Good job everyone blocking and boycotting .ml! It's having an effect, users are noticing and MAUs on their comms are falling!

RT stands for Russia Today.

It's those damn Reds, again.

Edit: sad the guy made a comment about rooster teeth and people don't know what Red vs Blue is so they down vote.

Stop using Lemmy > accepting russian propaganda.

It’s not a difficult choice to make, mate

Nutomic also said that trans identity was western propaganda and has doubled down on that statement several times.

Also nutomic is a transphobe

https://lemmy.ml/post/18761554

Which is reason enough to not give them any money in my book

@nutomic@lemmy.ml said I could donate directly to him since he doesn’t do as much moderation over there

Having observed a few different types of small team dynamics in my time, my speculation from a distance is that nutomic is the sensible one who does the bulk of the actual work, and dessalines is the other one.

He kind of has my sympathy and I do like Lemmy as software and it is clearly a good thing, but at the same time, at this point in the world if someone on your team is working to silence anyone who talks about Russia in unflattering terms, you can go fuck yourself as far as I am concerned. I am happy their instance is failing and I hope it keeps on failing until they stop doing legwork for murder, tyranny, rape, and torture. Honestly, “I wish my internet place had more users and people didn’t make fun of me so much” is a pretty mild negative consequence to experience from that.

I just instance blocked them, good riddance. Too bad I do occasionally have to see posts from their users on other instances.

Blahaj user

Shit calling the manure rank tbh

"Arguing against the far right party? That's a no-no for our leftist instance!"

In the USA their is only one party and that is the imperialist war mongering party

I think they really have no idea how unpopular their viewpoint is. If you ever go and look around at "Lemmy" based on how it looks when hosted on .ml or Hexbear, it looks pretty dramatically different. I think part of the reason the mods are so aggressive with this kind of censorship is that it creates a really surprisingly effective illusion that a lot of the world agrees with them. You can find off-instance communities where people post a counter-narrative if you search, but that's easy to write off as "the lib instances" or something. I think they have no idea how far in the minority they are.

The name for the cognitive bias involved is "what you see is all there is." Your brain doesn't take account of content which is hidden from you, so if 90% of what you see is pro-Russia, and everyone there is of the opinion that anything outside of that is weird Western propaganda and distorted and fake, it's pretty easy for your brain to run with it. And once you're in that box you have no idea that you're in the box. And also, a lot of propaganda frameworks like that are self-sustaining (describing any contrary information as deliberate lies or giving this huge emotional emphasis to reasons for discounting them, so it's really hard to bootstrap yourself out of the box.)

I'm not trying to make excuses for the people who are running the operation, I have to assume that they know better. Although, maybe not. Maybe they have some other kind of dysfunction and really think they are standing up against US imperialism or something. I do also think that professional troll farms are also involved in creating the impression, too. My point is, I think the average users may be genuinely confused by these events and see them very differently from the rest of Lemmy does.

Edited, but I wasn't aware it was needed for direct posts URLs, does it not work on your client if there's no exclamation mark?

Reverted

I think both the Lemmy main developers @nutomic@lemmy.ml and @dessalines@lemmy.ml are also the ml Admins. There are other contributors but none of them is doing this as their main job.

I'm a lemmy.ml user and I can confirm you won't see any communist propaganda on our instance. Communism was defined by Marx as stateless, and is therefore counterrevolutionary bourgeois propaganda. Us Marxist-Stalinists only support authoritarian socialism. If anyone tells you .ml is communist, they're spreading lies to make us look bad.

For sure, I only want to see capitalist propaganda.

Its not them being socialists thats the issue, its them supporting authoritarianism.

Haha ok. I would never be happy sitting behind some blockade on the fediverse, unable to even see what others are saying.

There's a difference between a veteran Lemming making a conscious choice to "see the other side for themselves" and a tentative-ex-Redditor checking the vibes of a new unknown place.

Its funny that you are so afraid of their opinions that you have to lock yourself in the basement. But you do you. :)

Lol, no. I've read their opinions, debated them multiple times even, and have come to the conclusion that their "opinions" are as toxic and/or dangerous misinformation as far-right "opinions". Authoritarianism is authoritarianism whether it's right or left shaded.

If anything, I'm afraid of the potential damage it's doing to the Lemmy-verse.

Every person that comes here, is another person Reddit has lost and another notch against corporate social media. And that's a beautiful thing worth protecting IMO

but when I discuss my Anarchist positions I see significantly less censorship than world.

What kind of censorship are you seeing? I usually don't hang there so I've only really seen their liberalist "anti-violence" suppression of Brian Thompson posting. Which honestly is enough reason to avoid, but I'm curious.

Also, agreeing from experience with the transphobia and hilarious ignorance of rabid anticommunists.

Granted I may be a bit biased as a leftist but when I discuss my Anarchist positions I see significantly less censorship than world. Furthemore whenever I see massive Transphobic spam attacks its 9/10 from world.

The modlog just doesn't reflect that, there's no widespread issue on .world as far as I've seen in all my time in the modlog.

What I do see from .world is a bunch of moderators doing moderator things and very little admin actions, which is what you would expect from any instance of size. It's the opposite with .ml, and that should be a huge red flag in of itself.

Are there bad mods and bad mod decisions? Sure, that's going to happen anywhere, but I don't see the .world admins in every comm across .world removing posts and comments critical of a certain agenda or to push a narrative, like on .ml.

As far as "transphobic spam attacks" that can happen on any instance, .world being the biggest (literally double in size from the next biggest) means it's going to be targeted more. And again, I see it being dealt with accordingly in the modlog, in fact that's one of the main times I do see non-.ml admin actions in there, site banning actual bigots.

Plus if .world really had a transphobe problem, ada would have defederated from it by now.

However I cannot say the same for world users/communities which are known to shut down discussion by calling it "tankie" (yes even Anarchist discussion).

Have you seriously not seen .ml tankies throw around "liberals" or "shitlibs" in the exact same way

significantly less censorship than world.

Haven't been on this comm much eh?

Really funny you had to make another account just to troll because .ml is blocked by so many

Those admins you say are hurting lemmy are literally the developers who made it.

We're all well aware, just because someone does something good does not give them a license to do whatever they want. Lemmy itself is apolitical, its code for a link aggregator type of social media, nothing more nothing less.

Also, fuck growth. It's the cancer that drives enshittyfication and destroys our planet.

Growth for the *sake of profit * is cancer yes, but growth of the Lemmy-verse and the Fediverse at large means a tiny bit less traffic on the cancer that is corporate centralized Social media