Trump threatens 'far larger' tariffs if EU and Canada unite to do 'economic harm' to the U.S.
Trump threatens 'far larger' tariffs if EU and Canada unite to do 'economic harm' to the U.S.
“If you guys damage the US economy, I will do even more damage to the US economy.”
—stable genius
Trump fucks everything up forcing nations to find other economic alternatives then says I will destroy you if you work together. This is the plot of a bad 70's comic book.
Once people find or develop those alternatives they wont be back for at least a few generations. Trump doesn't understand that other countries can and will find a replacement for US goods and if necessary US customers. I'm sure though some who are in the right position are ready to exploit this for their own gain. Trump is more than a fool he is a tool.
He can not seem to grasp that your enemy is allowed to fight back and if you make enemies of friends eventually that is all you will have.
He can not seem to grasp
...anything, really. And his closest henchmen know this well, too! Just read the entire chat on Signal.
They're just using him because he pulls (or used to pull) public consensus, while working around his bullshits.
He's just gone. Nothing's going on upstairs. I sometimes think of an ancient clip of Ali G trying to sell him some kind of ice cream glove and there was enough brainpower to realize it was bullshit and try to get out of that situation. Now tho, there is nothing there. He doesn't grasp the most basic things.
President musk really need to stop Trump from talking
The word is "crybully"
Putin's idiot cuck.
Classic bully / troll behavior. Always the aggressor yet also always the victim.
Must be nice he learned from russia
Im thinking there’s another country he wants to be besties with.
standard sexual abuser.
He has concepts of what he's trying to do
I'm not condoning it, but he sees this his original actions as retaliation. Or purports to see this as retaliation. Sigh.
Edit for clarity
Just like how Putin sees Russia's invasion of Ukraine as retaliation, or claims to. Great minds think alike, I guess.
Another year of this, and these threats will carry about as much weight as North Korea threatening you with sanctions.
Next year will be the effects of this year yeah. This shit is a slow motion genocide like a giant molasses flood.
US: Bashes Canada for no reason. Starts a trade war.
Canada: Makes new trade partners.
US: Canada how dare you find other trade partners! Come back here so I can bash you again!
It's like he can't comprehend that other people would react to his actions.
He raised tariffs, other nations reduced trade with the US and looked elsewhere. If he continues to raise tariffs it will inevitably cause the US to be isolated in trade.
It's not even a shocking/daring tactic, it's a self destructive tantrum because his misunderstanding has led to mismanagement and now he's doubling down
This doubling down is really telling...
It's like someone showed him a plastic toy mallet and it's the only tool he's aware of in his toolbox.
It's a move to spur domestic manufacturing and move the US to Autarky — straight out of Hitler's playbook; albeit an incompetent attempt because he's a mentally challenged degenerate.
Autarky isn't bad — covid highlighted the weaknesses that capitalism and globalism created for every economy — but Trumps goals are not risk mitigation or "national security", and he certainly intends for it to enable imperialist wars and conquests. The fact is the allies won WW2 largely because of US manufacturing capacity (Europes was destroyed). China could take Taiwan tomorrow and the world would have to let them as we are entirely reliant on Chinese manufacturing; they could cripple us if they halted exports.
I agree with almost everything here, but I don't think an embargo on China would be as damaging as you think it would.
It would hurt, don't get me wrong, but China is largely in the position it is now because the developed world was looking for cheap labour and China fit the bill. There is no lack of underdeveloped nations who would gladly shift their economy if it meant they could support a fraction of the manufacturing supply that China currently commands. Africa and South America (not a single nation, I know but this is true of many African and South American nations so I'm combining for simplicity's sake) is positioned both politically and geographically, to be a sudo-China in terms of manufacturing if the wider world decides to embargo China-proper.
The US and EU pulling out of China would devastated them far more than it would affect the former. I'd like to think that the EU at least, would be willing to withstand some economic damage to aid another nation in need.
For many years I have argued that Putin's actions in Ukraine and Europe "make sense" based on the assumption that no country in the world actually has agency in its actions other than a handful of superpowers - Russia, the US, and China. Any other country not on that list must be a vassal state of one of the ones that is, so if the Eastern European countries are no longer Russian vassals then that must logically mean they are now American vassals.
It would appear that Trump is under a similar delusion. He's apparently trying to beat countries into submission that he views as already being American vassals. Hence why he thinks stuff like the "51st state" garbage is no big deal, since in his view Canada's already 90% of the way to being a state anyway.
I agree. He seems to think countries should be paying tribute to the US.
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree. I don't see any evidence for this vassal worldview (apart from extreme cases like Belarus and Russia). Without that first assumption the whole premise falls apart.
Even assuming the main characters (MC) and vassals idea is true to reality, the rest of the argument is flimsy at best. Even if a MC loses a vassal through mismanagement or foreign interference, that doesn't automatically mean that the vassal has a new MC overlord. They could be in a limbo state where some of the MCs are vying for control.
As for Trump, I think it's much less of a stretch to assume that Trump loves the sound of his own voice and what better way to hear his own voice than to create sound bites, hence the 51st state nonsense. If anything Trump's actions say to me that he has NO capacity for the mental mapping required to envision this kind of complex interweaving of interests and angles that is geopolitics. I find it even less likely that this is the one he would subscribe to.
I just hope that the EU and other major powers blacklist Yarvin's Cabal from living or operating in their territories. The 1%'s money is tainted, as it would surely be used to corrode and destroy countries as it had the US.
it will inevitably cause the US to be isolated in trade
That's the goal. He isn't a Kremlin asset, he is a Pyongyang asset, implementing Juche in the US ;)
do economic harm to the US
.... Like the economic harm you're doing to Europe and Canada?
You're literally that bully that's starts screaming "don't hit ME!" when the victims punch back
I would be surprised if Donald hadn't done precisely that in its childhood.
Isn't trump the one actually pushing economic harm to the US? Maybe he should look into that.
Yes, he's creating chaos so that robber barons can capitalize on it to grow their own wealth at the cost of everyone else's
He's destroying international relationships to remove US superpower status, to give more regional hegemony to Russia and China (probably just Russia, China gets it for free).
And he's displacing the US dollar as the global currency. Contributes to the first two items and has long term effects on their global hegemony.
He (like Putin) is afraid of the EU. He won’t be able to take Canada if they are allied with the EU
do it, cunt. the US relies on the EU and its neighbors way more than they rely on the US. you don't even make shit anymore, and whatever you do make isn't up to standards anyway. no one needs the US.
The only thing the US exports is tax avoiding, minimum viable product supplying, data collection companies.
Not only does the rest of the world not need that shit, they're better off without it.
Fuck the US and everything it has come to stand for.
Canada, all you have to do is outlast us, then buy us up for cheap once Trump decides to give up.
And by “economic harm” what he means is asking for a deal that suits him and fucks the other country over.
Edit; had to rewrite this cause I said Trumps deals would be fair.
By "economic harm" he means don't try to stop me. Don't fight back. Just take it like a good little victim.
I totally ballsed that up. I’m going to have change it.
The only person doing economic harm to the US is him.
Oh now we just GOTTA unite with Canada!
"only I can do economic harm to the U.S!!!!!!!!!!"
Please destroy our economy… I really want to buy a house.
I really don't think that's how it works. Like no one has ever sold their house below market to such an extent that one would run to buy it. That makes no sense. If you lose your house, it goes to the bank.
Think about what you're saying. The market value fluctuates over time. Right now US housing is artificially inflated because of monopolies and rampant real estate speculation. When it tanks, it could tank hard and fast, and it might never get back to current levels. Nobody knows. And that is the time when tens of millions of Americans would love to buy homes.
I can see you weren’t around when the fallout of 08 happened. Read some articles about the 08 crash. With all of these people losing their jobs, you don’t think there will be ramifications to that? The job market is complete shit right now, more people looking than jobs available. The dominoes have been tipped and are starting to fall. The sooner you realize that the better you will be on the recovery. There’s a bad moon rising and trouble is on the way.
but banks dont want houses. they want the balance of the loan. in a moderate recession realestate will get auctioned fast and low.
I was lucky enough to be able to leverage a VA loan, and had a solid and secure job during the 2008 recession, which is the ONLY reason I was able to buy a home. Ever.
I couldn't do it today. Not 3 years ago during "The bestest economies evar!" Not 6 years ago while the admin was "Making American Great Again"...
Nope, it was because of a recession, so houses sat on market for 4 or 5 months. Almost any offer was being taken. I even talked the seller down 9K on my home. That's how bad it was.
There has never been a president like donald.
But it's gonna be interesting all the way to the wild west.
Keep doing what you are doing Europe and Canada
This.
Bring it on Trumpet, USA can't stand upto EU's economic power
Threatening to throw a tantrum if one's opponents gang up, is only an admission of vulnerability and an invitation for opponents to gang up quicker.
Besides, the EU has already held consultations with China (which got a tariff raise last month) about how to adapt to the situation. Both have previously used response strategies aimed at Trump's support bases. They'll do it without hesitation.
And if Trump is going to enact "far larger" tariffs against every big trade partner, he'll knock the US economy into a recession.
Irrefutable logic:
A -> B
I don’t like B, therefore more A.
This is such dumb shit. I wish his father hit him more as a child. It wouldn't have beaten the stupid out of him but maybe he'd be quieter
Donald should have been punched in the mouth when he was a teenager. All his rich classmates at boarding school are to blame.
Agreed.
A good walloping may not fix stupid, but it sure could muffle the sound!
Yet another thing that is beyond our willfully ignorant American Republican's comprehension.
Adults cooperate with others who are open to mutually beneficial cooperation. Babies (and largely seniors past 70 as we become very similar to our sunrise at the sunset of life) kick and scream demanding to get their way the way they want it.
I'm a 40 year old manchild who collects movie props and even I know that.
What piece in your collection are you the most proud of?
The one that started it all.
In 1999 Blockbuster video had a contest, giving away 1 full size episode 1 Yoda made by Industrial light and magic in every state. I didn't know about the contest until the last day, put in my entry, and he's been looking over my room, now office, ever since, keeping me contemplative ever since.
Either that or a trap used in Ghostbusters 2 that I had signed by Dan Aykroyd. But probably Yoda.
The original life-size mechanical t-rex from the first Jurassic Park movie.
Please don’t include all seniors. While I can’t speak for all seniors, I am very much from a generation that took to the streets fighting against social injustice. PLEASE don’t generation shame/blame. It’s just another divide and conquer tactic.
The world: American tariffs mean we have to de-integrate with the USA and connect with new trading partners.
Trump: If you do that, I'll create more tariffs!
Empty room:
Trump: Shit.
Choo choo! He comes the recession.
His idiots already think it's fine, and simply say "it's temporary" when you bring this up. Like... Bitch WE'RE temporary.
The trump regime’s only purpose is to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.
They are the ones already owning the companies. It's not like the middle class had much of the ownership lol
"The bottom 90% of Americans own approximately 7% to 11% of all stocks. This highlights the significant concentration of stock ownership among the wealthiest individuals in the U.S. ."
Trump is hurting the rich. Which is hilarious because it's not like he has anyone else's interests in mind ahahaha
Oh yeah, his top buddy Putin
The wealthy can always try to own more.
Each time this happens, it’s another transfer of wealth from the bottom to the top.
The top takes more, and the bottom has to fight amongst themselves for a smaller and smaller piece of the pie.
lol Eric cartman was created for this guy
On behalf of almost every Brit...... Bring it on you orange cunt
It would be sweet if we could create some trade/ military alliance similar to the EU between the ol' Commonwealth gang.
Shut up Donnie.... go have your diaper changed again
shut the fuck up and do it you cunt, it's about time we unite to put you out of your collective misery
Trump is like a doll and when you squeeze it all it says: "Tariffs!"
Next, I'll use a shotgun, and aim for my entire leg instead of just the foot!!
What does Trump think is far larger than 25%? I'd swear that he thought that 25 was as high as numbers go. Someone must have told him about 26.
"I plan to shoot myself on the dick EVEN HARDER this time"
From the guy who complains about having to pay for stuff, pretending it's a subsidy.
Sure, we can reciprocate. Further, the more tariffs he puts on, the more likely we all are to remove trade restrictions on other partners.
Guy responsible for the "great success" USMCA hates the "unfair" USMCA.
K. 🤷🏼♀️🇨🇦
Ok.
What a joke
Turn off the power
On a different note, so goodbye to the smallest and cheapest cars in the US market. Porsches will be fine though
Christian Lindner enters the chat
he's gotta get his "deal" or whatever the fuck this is about well before the midterms when he losses his majority.
ideally you can get some non-senile democrat leadership in place before then.. but i guess not. rot is deep.
Big Cheeto energy, what a blow hard
The US is not the only purchasing country numbnuts. He seems to think it's the 1950s when it was (essentially) only the US with purchasing power. Companies will just try to sell internationally.
Not surprising, seeing as how the entire party is based around a violently enforced sitcom-esque vision of an eternal 1950's.
The only one doing economic harm to America is this orange assclown.
Man with 7 bankruptcies promises this time things will be great.
Our Dumbass in Chief is showing just how little his peepee is.
We will impose bigger tariffs, a lot of people say they haven't seen tariffs so big, maybe ever and the EU, when you look at Canada the trade deals we have and I saw them and I said "no way, José!" and then I deported him folks, and the tariffs, the EU is going to pay for them and ours are much bigger than theirs! EU economists, big economists came to me with tears in their eyes and they said Mr President we can't take those tariffs but when Canada who is our state really folks but they bring in so much fentanyl that we just have to tariff them unless they join our amazing and best healthcare system that Obama and crooked Joe ruined, but now it's already better than ever
That's way to coherent and he doesn't have energy to make that large speech.
What a speech!
<Ovation s>
Hope we fucking do unite. Just to see them bleed and go back to normal higher brain function
It really is like Homer being angry he's not allowed in the No Homers Club
Classic bully behaviour.
Stupid and self defeating.
Hey dipshit (not OP), the whole point of tariffs is to reduce imports. Of course a, sane person would ramp them up over time to allow any domestic production the chance to fill the gaps.
Not to mention some sectors will probably see a loss in revenue as costs become out of reach due to more expensive labour. Not to mention the movement of wealth from bottom to top also reduces people's spending power so if you make things more expensive at the same time... Well... Wcgw? Lol.
All you need to look at soybean and steel tariffs and brexit, all are result of successful Russian propagandam
Why would you want to reduce imports anyway?
“China is sending us cheap cars! What are we gonna do?!”
Idk man, drive the cars and use the money you saved for something else? Seems like a good deal to me.
Always Opposite Day with these clowns. Everything was fine before tariffs. For every action there’s a reaction. You caused this baby carrot
Canada: Fuck off Donnie!
