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Back in my day phones actually had the ports people wanted.
- But but my new phone is 3 microns thinner!
  Sure we lost all the ports people actually needed, but 3 microns man!
  
  3 microns thinner and 5 cm longer! oh you want to fit your phone in your pocket comfortably? how about you go fuck yourself
  
  But but my new phone is 3 microns thinner!
  If only. My Galaxy S8 from 2018 had a 3.5mm socket and it was thinner than my current iPhone 16e.

Still my criterion when looking to buy a phone.
- Any luck? Or have you been using a 10year old phone because the stupid phone manufacturers think following Apple is a good idea
  
  Sony Xperia is still going and has headphones jacks.
  
  I got an Asus zenfone 10 and it has one (and is also a small phone which is also hard to find now)
  
  The Samsung Galaxy A15 5G has an audio jack and is somewhat recent. It's a budget phone, though. The spec's aren't the best, but the price point is nice. If you wanted to listen to flac over wired headphones, that would work well.
  
  Samsung Galaxy Xcover 6pro has been pretty good for me. It has a headphone jack, SD card slot, and a removable battery. The specs aren't the top of the line, but as long as I'm not playing games on my phone it gets the job done.
  
  Sony if that's in your budget.
  edit: or Motorola if it isn't (check specific models, ymmv)
  
  Redmagic phones have very high specs and a jack
- My phone still has an aux jack : humble brag:
  It's a pixel 3a from at least 6 years ago :opposite of a humble brag:
  ...I actually love the shape and function of this phone. I only wish it had security updates, and didn't have Google.
  
  Pixel 4a here. Great phone, just in desperate need of a battery replacement. Checking ifixit the risk of breaking the display while opening the phone seems quite high :/
  
  isn't that pixel really well supported by postmarketos?

i miss my phone that also had FM radio built in.

I refuse to get a phone without a headphone jack. Mostly because I know I'm inevitably going to lose my headphones, forget to charge them, forget them in my trouser pockets that will go in the wash. The latter has happened at least a couple of times with my current headphones and they still work just fine. Try that with your Bluetooth pair and let me know how it goes.
- I just got a USB DAC for $12. If also has a type C pass through. It's so small it stays permanently attached to my wired headphones.
  It's a fairly complete solution tbh.
  
  I'm still rocking a 7-year-old Galaxy S9+. A few years ago my headphone jack wore out and the gapped hole no longer retains my earbud cable. Since then, I've been using a USB-C adapter, but the combined earbud and charging use is starting to take it's toll and the port is beginning to feel loose. I'm convinced that if I was limited to USB only over the full life of this phone, I would have lost wired headphone and wired charging capability a long time ago. I wish you well with your singular bottleneck port.
  
  My main issue with external DACs is how fast they drain my battery...
- My Bluetooth bone induction headphones survived a month in the bottom of a dishwasher.
  As soon as you stop having a cord get caught on everything in your life and get used to pausing/playing with a tap to the ear it all clicks.
  But yea the raycon/airpod models don't appeal to me.
  
  Yeah, I've gotten hooked on using either my hearing aids or my pauseable and microphone containing ear buds. Getting my phone out of my pocket to pause has become an annoyance
  
  Just run the wire through your shirt and they never catch and you have the added bonus of your shirt catching earbuds that fall out. Not only that, but your phone doesn't need to be charged halfway through the day.
  When I used wireless headphones, either my phone or headphones would die in the middle of a shift, even with my phone at 100% at shift start. With wired headphones, I'd still have 30-40% battery left even after long 10-12 hour shifts. Wireless just aren't worth the hassle between battery draining and running around looking where they roll after falling out of your ear.
  
  That’s impressive, do you remember which headphones those were?

Using mine right this very moment.

I still have one in my phone, and external SD card storage too. Another thing that they want gone (cloud storage agenda).
- I miss having an SD card slot...
  
  Me too, my guilty pleasure gacha game are only getting bigger. 64 gigs doesn't cut it anymore.

"Bro, look at this concept art of a cyborg girl listening to music with wireless earbuds! Wouldn't it be cool if you could have the same technology real life? Bro, just stop being a Luddite for two seconds, having to charge a second device is not a big inconvenience for looking like the future!"

I still have one, really don't want to get a new phone that doesn't. I still use my earbuds all the time

Sony Xperias have 3.5mm jacks again. A few of them are also supported by LineageOS and Sailfish OS, so you're not necessarily stuck in the Google ecosystem.
- They also have an SD card slot for those who feel the onboard storage isn't quite enough for their tastes.

A simple couple wires that work without pairing, without drivers, without 3 separate volume controls, and worked on the terribly complicated premise of inserting a plug into a hole. Next thing they'll try and say speakers need a dozen micro wires on a special propriety cable to do what they do better.
- without drivers
  All headphones have drivers :^)
  
  Man, what are you driving that you need headphones, all my cars have built in stereos...
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlear_implant

ITT: Apple customers think everyone is as bad at purchasing decisions as they are.

I’m going to do what I do in every thread mentioning a headphone jack: Say I don’t mind Bluetooth and get downvoted.
- BT is good, but anything wired is (and always will be) better and more reliable while being a little less convenient (with some exceptions)
  
  Unless I’m paying for $1600 audio cables my noise-damaged ears can’t tell the difference and I like that I don’t rip things out of them.
- imagine a time where phones have Bluetooth and and go on the aux
  
  The magical time of 2017, where devices could have Bluetooth 5 and a headphone jack.
- I have a genuine issue that I'd love to get your ideas on.
  When I am walking around with my bluetooth headphones in what I assume are places with lots of other signals, the audio goes to complete shit as if I'm on a bumpy road in a car listening to a super skippy CD.
  How can I avoid that? It works perfectly when I'm on a bus or at home..
  
  The only time I ever experience this with Bluetooth is when I'm a foot away or less from a running microwave. Or fifty feet away from the connection point. I've never had any other signals interfere, at least not that I notice.
  
  It depends. Had that issue a while back, personally found it was only when I was connected to 2.4 ghz wifi, which is the same frequency as Bluetooth. I haven't really had the issue on my current phone (except in areas where it's really windy), but it does have Bluetooth 5.0 so that might be part of it because it's a massive upgrade from Bluetooth prior.
  
  Be around fewer people.
- Good for you? I prefer having headphones I don't need to charge and that won't take my phone's only USB port, so while you personally might not find it useful, a use case for the 3.5mm jack clearly still exists.
- Every argument I have ever heard boils down to "in my specific use-case because of X Y Z and Purple, all the benefits of wired are irrelevant" and the people espousing such opinions don't at all take into consideration that other people exists and their specific use-case is not at all widely experienced.
  "My tinnitus means I can't distinguish high tones well" okay buddy, but how many other people enjoy distinct highs?
  "I move around too much so Bluetooth is the only practical solution" okay my friend, but many people either don't have that problem, or they've found a solution.
- "it works for my use case"
- I don't mind it either and do have both, but sometimes i get interference when i'm close to people (which is when i wanna to use the earphones) and i complain about the lack of the port not because bluetooth is shit, but because is importante to have the option
- I know a lot of people that lost their headphones, I don't have that issue.
  Also I'm a musician with pretty good custom IEMs. I have to use a very energy hungry external DAC (and while that I can't easily charge), if I wouldn't still have a jack (with a very good DAC)
- I had two generations of phones with never-used headphone jacks before I happened to get one without it. I almost got a Moto Z though.
- I'll do something similar.
  What headphones do you use on your Switch? Or on an airplane? Or a regional bus?
  How is the experience switching from your phone, to your laptop, to your tablet, to your Steam Deck?
- I gave you an upvote. I'm extremely happy with my BT ear buds.
  And my phone syncs up easily and quickly on anything I use. I literally just connected to a work truck that I haven't been in for months. Took 3 clicks of buttons to setup.

I regret buying one without it.
- I bought pixel 6a, mainly for graphene os but didn't install it because I wouldn't be able to use Google pay. My main things why I regret getting it is that there's no headphone jack and no SD card slot. Thought it wouldn't be that bad but... It is that bad. Next time I'm getting a phone once this goes bad I'm definitely getting headphone jack and SD card slot.
  
  Genuine question. What do you use the SD card slot for? I havent needed one in like 15+ years at least. But I don't do a lot on my phone.
- Same, sold it after a couple years and got one with a jack

I got a pair of wired earbuds for $20 at my drug store and the audio quality and build quality is really serviceable. I would probably have to pay at least $60 or $70 for a similar build and audio quality with Bluetooth earbuds.
- And this is the reason why apple and other companies jump on the trend. Many of these manufacturers also sell Bluetooth headphones and they want people to buy them instead of cheaper wired ones.
  Some of them make excuses but this is one of the primary reasons, and some of the excuses are so transparently stupid it isn't even funny. Like saying they removed it so people can use Bluetooth headphones (as if presence of the headphone jack prevents use of Bluetooth headphones 🙄).

get a 30 dollar dac. small and sounds much better, and its shielded.
- There is nothing that will ever be as good as the LG V20 was.
  Built in high-end DAC, removable battery, and the fucker came apart in 16 Phillips head screws.
  
  ir blaster! i still have a v20 with lineage OS but it is sluggish.

This exists, for anyone who would benefit
- There is a lot to be said about having less shit to keep track off
  
  Of course. But we do what we can with what we've got.
- If only there was a way to build that function directly into the phone.
  
  Bro we're consumers, not billionaires
- Adaptors & usb-c style headphones SUCK FUCKING ASS.
  The usb-c port is unreliable & gets dirty too easily & also they fall out a lot b/c it's so fucking shallow.
  Take your adaptor propaganda elsewhere, sir or ma'am!
  
  The thing I posted is lightning, not usb-c

Tell me about it! I still buy IEM's because of their incredible sound, yet I have to use dongle for my main phone. IEM brands have been also producing USB-C outputs, but yet not good IMO.
\ Lucky that I have an LG-vq40, which has audio jack, so I use it as a audio device. Thicker phone than my main, yet has audio jack.
- Yeah it's sad that LG didn't maintain that niche of high quality DAC jack phones. Also still stuck with my V30...

I'm really mad that they removed my external antenna. Used to be, you could get better replacement antennas for your phone, or even replace a damaged one. All it takes is one bump or jiggle the wrong way, and the internal antenna for your phone gets disconnected, and now you need an entirely new phone. Removing the antenna socket was a cost cutting measure for phone manufacturers that ensures you have to replace the device earlier. Remember your first antenna phone? It probably lasted 5 years. Modern smartphones get churned out every 18 months. They've played us for fools.
- My mom had a cool one that flashed when she got a phone call

The headphone jack of my phone is still virgin.

wait, we need to dig it up and get our headphone jacks back. location, depth?