The full guide to switching from big US tech to supporting more ethical and EU-based companies! (Redone with OSs added)
The full guide to switching from big US tech to supporting more ethical and EU-based companies! (Redone with OSs added)
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Some really weird suggestions.
Free Software does not have a country of origin.
- NixOS, uBlue, AerynOS poorly all rely on Github (Microsoft), but are far better distros than Ubuntu or Mint
- Librewolf is better than Waterfox and way more common
- Ecosia uses Bing, Kagi uses Yandex and is shady. Metager, SearX, Swisscows and more are actually good
- Android, iOS -> GrapheneOS. No iodeOS, they are insecure and not comparable. Same for Fairphone and /e/OS. GrapheneOS is free software but also mainly in the US
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This guide is weird. It suggests to replace US products by other US products
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sometime it’s better, for example signal is more popular as an alternative and value more privacy. But if you want to go a step further then you can go use less popular tools.
I didn’t switch yet because I don’t own replace messenger and whatsapp by 3-4 new product..
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I think federated vs cetralised should be a classification for social media platforms
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SoundCloud always missing wtf???
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WTF!!!!!!'
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Lol 😂
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Profit Share missing for Ecosia.
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The incomplete guide...
Cryptpad, ONLYOFFICE, Fennec, Mullvad Browser, Librewolf, Thunderbird, FairEmail, SimpleX, Lemmy, PeertubeBluesky? Wtf
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Very true. Good products
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I cannot recommend Internxt their software and servers are buggy.
The desktop app (on Linux at least) would give lots of errors and refuse to upload files. In addition some uploaded files were corrupted when trying to download them.
I like their idea and philosophy but at the moment their excecution is quite poor making the product unrealiable.
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Is there a European Netflix or Youtube?
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I think its called BitTorrent.
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the legend is incomplete. what's red? what's the globe icon? how come some products marked not majority EU owned have the EU flag?
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I will try to answer these, and hope someone corrects any potential innaccuracy:
what's red?
There is a comment there saying "see deep-dive for details" so the red-highlight caveat is likely explained there.
what's the globe icon?
My assumption is that icon just indicates Free/Open-Source projects which have no "owning company" (not "based" anywhere), just globally scattered contributors.
how come some products marked not majority EU owned have the EU flag?
My guess (merely a guess) is that those are run by EU-based companies, but which don't have a solid policy guaranteeing "majority of shareholders are in the EU" (...?)
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how come some products marked not majority EU owned have the EU flag?
The EU flag is used here for the whole Europe (see the top-right corner), but "not majority EU owned" is specifically looking at the EU, which is very confusing. So Vivaldi being Norwegian and Canonical being British stick out.
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I think the hardest part are mobile OS 😔
Beside : eOS, sailfish and postmarket we have a long way...-
Yes, but it turns out you can do a lot of 'switching' even if you can give up on android or iOS straight away. I follesdd this guide for degoogling my Samsung, not done yet but feels like I made some good changes: https://androides.nl/degoogle-guide/
Though large part is already covered by switching services / apps
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You do a great job! 👏 Thank you!
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Isn't Waterfox quite slow on the updates?
I've been using LibreWolf, but I've been meaning to try out Zen
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Zen has quite a steep learning curve, especially wjith workspaces and such. It’s a cool concept, but I switched back to Librewolf out of convenience and a leaner ux.
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Sadly there's no librewolf on mobile.
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there's IronFox
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OpenSuse👉Here is explained: https://privsec.dev/posts/linux/choosing-your-desktop-linux-distribution
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Simplex
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I prefer Only Office (Desktop Version) to Libre Office, because
- it does not look like over 20 year old Office 2003
- it uses docx and xlsx as native format which makes it easier for noobs
I heared Only Office has some Russian connections. Otherwise it still is Open Source.
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Onlyoffice uses Electron, which uses an outdated and seldomly updated version of Chromium 😵
It would be good if they could support QtWebengine or WebkitGTK, or if the Linux Desktops could start to support a single webview-like runtime
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@Wrdlbrmpfd @FallenWalnut Why don’t you try Free Office? It has a free tier and it’s German.
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Seems ok, but it seems to be a dowgraded version from a commercial product. If there is a good Open Soruce product, I prefer that.
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Great guide, thanks! Will start converting (where not already through with it).
Maybe someone can help with this topic: Is there any EU-based live map service (including traffic jams and road work and the likes)? I already use OSM but that doesn't (can't by design as far as I know) include live information.
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Try Here We Go (https://wego.here.com/), it is owned by a bunch of car companies.
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@FallenWalnut
Bookmarked and boosted!
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I do not want to start a discussion about Linux since I'm no expert and a million of Linux experts will know better.
But don't all the suggested distros here (as well any user friendly ones in general) rely on the kernel written by Torvald's team. With that team being based in the US and at least Linus himself having acted as a three letter agency asset before, can they really be called privacy friendly or even secure? (I'm talking about the CIA or NSA having had a backdoor into Linux in the past and Linus also having banned Russian contributions last year while not banning American contributions, much less moving the operation outside of the US)
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