Israel calls for all 1.1 million civilians to leave Gaza City within 24 hours

I feel like im going nuts.We are watching the destructon of a civillian population take place,cheered on by western goverments and media.I just feel sick

Is it really cheered?
Most people only agree that the murders on civilians started by Hamas were absolutely horrible and unnecessary. As for what is coming after I don't think normal people are happy about either.
- All western mainstream media and western governments are firmly supporting Israel. So, yes the west is actively endorsing genocide here.
“But they are allowed to defend themselves” says the Western presidents.
This has nothing to do anymore with defending themselves. This is just another path to their genocide mission.
- I'm curious. Put yourself in Israel's shoes. You've been massively attacked by Hamas from Gaza.
  What would you do next? How would you approach this war?
  How would you defend yourself to make sure this never happens again.
Agree. I can acknowledge Hamas is fucked up, while also acknowledging Israel is using a bigger stick to simply be more fucked up in a more organized way now.
With an openly racist rhetoric too. Goverment officials are calling Palestinians "savages, animals, vermin" OPENLY, the head of state is posting videos about buildings getting bombed proudly.
Yeah there's one universal truth in war: everyone loses. Maybe it's their life, their sanity, their resources, or their supporters, but everyone loses.
- The ruling class wins.
Me too, it's completely insane
Both sides are murdering countless innocent civilians. This whole situation is horrible. There are no winners in this war.
- I'm still baffled by what Hamas was thinking this thing would achieve. It's giving Israel the excuse to completely wipe out Gaza. It's one thing to destroy the wall and attack a military base, but murdering entire villages was only going to have one outcome. It's like they wanted the opposite of Palestinian liberation.
- Nonsense, the crimes of israel are on a complete different scale. You can't fucking say both sides are bad when palestine fights back after decades of oppression.
- Uh... Israel is killing countless people. Hamas is killing countable people. There is no comparison. It is completely lopsided. The fact that you don't understand that indicates for everyone around you where you get your (did)information from.
Which western governments are cheering it on?

And go fucking where and how?? They all will just catch the train?? A boat?? A really big bus??

Also

The Israeli military said it would operate "significantly" in Gaza City in the coming days and civilians would only be able to return when another announcement was made.

Famously leaving and returning is very easy for Palestinians and they will have no reservations leaving with a potential of returning.

Yeah there's no way the city isn't just annexed into Israel.
- Yeah they are not just going to do that. First they will flatten it and kill anyone who stayed in it THEN they will annex it.
They don't care. They already cut off the water. The Israeli government is hoping to see as many men, women and children dead in the deserts and plains of the region as possible.
Just leave bro! Trust us™
Haven't you heard? They're taking a train to go camping.
- Ooof.
There's a history of returning millennia after being forced to leave in that part of the world. I'm sure the Israeli government has a similar timeframe in mind.

How the fuck do you evacuate more than 1 million people , where the majority are women and children??

You know, through the border crossings that are all closed. They're just announcing this to claim that they gave people ample warning to leave when inevitably scores of Palestinians end up bombed.
- Not just closed, ISREAL BOMBED THEM so they'd close
You can't. Isreal knows this. But by saying "We told them to evacuate" they've now provided themselves sufficient cover for everything that happens after. When civilians get slaughtered on mass they'll just keep repeating "They were told evacuate".
Not to mention the old, the sick and the disabled. On top of that the numerous injured from the bombings.
Answer: You don't. Not in 24 hours and especially not when the people in charge don't want the civilians to leave either. This will be used by Israel as a thin justification that whatever they do next did not hit civilians because they asked them to evacuate (the 24h hours part of this ultimatum will be dropped under the table, never to be mentioned again).
- Just to put it into perspective:
  Lets assume half of those 1.1 M find shelter in Gaza but outside Gaza city, (I think this is generous, as it will mean ~2 people living there usually for each person seeking shelter, as 2 M people live in the entire Gaza region). This leaves 550 k people to exit through the three border crossings. This leaves each person an average time of less than half a second per parallel processing capacity of the crossings to cross the border. Note that all three of these crossings are closed if I'm not mistaken.

Over a million people out of a city in that region is impossible.

Over a million people are going where exactly? Are there camps where they can stay? Where there is water and food? Are their basic needs met? Or are they just expected to walk into the desert, never to return from the shadow realm?

Over a million people who are supposed to stay away while the Israeli military does what exactly? Fight against the Hamas on a fair battlefield? Because the Hamas is known for playing by the rules, yes? Because they also won’t just leave the city to strike at a later time, right? You understand how terrorists operate? You might have learned one thing or another in the last few decades?

Over a million people who can’t leave the city and will either get murdered by the Israeli military, murdered by Hamas or slaughtered in the crossfire. Israel can say „Told ya to leave the city“ and Hamas will get rock hard at the next generation of desperate people who will be easy to recruit.

But what do I know? You do you. Everyone else seems to know it better and shit just keeps getting worse. Every single decade, this shitfest escalates more and more. People die, politicians condemn, some really like the idea of Jew or Muslims dying. Everyone acts like they did a thing.

This is not the end. We will be here again in ten years. Same shit, only even worse than now.

The impossibility of evacuating all those people safely is the point, Israel wants the civilians to die.
This is the modern Trail of Tears, but since Israel has been predetermined to be the good guy it will be cheered and celebrated.
- Meanwhile Hamas is telling people to stay and is actively stopping people from leaving. source
Fight against the Hamas on a fair battlefield?
They're going to bomb it from a very safe distance. And, if the last week is anything to go by, may 'accidentally' bomb places they've herded everyone into.
- I feel like we are watching an opening phase of Israel literally clearing the place out, forcing these people to the beach, then telling the international community too come pick them all up, or else.
They history doesn't repeat itself. But sure enough, there is an awful lot of verses in the books that rhyme with the last week.

Israel's wet dream, an excuse to displace half of all Palestinians from their land, bomb it all to the ground, if there are casualties; "Hey, you were warned."

Don't get me wrong. Fuck Hamas, but also fuck Israel, fuck neocolonialism, fuck propaganda/disinformation about baby beheadings and free Palestine!

Don't forget fuck religion. Let's not pretend like that's not a core issue.
- Fuck religion and self righteous religious zealots who've abandoned reason and humanity
This scene from a game has some resemblance of the situation. Plus, israel is using white phosporus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7TaLjdXMc
"Why...?" "You brought this on yourself"
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This is barely even a "formality" before a massacre. Israel was looking for an excuse to go all out without any restraint and they got it. It's fucking tragic that these bastards are playing with civilians lives. Fuck both authorities.

- It's a war between genocidal terrorists and apartheid colonialist fascists, with a massive civilian body count on both sides. Can't we all just be sad about dead kids instead of being cheerleading freaks?
  edit:
  Y'know, I though this @ name was familiar and so I figured I'd take a look.
  https://lemmy.ca/comment/3944960
  @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
  Israel is genociding and colonising Palestine since about 80 years. Ukraine was genociding Donbass for 8 years.
  ... yeah, I'm not sure I'm really going to take him seriously on his opinion on geopolitics. Blocked.

Israel is a terrorist state.

Same tactic by israel before. They flat out a building office of AlJazeera & Associated Press back in 2021 with a 1 hour warning. They really dont care if all civilian manage to evacuate or not

https://youtu.be/bQjq802NX8g

Killing journalists, truly a sign of a healthy democracy
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So considering the disproportionate actions against innocent civilians we're seeing Israel do to annex some land, we're surely will see sanctions and economic blocks against them soon right? RIGHT?

Israel has been pretty consistent with not wanting to annex Gaza land; it isn't like there is that much left. The focus has generally been to take over the West Bank.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Israel moved Palestinians from the West Bank to Southern Gaza for "safety reasons" to clear out pockets of West Bank Palestinians.
No, they have blue eyes and our governments are subservient. And Israel cyber taskforce have backdoor everywhere or in most our infrastructure.
After all, this is how they sold the UA unanimous and unconditional support.
Get out of here with the "disproportionate actions" rhetoric. Watch any countey get shot at ONCE and take it like Israel has consistently for the past DECADES. Enough is enough. Hamas is ISIS and has been elected by the people of Gaza. Never again means never again
- has been elected by the people of Gaza
  Not really. The last election was 17 years ago and literally half the current population are aged 18 or younger.

Where are they supposed to go? Egypt closed their border too. Israel wants to kill them and then say "we warned you". The israel government and Hamas need to pay for every citizen that is hurt

That would be near impossible even if organized.

It literally just feels like a guise so that when humans rights groups or the international community raise questions about it they can be like, "But we warned them!!"

Do no forget that your government supports israel

They do?

After 24 hours Israel will slaughter who is left and pretend like everyone who isn't Hamas had time to leave. This smells like a thin concession so Israel can pretend like they follow international laws for whatever comes next.

And then many of those who managed to flee end up dying too, since they have nowhere to go.
- Also, large crowds fleeing in panic are not exactly save in themselves. And don't even start with people with disabilities.
so Israel can pretend like they follow international laws for whatever comes next.
They aren't part of the Geneva Convention, so they'll likely stick with the their own (US-backed) rules.
- They're just offering it as a fig leaf that pundits can use as a talking point, and basically every journalist that isn't Medhi Hassan is just going to neglect to push back and mention the practical impossibility of evacuating Gaza City.

Israel is a terrorist state.

Not even a state. Just a colonial project by terrorist settlers.
- By colonists, for colonists

Damn, Isreal really saw what happened in fallujah and went "Ooh write that down write that down"

I see someone has an Endlösung in mind. It’s hard to escape the impression that maybe it wasn’t intelligence community incompetence that invited this “perl habor”. And the plans for this do feel like they’ve been in some drawer for a while.

Nothing justifies Hamas but likewise, nothing justifies doing this to the many innocent, the children, the babies, the people just happened to be born in the wrong spot. The average age in Gaza is, iirc, below 18

This coming massacre brought to you by taxpayers like you! Thank you!

I mean, Gaza is larger than just Gaza city so it could be done eventually I guess but the timeline is laughable.

It's also one of the most densely populated places in earth. It's not like they have a million vacant buildings ready to go. You couldn't do this on a multi-year timeline.

Are we going to get an ICC warrant for Netanyahu or that is a special preserve for the Russian leader now.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

JERUSALEM/GAZA/TEL AVIV, Oct 13 (Reuters) - Israel's military chief said "Now is the time for war" as his country amassed tanks near the Gaza Strip ahead of a planned ground invasion to annihilate the Palestinian militant Hamas group that rules the enclave and was behind deadly weekend attacks.

On Friday he was due to meet Jordan's King Abdullah and Mahmoud Abbas, head of the Palestinian Authority in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, as part of a Middle East tour aimed at stopping spillover from the war.

America's top diplomat, Blinken planned to visit key U.S. allies Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates - some with influence on Hamas, an Islamist group backed by Iran.

Israel's parliament approved Netanyahu's emergency unity government late on Thursday, including a number of centrist opposition lawmakers, to display the country's united determination to fight Hamas.

Japan has arranged for a charter flight to depart Tel Aviv on Saturday for its citizens wishing to leave Israel, Chief Cabinet Secretary Hirokazu Matsuno told reporters on Friday.

Gazans, mainly descendants of refugees who fled or were expelled from homes in Israel at its founding in 1948, have suffered economic collapse and repeated Israeli bombardment under a blockade since Hamas seized power there 16 years ago.

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