. They may be on HRT now, but what if there are differences between how the male and female brains work that come from the Y chromosome? Or your hormonal balance in your formative years? I would hope not because that gives sexists way too much ammo, but we do not know for sure.
There's other potential reasons for all the trans women in software engineering too. Children who don't feel comfortable in their own identities are probably way less social - I don't have enough trans friends to confirm this is true, but I feel like it might be. Not being particularly popular in school drives you to gaming as a hobby because you don't need friends for that, and at least in the 90s and 00s that would usually mean tinkering with your PC (because Windows never fucking worked properly, did it now). This would also explain all the furries IMO.
but what if there are differences between how the male brain and female brains work that come from the Y chromosome?
This assumes that trans women are born with a male brain. The consensus of the scientific community says that this is false - being born with a female brain in a male body is how someone is born trans which further supports the argument you are responding to.
I’m paraphrasing here but essentially the SRY gene (that stimulates production of androgens in a fetus) is released at a different time than the formation of the brain. So it is possible, but rare for someone to be born with a brain that doesn’t match their body and poof that’s where trans people come from.
EDIT:
Broke my heart when my daughter at age 9 or 10 said one day that science was for boys. She went to a very progressive elementary school, I'm a software dev, and have no idea where that came from.
I am contributing to the "trans girls everywhere for some reason"
Furry sysadmin here, also trans but not a girl =D
Software from the 80's? Get that new fangled garbage outta here. If it doesn't predate the first Alien movie it's probably full of bugs.
Is there actually pre-1979 software I am using that I probably didn't know about?
As far as I'm aware, a lot of the core utilities originate back some time ago, stuff like ls, CD, chmod/chown, cat, sed, awk etc.
Now the question is, is a piece of software that's been maintained or ported since the 70s considered pre 79 software?
Off the top of my head, vi came out in the late 70s (though it might have been a little while later before you could start editing directly through vi)
Unless you're running BSD or some other genetic Unix probably not as everything GNU is newer than that. GNU is 80s, original Unix 70s, in the 60s you still have giant minicomputers with very little standardisation, including ISA, and before the 60s there were not even compilers.
A decent chunk of software traces lineage back to then, even if the old code has been retired: vi
is the screen terminal mode of ex
with is a more featureful ed
which got most of its features from qed
which is 60s software. Cutting-edge: You didn't have to punch holes any more, you had a keyboard and a printer. Someone figure out where dd
has its argument syntax from so we know whom to blame.
People who think the idiom is "how x looks like" rather than "what x looks like", which is more correct.
Every sentence also ends in a :3
:3
sudo rm -rf / no-preserve-root :3
No socks?
Furry sysadmin and trans girl reporting here lol
This is the meme I needed. Thank you!
This is mostly true, especially in communities like this. I do know a couple of guys who are the complete opposite politically - ultra conservative Christians. But when they need forum support and encounter this part of the community it just makes them stronger in their opinion that the world needs Jesus.
They need TempleOS
They need </ToS breaking thoughts/>
I'm three of those
Your name matches the comment directly above.
:3
You're Indian tech software from the 80's setting the kernel mailing list on fire?
It's missing Libertarian idiots
🐎💩<- Libertarian idiots
I have yet to meet a furry or trans IT person IRL. Is there just a higher concentration of them across the pond? Or is bullying a bigger issue there maybe?
I have yet to meet a furry or trans IT person IRL.
Visit any comic or anime convension and you'll find the former in spades.
As to the later, idk. I've got three cousins who came out as Trans in the last five years or so.
There's definitely been a thaw around sex and gender over the last twenty years, and I can't help notice a certain number of "butch lesbians" and "sis men" just saying "fuck it, I'm the other gender and straight" and going all the way.
Or is bullying a bigger issue there maybe?
Bullying certainly. But also there hasn't been a large and active transgender community until fairly recently. People coming to terms with what being transgender means and how to self-actualize it wasn't possible in the homophobic atmosphere of the 20th century.
We'll see how long this revolution survives in the current century. Germany also had a boom/bust of transgenderism in the 1920s. Hopefully, Trumpism/Starmerism isn't a bell weather for that kind of reactionary reversal.
I know a single person in a nearly 2 decade career. But I've seen this stereotype posted repeatedly. I think it's just niche, loud, sections of the internet wearing blinders, being in echo chambers, and wishful/fantasizing thinking.
What, do you ask your coworkers such questions? Unless it's their entire personality, it doesn't really get revealed in normal conversation...?
I worked with a guy for over a year and I never would have guessed it, until I saw FurAffinity come up as a suggestion in his browser once.
Of course I don't. Maybe I should've said "never met anybody obviously like this". Nobody knows about my political leanings or sexual preferences at work either.
I work in tech and there are a lot of trans people in the industry, 10% of my company are trans. I do live in a country where it is safe to be trans person, so maybe people are more open about it.
Outside of the US?
mint: lisa frank edition (and i'm here for it)
Both pics are accurate at times
I love the fact that "Ninja Cat" was used as a mascot for Windows 10 Insiders back in the day. Makes the meme even better to me.
Missed opportunity
The gun should have been labeled !!
It is, with the best meme security problem that came to my mind.
../
'sudo' is another contender
It needs way more gawdy neon color palettes.
I swear half these people with blogs pick the most aggressive bright pink and greens when building their websites from scratch for the first time and then just stick with it!
How could you forget the weebs?
Also didn't include the 'old guard', the meme was just too small, or doesn't have enough recognizable details respectively (and putting them in heaven had bad implications).
Buckle up, samurai.
Absolutely beautiful. Happy to be a part of this community and still learning every day.
It's either "how it looks" or "what it looks like". You can't mix and match.
Thank you, came here to say this. It really feels like people are fighting over having the worst grammar, like there's something to win from it. Even basic stuff like this is apparently too hard to comprehend.
That is hardly basic if you aren't a native speaker.
You don't need the "like" on the end
wouldnt it be hardware from the 80s?
Ya, Linux...