Canadians overwhelmingly oppose becoming 51st U.S. state: poll
Canadians overwhelmingly oppose becoming 51st U.S. state: poll
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Canadians overwhelmingly oppose becoming 51st U.S. state: poll
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Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.
So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots. Probably the FUCK TRUDEAU flags and bumper stickers crowd who complain about their first amendment rights.
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There's a baseline 20-30% of all polls taken over the world that is made up of hateful nutjobs and conspiracy theorists
There could be someone running for office who has figured out how to solve all the world's problems for free, and that 20-30% will vehemently oppose them.
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On the positive side, I knew a Canadian couple where she was an evangelical Christian home-schooling their kids and he was a massive conspiracy theorist. They were both suspicious of vaccines and "mainstream medicine", and he strongly disbelieved in the moon landings. 15 years ago there was no way to persuade them out of any of this. But over time, with the rise of the far right, QAnon, the antivax movement and MAGA, both of them realized they want nothing to do with those people or their insanity. She correctly identified the church as a bad influence and left it, she stopped preaching at people, they sent their kids to regular schools, they all got their vaccines, and he abandoned his conspiracy theories and now accepts that he was an idiot about the moon landings and laughs at his former self. Now you can have a perfectly normal conversation with them. So it is possible to travel in the other direction.
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But the technology to fake it clearly could? Idiots...
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Yeah not only in the USA for sure.
What irks me most is that it's often people who claim to be unpolitical. But they aren't really, they just don't bother to inform themselves and react on gut feelings instead. Those gut feelings can be dumb anger or dumb "Peace & Love", but if they lead to someone saying that "Putin does not seem like he wants to harm Europe" it doesn't really matter anymore, it's just dumb. What can you say to such people? "Inform yourself"?
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Yeah... These headlines are always so optimistic (probably because our media is owned by americans)
"Overwhelming support for canada. Nothing to see here folks!"
Uhhhh... 1/5 canadians are literal traitors to the nation. Stand on guard against these morons. Elbows up.
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Polls generally are complete garbage.
If I become Supreme Leader of the US (it seems a lot more probable than it used to) I will make public polls illegal. If you want to poll people you need to do it in the privacy of your own home with the curtains drawn.
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But what about the freedom to lose one's life savings to an insurance company?
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78% is considered almost a statistical impossibility for these kinds of things. This is the polling equivalent of "every last person".
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It’s needs to be 100% of Canadians. Those who don’t oppose us becoming the U.S. aren’t Canadian, and can kindly GTFO of this amazing country.
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20% Russian bots/Elon bots
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I'm hoping that the 20% includes mostly people who are just opposed (but not strongly). Still idiots, but not likely traitors.
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I'm having a hard time finding the link to the poll itself...
But I suspect that the poll had distinct categories for "strongly oppose" and "oppose".
So either the article is lumping the two responses together (which would be shitty because they explicitly say "strongly") or it's likely that the number of Canadians who are open to it is <20.
From previous polling I've seen, it was around 13% who were open to it. Not even saying they would, but merely open to the idea.
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These articles and polls, framing trump's deranged russo-imposed plans as a legit proposal, do not help at all.
They just normalize this fucking insane shit
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Yeah, it's frustrating to see anyone even bother spending time on this nonsense. It does just normalize the absolute insanity of what is going on - it's more damaging to publish this poll than to ignore it altogether imo.
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Reporting on this just helps him.
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Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?
It's not news.
If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that'd be news.
This is... It's not even propaganda. It's just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.
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It made me lol, and not in a good way: why would there even be a poll?
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Its noise. The media eats it up. Meanwhile the economy is tanking and government spending is worse than it is under most democratic presidents. It's the Trump administration flak shield. It was tested last administration and it works very well unfortunately. Kick up enough dust around the well and people will talk about how bad the dust is instead of the fact that somebody just drank the well dry.
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We should poll how many americans are willing for their state to be the 11th canadian province.
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Well No Shit. Why would anyone want to buy into the hot mess we've got going right now?
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No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??
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The guy down the street from me with a giant “Trump 2024” flag probably wants it. Fucking traitor.
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Sounds like a great target for egging. Bonus points for being topical.
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As a US-ian, I really wish you guys would keep reminding us that if you did join the US, you'd be a 51st state slightly larger and left of California.
The GOP wants nothing to do with Canada. They cringe every time they think about ya'll voting in our elections.
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Fr - who, with the minimum amount of decency, would want to be part of this?
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Surprised its only 78% that oppose. What the hell are the 22% smoking?
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They’re all from Alberta
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Sovereign country not keen on being annexed by psycho neighbour, more news at 6.
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What sane person would want to be under the control of the Orange Turd.
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Meanwhile Puerto Rico sitting over there like what about us!? We’re supposed to be the 51st state!
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No shit!
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There shouldn't have been a poll in the first place
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The reasons for opposing becoming the 51st state were loss of Canadian identity, culture and sovereignty at 81 per cent, the difference in health care systems at 68 per cent, concerns over safety with the differences in gun laws and the legal system at 60 per cent, and concern over U.S. politics and governance just below with 58 per cent.
Fellow canucks looking out for our material conditions.
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Do 22% of Canadians live in Alberta?
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Reminder that a few states could do the funniest thing possible and try to secede.
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Except the people who would secede have control over the government. They want power more than anything else so they are going to force the entire country to be Jesusland.
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What?!? Why don't they want to have most freedoms?
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They're already tired of winning!
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why are they still writing these articles? do they think we changed our minds since last week? we said no the first time, you can stop asking us every 5 days. pretty sure most of us would rather die in a concentration camp than accept american rule
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A whole bunch of Americans oppose it as well!
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Why would someone waste their money on this poll?
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Because the world wants to know how hard Polievre fucked himself by hitching his wagon to the trump train.
Also, with an election called in Canada, it probably doesn't cost much to tack a question about current events onto a poll you were already going to conduct.
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