At least there's no ads...
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5613
There's two "full time" Lemmy developers, and one of them just added a repeating dialog box that will pop up regardless of instance asking for money to be sent to his and another lemmy.ml admin's personal accounts as a salary.
KDE Plasma introduced a yearly popup for donation and it stirred controversy. Apparently it worked quite well to get donations.
I think it's acceptable and not an advertisment. It's a reminder for the service you're using and you should donate to keep it going.
I might be reading this wrong, but does it not say "yearly"? It may be repeating, but if that frequency is once a year, I'm willing to live with that.
The big deal to me is it's being added to the base code, to go out on all instances.
People will see "Lemmy developers" and assume it's related to their instance, and not realize it's the "salary" for two admins on one of the most problematic instances around.
It feels like other people took the free code, did well with it, and now the creators suddenly believe in capitalism and want rewarded for their labor.
If the only instance using Lemmy was lemmy.ml, most of us wouldn't be here, but they want to profit off of us because our instances used free code.
This is very standard in the open-source world. No matter what you may think of the developers' personal opinions, their work is valuable.
Also, asking for donations is not "profiting off of us(sic)", nor is it a salary, it's just a text prompt hoping you'll give the devs a kickback for their contribution. You can just ignore it and go about your day.
They likely don't make enough to live off of from those donations.
Why do you feel negative about it? I like lemmy and asking for yearly donation by people that actually put hours isn't a crime in my opinion.
OP doesn't like the devs' political opinion. I, too, hate tankies, but their work is not less valuable due to their opinion and they are allowed to seek monetary donations to help them do further work in the future.
Maybe a stupid question, couldn't someone just fork it and remove this?
Yep, lots of people have been wanting to fork.
Especially since the excuse for lemmy.ml is the two developers need a "test instance" because there's so many bugs when they release.
The large instances are usually a couple versions behind because they give volunteers time to fix the code first.
There's no benefit tying the future of all instances to lemmy.ml
Yep, lots of people have been wanting to fork.
Hm? You make it sound like the devs are blocking that from happening, and that there's all this chatter about it, but people cant decide -- But that's not how forking works. There's no "people want to fork, but they just cant decide how to proceed, or they're being blocked from doing it, or there's been all this talk about forking, whatever whatever." Like usually it's not an all or nothing, it's not a thing everyone has to discuss, "we gotta fork and every instance migrate over to this other codebase." Anyone can just fork it and self host it. I know you didn't say exactly those words, but it kinda sounds like you don't really know much about what you're saying, sorry to say :/ Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an open source dev, just an admin. But idk dude, it sounds like you have a misunderstanding about the big picture of open-source development.
The problem is maintenance, as mentioned below, but I guess I'm more curious about the federative implications of forking lemmy and running your own fork -- is it feasible? Maybe someone else could answer
Fork it, it's free.
I'd love to see you try to maintain the codebase. That's not free.
If I don't get a silk screened Lemmy tote bag and or travel mug for my donation, I'M NOT DOING IT 😤
This will not take effect for a while, most large instances take a long time to update because their releases are full of bugs and need fixed by volunteers before rolled out to larger instances.
The reason many of us came to Lemmy from Reddit is the decentralized nature, and the fact no one could really control.
If the creators are holding Lemmy back, it's worth discussing why the larger instances don't make a full fork independent of lemmy.ml admins