Adobe Gets Bullied Off Bluesky

Deserved. Fuck Adobe!

Some brilliant people invented photoshop
It was a good product but expensive
Some asshole coke head CEO decided to make it more expensive and worse.
Fuck adobe.
GIMP 3 FTW
- And they bought Macromedia’s suite and destroyed it.
  
  I miss macromedia flash so bad, actionscript for life
  
  RIP Fireworks...
  
  That's what big tech companies do, they buy small and promissing companies they think that once can become a competitor and then.... destroy it. The young startups just take the money and can retire early.
  
  And they bought Cool Edit and destroyed it.
  
  And they bought Paintshop pro and destroyed it
- GIMP 3, Krita, Darktable, Inkscape, Kdenlive
  
  if you poke around graphic design as a hobby, these might be fine, but not for professional use from what I've read :/
  e.g. apparently Inkscape still can't really do CMYK
  
  Blender
  
  Photopea, Shotcut
- I use Affinity Suite for work. Paid for it once, have it forever. Free updates until new editions, which are discounted if you own an older edition. Buy it for one platform (Windows), that's a license for that edition of any other platform too. AND they regularly go on special, often to 50% off.
  It doesn't have AI content generation, but it does a few things Adobe doesn't - like being able to use Photo and Designer from INSIDE Publisher, seamless like its a single program!
  Affinity Photo (Photoshop), Designer (Illustrator), and Publisher (InDesign). Then Krita for raster illustration. That's all I need as a professional
  
  I have some artist friends who saw the writing on the wall after Adobe told Apple to fuck off with the iPad and Affinity said hold my beer. One owns her own publishing company and as of a few years ago all new projects were Adobe-free workflows. She still has Adobe but will only use it for older shit that might still need something later. Going forward, she (and therefore her entire operation) are fucking done with Adobe. Another friend learned both so he could adapt to whatever the market has in store for him and since the market sucks for artists he’s going freelance too and has said absolutely no to Adobe.
  Adobe is officially legacy software. Vendor lock in won’t save it as the creatives don’t need industry titans to survive.
- I (distantly) knew an indie software developer who was putting up a pretty good Photoshop alternative in 1996: ONE GUY alone in his bedroom was making a decent living selling a Photoshop alternative that he wrote himself. And he wasn't exactly a super-wunderkind coder, just a guy who knew the photo manipulation space well enough to get enough customers to float selling his software for a few years - in direct competition with Photoshop.
  Adobe isn't selling magic dust ground from precious gemstones by thousands of artisans. They had a decent product that they marketed the hell out of and eventually got overly greedy.
  GIMP, Krita, and many others are right up there if you haven't been sucked into the Adobe addiction vortex.
  
  Krita is awesome with a drawing pad
  And I'm not like even good at doing anything
  
  I use GIMP, but you can't compare it to Photoshop. GIMP has a horrible GUI and it has very strange design choices.
  The Affinity suite is comparable to Photoshop, but it's a paid product.
- Photopea represent
  
  Affinity Photo for me!
  I'd prefer FOSS but...GIMP ain't it.
  Have used Photopea in* a bind in the past, it's also pretty good especially the clone GUI.
  
  Krita is my graphics app of choice these days. But there are many alternatives that are great (like Gimp and Photopea).
- I still remember when they bought Macromedia Flash and all my animator friends and I simply couldn't stand Adobe Flash CS3 or whatever it was called. It used more resources, crashed more often and didn't exactly bring anything revolutionary to the table in terms of new functions.
- Big GIMP fan. That being said, Adobe needs to start promoting some of their actually good stuff, like their investment in the open C2PA spec for proving content authenticity, vs constant AI crap that is the exact opposite.
- I feel like I should have switched to GIMP a decade ago.
  
  The best time to switch was 10 years ago. The second best time to switch is right now.
- Some brilliant people invented photoshop
  So the real question is whether Photoshop might ever have become successful, if Adobe hadn't bought it.
  
  It sure is.
- Ok, so I've tried gimp in the past, but had a hard time with it. Honestly, my Photoshop skills are mostly self taught (and not all that impressive), but that's the interface I know. How similar to Photoshop can one make the interface in gimp these days? Because that's probably my biggest hurdle.
  
  Gimp is a little steeper learning curve but if you already know photoshop it’s not that bad.
  The tricky thing is knowing what to do when you get stuck. Luckily they wrote a manual that assumes you’re only reading the manual because you got stuck and you’re so frustrated you’re actually reading the manual.
  Gimp3 just launched and it’s really nice.
  And free.
  
  Check out PhotoGIMP
- Bluesky has a lot of artists. Posting this video here: https://youtu.be/I4mdMMu-3fc
- Gimp sucks. Krita is way better.
  
  They have different purposes.

We should all be bullying companies more.. Less bullying people and more bullying companies and orgs!!
Yes people make up a company blah blah blah.. Don't care. Just don't bully the people working there.
- And billionaires, especially the Nazis variety.
  I quite enjoyed Elon getting bullied over POE2 stream.
  
  Oh Nazis deserve to just be punched (nonstop).
  You heard the time Elon was told to go back to Africa. That was hilarious.
  
  So, cyberbullying and toxic gamer communities are very much a thing and definitely a problem, but I have to admit, that story really did make day... I laughed for a while, I shared it with my neighbors, it's still fucking funny!
  You know, the thing is... the whole mess was entirely Elon's fault. If he just wanted an escape from his stressful life, he could totally just play the game and it would work out fine for him. But because he felt the narcissistic need to live stream it (because he apparently desperately needs others to tell him how awesome he is), he got his stupid face kicked into the mud. And that's really on him...
  
  Followed by his Starlink connection dropping out.
  
  Bullying a bully is not bullying.
  
  huh I definitely didn't delete this
- Every company I've ever worked for deserves to be bullied.
  Honestly that's letting the bastards running those companies get off light
- The leadership (is supposed to) represent the people, the people do not represent the leadership. Israelis do not represent the Israeli government. Employees of a Meta subsidiary do not represent Meta, Facebook, or Zuckerberg. Don't attack McDonald's employees because the burger is more expensive, YouTube employees because the content preys on children or residents/soldiers of a country because the government decides to mobilise its army against another community. Employees are just victims of capitalism, just working there because they must, irrespective of politics.
  
  Well yeah I said leave the people working there alone and target the corp or org. And my reasons are what you just outlined in great detail. They are victims of capitalism.
- Just don't bully the people working there.
  What if they're C-suite
  
  Key word is "working" people. C-Suite don't work, just tell others to work.
  
  They aren't people, they are demons. So my rule still stands 🤣
- Who do you think should be next?
  
  Boycott all shitty companies.. We make a list and we keep adding shitty companies to the list and present a list of alternatives.

A top reply was posted on another lemmy community:
https://lemmy.world/post/27989752
I can't see any screenshots from the article, all require a bluesky account. At least on twitter you could see images without login before the takeover. I'm alright if a for profit websites hides "their" content behind a login wall, it's their choice, but how lazy is this "journalism" where they don't copy the images, they just link to the original tweets or whatever they called on bluesky.
- That's weird. The bluesky links in the article work fine for me, and I don't have a bluesky account.
  Ahh hang on, this one doesn't work but all the rest do
  https://bsky.app/profile/megzavala.bsky.social/post/3lmdz2tu6xk2x
  Ahh here we go: it's a user made setting not a bluesky one
  "Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author."
  
  Ahh here we go: it's a user made setting not a bluesky one
  "Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author."
  Why would a user choose to enable that? Would that make it less likely to be scraped by a bot?
- TBH it's better journalism to include the link, but they could do both.
  
  Source can be destroyed. An alternative screenshoot backup/proof is good measure. Especially in web its better to not depend on an outside server.
  Like if they close (or some billionaire buy them and requires an account for everything), your content becomes worthless.
- Not you. take CURSE OF RA [7 lines of incromprehensible egyptian hyroglyphs]
  Best reply to a greeting by Adobe
- Bleets?
  
  Skeets
  
  Lol, the article says skeet, but I like yours better.
  
  The Sheeples bleat on BlueSky?
- I can’t see any screenshots
  how lazy is this “journalism” where they don’t copy the images
  Images of web content usually break accessibility (implicit ableism) unless alt text is provided, which really amounts to a poor substitute for embedding content, block quoting, or linking to source (what the web was made for), where no alt text is needed because the actual text is there.
  Stop breaking accessibility: oppose inaccessible screenshots of accessible content.
  
  No
  Please stop with the "ablism" thing to shut down anything good but not good enough.
  If I can't see the info on bluesky without an account then yes, a screenshot should be required. Bluesky content can be deleted, but a screenshot stays.
  Yes, I know that some people need screen readers and yes, we can improve upon this by, I dunno, making an image format for screenshots that allow for alt text or whatever.
  What is not helpful is calling people tomstip using a normal day to day tool just because it isn't perfectly adjusted for < 1% of the Internet users.
  To be really clear about it, I'm not saying I don't care about them, I'm saying you shouldn't throw around insults just because someone didn't do a standard task perfect enough for everyone, or mostly: you

I was so happy to help in ensuring it ocurred

adobe will charge you $20 a month to read their skeets then charge a $100 cancellation fee if you want to stop following them.
- what are skeets
  
  Slang term for ejaculating, usually with some projectile distance implied. Very popular term in the mid-2000's, see Get Low by Lil Jon.
  
  Tweets, but BSky. It's gross on purpose because the devs didn't want it to catch on and they Streisand'd. They've since embraced it lmao.
  
  Apparently tweets, but on bluesky
  
  I’m guessing blue sky version of tweets
- It's $20 for the readers bundle, $1289 per year if you want to see photos and comment.

i like how i didn't even know they were on bsky because they're already added to the The Great AI/NFT/CRYPTO Cull blocklist.
- great, cant view it because it wants me to log in...
  
  It's not "it" that wants you to log in, the devs created the site to be entirely public. but users demanded an option to hide their profiles from logged out users. Any hidden posts are because the user explicitly set the flag in their own settings
  The api endpoints are still public btw. Third party clients can see these profiles just fine :| not a fan of that decision tbh
  
  heh, not a local problem, even archive.org captured it: https://web.archive.org/web/20250411034219/https://bsky.app/profile/rayday.bsky.social/lists/3jxwojift2y2n
  fuck you, bluesky! knew all the time you are not a little bit better than twitter & co

Why dont they get bullied on X as well?
- Consider X's current audience and you'll have your answer

They started it by pretending to want to connect with artists.
- by charging them alot for using thier services.

Greatjob Bluesky, One less Adobe monopoly

These days, bullying is used for good.

- Honestly nah, there are lots of other good options. Support the devs and people fueling real creativity rather than staying in Adobe's ecosystem, paid or not.
  
  Honestly nah, there are lots of other good options.
  Unfortunately as someone who uses Adobe programs for work, the FLOSS alternatives are just not there yet :/ (especially considering how seamlessly Adobe programs work together)
  
  I use Affinity these days. Although it being purchased by Canva has me very worried.
  
  Exactly this.
- On macOS I found that getting Photoshop to stay cracked was a hassle. This didn't make me buy Photoshop, it just made me use something else.
  
  I dumped Adobe completely several years ago, and found that Pixelmator has been an excellent Photoshop replacement. It even now does vector images - used to use an app called Graphic for that (for an Illustrator replacement), but should now be able to do all of that from Pixelmator.
  
  I had a legit copy of CS6 for my windows computer, then switched to Mac and was unable to get a copy for it so I kept my windows laptop around for graphic design.
  It died and now I use Affinity on my Mac and iPad.
  
  Yeah, I used Adobe CS3 on the Mac for a very long time, because I may have had the activation key for my college's site license...
  That never gave me any trouble. But using other keys or cracks, a real pain in the ass.
- Top meme
- Had me at the first 1/10th.
- Any Lightroom classic alternative?
  
  In the theme of above lightroom classic (cracked)
  Otherwise not really. You're looking at digiKam for the library management side and either RawTherapee or Darktable for editing.
  
  Rawtherapee or darktable for example.

I see you there random Krita user! Shill baby, shill!
Video Source on Bluesky
- #adobyephotoslop
  Roffflllll

im still rockin a cs6 version. works fine on w11ltsc. fuck the cloud and fuck ai.
- I remember reading a story a while back about someone who owned a legit CS version with a proper serial and activation.
  They had to change computer, and in doing so had to reactivate Photoshop, but it wasn't working. They contacted Adobe support and explained the situation but support basically told him nope, not a chance, we aren't helping you. You need to subscribe to new Photoshop.
  So Adobe accepted that yes, he bought a perpetual licence for Photoshop and that yes, the reason it isn't working is the online activation, but they still refused to help.
  Scumbags.
  
  yupp, its not possible anymore. you have to crack your your own bought photoshop.
- I have to open PDFs all day long at work to read our schematics. No I don't want an "AI assistant" or an "AI summary" on drawings of electrical wiring. And I need to close multiple menus to get rid of them, and the only option is "disable for this session", no way to permanently turn them off

What would be a good alternative to Adobe After Effects ? Something that works in the same way.
- I only used kdenlive an open source Video editor, I do not know how similar it is to AE though. With kdenlive I can …
  cut and arange video snippets in a timeline
  apply effects like transform/lens (many more) to video
  I can apply simple audio effects with the pitch effect, or generate white noise. Slow down Video
  they have AI-effects and audio editing in their roadmap …
  Sounds similar to AE from what I read on its wiki entry
  
  That is a video editor much like Adobe Premier or Final Cut Pro, so would not be a replacement for AE. After Effects is essentially Photoshop but with motion and animation. It's mostly for VFX and Motion Graphics. Not video editing or audio.
  
  I use Blender for video editing, and as long as I never use another video editing package, I am sure to remain perfectly happy with Blender.
  
  Thanks for sharing, This might be good enough in the future looking at the roadmap.

Same thing happened with Proton.
- proton did it to themselves by embracing the us and their fascist leader.
  
  And the CEO just did it again, because apparently it wasn’t enough backlash the first time.
  
  I assume that's the VPN proton and not the linux compatibility layer proton, right?

Is it possible to learn such sorcery ?

I've replaced my Adobe Audition with Reaper. I do recommend it
- I didn't, but I do want more people to switch to Reaper so that they can get more money and keep getting better.
- Finally lost my reaper purchase after nearly 15 years. Remember when buying it at uni thinking of been a bit hard done by I was only supported till like version 7

I know Curse of Ra will get old if it isn't already for some, but it's my favorite stupid meme currently.
- Praise be unto RA, destroyer of Brands!

Can't think of a more deserving company

Thanks just spent a lot tow time over telling Adobe where to go. Great way to vent. Whose next?

FAFO

Time to test out Armor Paint this weekend then.

"So much for the tolerant left"
*Do you guys get this is supposed to be adobe saying it? whatever I guess I need a stupid \s or something
- I must be some galaxy brain to understand you!
  Don't worry I thought it was funny.
  
  Hey as long as I break even it's a win

From being digitally issued the "curse of RA"
Lmao

Hell yeah, they deserve it.

Ha ha!

I know Adobe is a dick of a company but all this event shows is how toxic Bluesky is. Seems the toxicity joined them from X.
- I don't necessarily agree that this means blue sky is toxic (and I'm speaking as someone who doesn't use the app), I see it as a toxic company finding out what people think of them.
  As you noted adobe is a dick (and that's one hell of an understatement), and they regularly make anti-consumer choices with their software and pricing. This is just them seeing what you've been ignoring for a decade or more.
  Maybe the multi billion dollar company should ~~grow~~ subscribe to my monthly subscription to thicker skin.
  
  I reckon it would have been far sweeter if they were completely ignored IMHO. 1000% more brutal. Toxic people tend to need to put it out there.
- No shit. It's like people who join Lemmy and then complain when it's too much like reddit. The design of the platform determines what kind of community you get. People on Bluesky are going to bully corpos because that's what they did on Twitter, and both of those platforms make it really, really easy.
  
  My point is the claimed narrative it isn't as bad as X. To me it seems the only difference is the person running the show.
  But then you look at mastodon instances and there is no where near that level of behaviour.
  Hell Lemmy is pretty civil if you block hexbear.

Ooooo nostalgia. Who remembers the time of Aldus Freehand and Aldus Pagemaker, Quark XPress and Ventura Publisher. Those where the days :-) 😍

If one isn't a total nutcase who can pass every left wing social purity test ever devised you will be bullied off of Bluesky. Just like if you cannot do the same in reverse with right wing purity tests on Twitter.
Adobe sucks, but Bluesky is trash as well. Which should have been expected considering it is a Twitter clone.
- Jesus Fucking Christ man… is this really how you see the world?
  
  OP’s being abrasive, but I sympathize with the sentiment. Bluesky is algorithmic just like Twitter.
  …Dunno about Bluesky, but Lemmy feels like a political purity test to me. Like, I love Lemmy and the Fediverse, but at the same time mega upvoted posts/comments like “X person should kill themself,” explulsion of nuance in specific issues, leaks into every community and such are making me step back more and more.
- Where you bullied of Bluesky for saying something they didn't like?
  
  Nah, I left before it got that bad when I noticed I was being blocked and put on mass "block lists" with MAGA folk for saying the Democrats are just as much to blame for Trump as the Republicans are.
- Agree that BlueSky is trash, but it's more of a shitlib echo chamber. I agree though that the problem is largely intrinsic to the structure. Public microblogging and its consequences have been a disaster for humanity etc.
  
  Funny you mention that, I was just reading this 2019 article on starbreaker about the hard limits of public microblogging as we've been reproducing it over and over, even here on the fediverse.
  It's kind of got under my skin.
- It's pretty easy in both places actually, just don't talk about politics.
  Turns out our Grandparents were pretty damn smart with that "Don't talk about Religion and Politics" rule.
  
  Your Grandparents had a Nazi problem that was never resolved as a result of "Not talking politics". One cannot resolve bad politics or religion by ignoring it until it goes away.
  
  "Three things you should never talk about at work: politics, religion, and seggs." Ageless advice.

Per screenshots of the "skeet," as folks on the butterfly app are wont to call their posts
What the fuck is this word salad?
- English.
  The word that's throwing you off is probably wont
  wont
  
  (archaic or humorous) One's habitual way of doing things; custom, habit, practice.
  
  yeah, that one threw me for a loop and I consider my vocabulary to be fairly decent. I just assumed it was missing the apostroph to make it "won't". Thanks for clearing that up
  
  Is this some word that's commonly used in some English speaking countries? I'm a native speaker and have never heard or seen this word ever being used.
- That's not word salad.
  
  How is it not? It makes absolutely no sense.
- It's okay to admit that you don't understand what is being said. That doesn't make it "word salad"
  
  The fact that it's seemingly a bunch of random words crammed together in a sentence makes it "word salad".
- As seen in the screenshot of the "skeet" (BlueSky post), as users of BlueSky like to call their posts.
  It looks like perfectly cromulent English to me.
- I'm in the UK this week, it's how they talk. It's fun but can be difficult understanding what someone actually means 30 seconds later
- bluesky tweet