Palantir CEO Alex Karp praises Saudi engineers and takes a swipe at Europe, saying it has 'given up' on AI

I'm still failing to see enough upsides to AI to justify the mad rush all these greedy arseholes are to get it into everything.

what a fucking moron.
they didn't give up on it.
they never bought in.
- He's such an awful, ghoulish vampire, him, the oracle guy and the paypal mafia. Why are these people taken more seriously than senile crackheads like they're USA presidents.
  They belong in mental asylums with mouth gags permanently attached to contain their mental poison.

that's what makes europe great

AI is most useful for surveillance and social engineering. It’s no wonder all the fascists love it.

Well because AI has been mostly hype and worthless. It has uses, but not as life changing as promised. And extremely energy intensive.
- It will hit the average person in ways they cant see, my firm isnt replacing retirements because they can be filled by AI. What was once a vital role has been downgraded to the point where it can be completed by an AI, their manager now handles the back office parts and AI escalationz which given their nature will reduce overtime. In a business unit of ~40 people 7 have retired without issue and there are no plans to replace the rest as they go.
  
  Your customers have noticed the decline in quality, guarantee it.
- I think it could be life changing, but true progress will take time, like any tech. There's a reason most scientists know you can't just throw money at something and just make it work. That's why technocracy and the idea of chosen elite is so fucking dumb.
  Imagine if in the 80s we had just said ok, Steve Jobs did it. We're done here. We don't give any outside voices or ideas in tech a chance unless Jobs gives it the ok first. Imagine how much cool shit we would have missed out on if people hadn't just said fuck it I don't need all that money, I'll just make my own shit and make it work with what I have.
  Innovation and progress does not flourish in a neatly controlled box, and most people that don't just buy other people's work know that. That's the real reason people started pushing for DEI. Not just bc it was the "PC" thing to do. It helps bring new perspectives which then leads to new ways of thinking and problem solving.
  If you completely isolate AI you may get some cool shit but eventually if you just buy out the entire market to fit your singular vision you get repeating/boring and stale.
  I'm pretty sure they think they're at a point where if they just keep throwing money at it, it will just start getting creative and update itself, but when it's as unreliable as it is, I don't see that happening anytime soon

Why does it feel like all the worst people are working together to fuck over the world?
- Bevause we are letting our guard down from psychopaths, seduced by their money and submissive toward them to get some. Reduced to prostitutes on our knees to please them for rewards they convince us to crave while using our pension funds so they can take bet on exploitating us more.
- Because we are losing the class war
- Bc you're paying attention and not sticking your head in the sand.
  It feels like it bc they definitely are. I'm in Louisiana and just woke up to find out news my corrupt Governor is being accused of scheming to install a new senator so that he can then have them resign and take both Senate and governor seats for himself.
  Report: President Trump and Gov Landry discuss U.S. Rep Julia Letlow as a potential challenger to Senator Cassidy in 2026 Republican primary
  One of several examples of how Landry and Trump seem to be scheming together to be as corrupt as possible
  Even for Louisiana that's a whole other level of corruption..not even the first Louisiana governor to do it, but the last one was in the 30s.
  The last governor that was this blatant about corruption also had a personal vendetta against my city and tried to take it under siege using the national guard
  Guess what else the current governor and his doge inspired task force are scheming

I wonder how hard it is to gather private info on Palantir CEO and upper management 🤔

I mean, every apologist and defender of capitalist apocalyptic hellscapes will have that view, sadly. So long as it makes them an extra buck it's good for them, consequences to society or environment be damned.
As an European who does advocate and see value in the use of AI, but not at any cost, I'll take his opinion as a compliment. As they say, "I want AI to do my dishes while I create art, not for me to do the dishes while the AI produces insta-art".
And eventually if AI gets capitalistically out of hand and leads to many people in service-based economies to poverty and unhappiness we're sure to see a revolution to restore balance, as many times in history when a few elites made things unbearable for the rest of the population. AI is here to serve humanity, that's where the value is, not to serve only a select few.
- I agree, and as I keep trying to point out to people in the U.S., I'm pretty sure the reason Trump is not even giving GOP loyalists emergency disaster money when something happens in their state, is because there's nothing left.
  He literally put all of America's eggs in one basket because he (and Peter Thiel) thought/think if they just deregulate everything and keep throwing money at it as fast as possible they will win, and other countries will be coming to us to buy our AI.
  Tbf they are definitely planning to use it for evil, not to make humanity better, but I still don't see why anybody would buy AI tech from the U.S.
  I am wondering what happened in Brussels though, that made them say they're considering some deregulation.
  Trump was also very pissy at all of the EU but apparently Brussels in particular really hurt his ego
  
  Trump was also very pissy at all of the EU but apparently Brussels in particular really hurt his ego
  No what happened is that all of his backers want him to go after the EU because the EU is constantly suing American megacorps for breaking of local laws, and they don't like that.
  Trump is just doing their bidding, he isn't actually angry at the EU, except because he has the vocabulary of a rather dim 8-year-old, everything is "nasty" and "evil" and "bad".
  
  Germany. Italy. A bunch of EU states. Some African states. Who am I kidding? Capitalism rules the world, they're just extremely emboldened now. Globally, we need to wake up and show them they've overplayed their hand -- before we can't.
- AI is here to serve humanity, that’s where the value is, not to serve only a select few.
  Mostly right now it is here to torture humanity with low quality slop. It literally can't do the things people claim it is capable of doing, no matter for whose benefit. It is just that some people benefit even if the output quality is significantly lower as long as they have enough people convinced that it is a viable replacement.
  
  The AI field is more than just LLM and generative AI. Like models that can detect cancer in scans are not LLMs or generative AI.
  
  As with everything it's grey rather than black and white. It can do the things people claim it can do but only up to a point. All of the people claiming it can run a business on its own selling you a lie, but that's not to say that it can't do some tasks within a business.
  For example it can code pretty effectively, as long as the application is relatively small in total file size, anything large it tends to get lost in.

This dude is pure evil and anyone who tolerates his presence is a fascist 👍

Who cares what Peter Thiel thinks about anything. He's a leading cause of the plutocracy that is now happening in the United States, and that's one of his better points.
Even if he was knowledgeable on the subject he has a biased take anyway.
- Teal boy has a bias alright, it's the lense of pure fucking evil and greed.
  The only care I have for his opinion is to know it to actively do the opposite at every occasion in an effort to make the world a better place.
- I'm not saying I believe its important, the president believes it's important bc Thiel has been funding him and making policy decisions since his first term, most people (myself included) just didn't notice it until the second one.
  The first time, he tried to promote AI deregulation while insisting we would retain American values that helped us be better than China's surveillance state, but then Trump lost power and Thiel lost 4 years of progress at the global AI table because of those values (democracy and the constitution). Now that he's gotten his seat back he's not going to risk ever letting it go. IF he ever intended to try to maintain or respect those values before, he certainly doesn't now.
  That is why the truth behind Trump/JD Vance/Adrian Vermeule's argument for a constitutional interpretation of strong executive authority needs to be made loud and clear.
  I cannot comprehend how anyone who is not already a billionaire could be dumb enough to support this, but let's just be honest about what you're supporting.

The guys views make no sense. He's basically a socialist who struck it rich and is now a conservative trying to use leftist ideas to attack the left. He still calls himself a socialist.
- Surprise - people saying things you like are not your friends any more than people saying things you hate.
  Surprise - people saying things you hate are not your enemies any more than people saying things you like.
  Surprise - the words "socialist" and "capitalist" have no useful meaning at all. Specific solutions devised and offered as part of something "socialist" or "capitalist" are all over the place of the choice of instruments, with nothing uniting them along those lines other than how cover art aesthetics unite books.
  And surprise - people saying ugly and dumb things might have a better idea of what they are doing than people who seem very fine. No connection at all.
  I think Alex Karp and his colleagues are quite close to having a bunch of Starlinks and AI-powered combat drone networks covering all the globe. Maybe with some commercial stuff working similarly. The future might be theirs. Yep, that's a very raw and stupid application of computing power and it's dystopian, but what gets deployed IRL matters more than elegance.
  Also this is in the context of USA giving Israel a kick in the butt, so maybe it's not such bad news that they are getting involved with Arab monarchies and not, say, with Turkey or Russia.

Aren't even Libs pushing backdoor bills and other gross surveillance bills? Hear rich people's words, watch their actions. Including politicians.The less evidence supporting their words, the more evidence they're not worthy of their positions.
- Here in the US there really aren't any actual libs, and yes, the apparatus of our government is very much behind deregulation of AI, though I imagine some states will push back. The House of Representatives is currently trying to ban state-level regulation of AI for ten years by sneaking amendments into spending bills.
  This douche is just angry because the EU is working on regulating AI, and that's a huge swath of the business worldwide. I'm grateful that the EU is actually moving regulation forward.
- They're not pushing enough deregulation and enough backdoor bills, that's the problem.

this dude should really choke on it.
- That guy should get a haircut and get a proper job.
  
  there was this microblogmeme where the joke was like "u need the ai to do your work because you're too shit? do u need it to do your art for you because you can't? u need it to fuck your wife for u also? fucking loser" and i think it'd fit here but couldn't find it :( add: also why u gotta sully Tolkien's name by naming your Military Industrial Complex AI-powered Snitching Machine Apparatus after his word? fuck you for that especially, please die to bullet wounds rn
  
  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CqvpnuUrGug

For a brief brief moment I was elated when I parsed the title as 'Palantir says it has given up on AI'. Then I read the article and was left dejected.

I personally have no problem with AI (all your problems with AI can be solved by overthrowing capitalism), but I don't want to hear anything from these guys.
- There are huge issues with AI, namely its very negative effect on the environment as well as being trained on misinformation.
  
  Oh, the environment thing is true, fair enough.

Sound advice would be to adopt the opposite position of anything that sociopath says.

this is one THiels spy tech companies.

I wish we would have given up on it ... but that shit is still creeping in everywhere.

Given up? I am not sure we even tried and with good reason, it's a dumb technology based entirely on hype.
- What do you mean? Everything I own is connected to the blockchain and I have NFTs hanging on all of my walls.
- What an ignorant statement. Unlike other hypes, AI is far from dumb and has a lot of useful applications that could better the world.
  What's dumb is the hyped up solutions everyone is talking about.
  
  Ok yeah AI is a broad collection of algorithms, but most people when hear AI will think the current iteration of llm models. That's how I used it.

death is not good enough for ai people
- We should just wall off Florida (all my world improvement plans involve walling off Florida), stick them in there and then have the AI administer their lives, and see how long they last.