No evidence yet of Iran link to Hamas attack, says Israeli military
No evidence yet of Iran link to Hamas attack, says Israeli military
Iran has issued denials and US has said it has no direct knowledge of Iran being behind attack
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I still don't get how Mossad didnt know about this? Aren't they one of the best agencies around? I mean they invented Pegasus! How did they not know this attack was impending? Something had to have happened.
Or, counterpoint, they knew.
Either it was a case of the information not getting to the right people, or the right people wanted the attack to happen. After all, a very public and horrific attack justifies a lot of sadistic level disproportionate response, and said sadistic level disproportionate response gets the base riled up to vote for you again.
Or, counter-counterpoint, everyone and their dog knows that Israel is spying on everyone and their dog, so all communications by people planning this shit are kept to in person or paper. Anything that has to be transmitted electronically likely is said in code phrases that are agreed on in person.
The truth is likely a combination of all of it.
I dont know. Given that Israel is announcing constantly over the past days how they were hitting hundreds of Hamas targets, they claim to have a very detailled knowledge of where Hamas is. That also means that they must have had noticed increased activity, because all the material for the attack needs to get somewhere and at the latest they most have had noticed the buildup of fighters and demolition equipment on the morning of the attack.
So either they knew very well that the attack was prepared at the latest when it was imminent, or they are now lying about the targets and just lobbing bombs at random places now. But also i remember the videos of the soldiers being caught off guard when Hamas was storming their bases, which means a collossal fuckup in the warning chain or deliberate non information.
Egypt says they told Israel
Or, counter-counterpoint, everyone and their dog knows that Israel is spying on everyone and their dog, so all communications by people planning this shit are kept to in person or paper. Anything that has to be transmitted electronically likely is said in code phrases that are agreed on in person.
This has been standard practice for anyone involved in the intelligence world for over a century, so I would sure hope so!
It's still a huge intelligence failure, however, as infiltrating such groups is the primary focus of counter-intelligence organizations. This is also a long-standing practice, which is why all modern terrorist groups use compartmentalization to ensure nobody knows the entire plan.
Israel now have the clout from their own people and the US to do whatever they want. The phrase "never let a crisis go to waste" comes to mind.
They only have themselves to blame if you treat people like animals you dont get to be surprised if they turn around and bite you.
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Of course they knew. They want a reason to go to war
I wouldn't go so far as to say "of course" about it, Hanlon's razor still applies. But it's a scenario worth investigating.
Occam’s razor cuts sharper, here. I don’t think you can apply Hanlon’s razor to entities that we know are full of malice, as Israel is to the Palestinians.
I dont find it adequaetly explicable without malice. Israel has Gaza almost surrounded and exerts strong influence on Egypt and the border there too. The main task of the Mossad and IDF is to surveil and fend off Hamas and Hesbollah. And for Hamas the area to surveil is very small and they cant go anywhere else. Also Israel now claims hundreds of attacks on Hamas targets every day, which means they claim to know exactly where Hamas is. How can they not have noticed the buildup of material and forces necessary for such an operation?
You think the five eyes and Israel could have possibly missed the buildup to the largest Islamic terrorist incident ever? In Palestine? The most surveilled place on earth? There is absolutely no fucking way they didn’t know.
Also Egypt said they straight up told Israel so…