Which game is it?

Any game where you fight by picking stuff out of menus
- I am not sure if I should feel insulted or thankful that I just gained a new perspective.

Destiny. I hate it but I can't stop playing it.

Terraria

It's either something dark and gritty like dark souls, or the cutest shit ever like animal crossing or stardew valley. I'm my case it's both.
- The meme says worst games. Dark Souls is one of the absolute best games.
  
  My tism sometimes has me skip words when reading something with pixels in the double digits.

Tarkov. 16k hours. More time than most streamers.
- Wow. And I thought I was bad with my 5k in cs...

Siege

All I see are awesome game recommendations, thanks everyone! Except for Stardew Valley.. that's my game. I love it but I hate it for reasons mentioned already.

For me, HC WoW
- I know right like regular WoW wasn't already enough of a timesuck

So I'm not autistic and these aren't necessarily bad games, but for my partner this is definitely Dragon Age. She has put an insane number of hours into the first 3 games. She knew The Veilguard was going to be bad. She KNEW, she told me multiple times even the second before she told me she bought the game. She got 3/4 of the way through before having a crying, screaming meltdown over how bad it was.
- but she was okay with Inquisition? I don't get that at all. Dragon Age Origins is one of my favorite games of all time and I've beat it several times. Inquisition is straight trash by comparison. I beat it once and was immensely disappointed. Because of that experience, I haven't even considered trying Veilguard. I just know it can only be worse.
- It’s just disappointing to see how drastically the series has changed. It started as a top-down strategy RPG, and now it’s just a generic hack-n-slash game. Game publishers have shied away from games like the original Dragon Age, because they want to sell as many units as possible. And they think generic hack-n-slash games sell better. Games like Baldur’s Gate 3 have proved that there is still a large demand for more traditional RPGs, but the publishers simply don’t want to take the risk.

Second Life. If you could call it a game.
I started "playing" it in 2006. Went through long periods of not playing it.. but I always come back.. and it's always worse
- I used to play yeaaaars ago doing custom scripting work and what not as a teenager to make extra money. I got on recently and it just seemed dead. Maybe I just forgot how to navigate, but I literally felt like I couldn't find people to even interact with.
  
  the technology has improved tenfold, the game looks and runs so different now that its virtually unrecognizable, but the communities are shit, the user count is at best half as many as it was in the late 00s to early 10s. and most of the people online are either just parked in a shitty club, usually AFK, hiding in their private land, innnocuously buying stuff for their house or character, lagging the place up with scripted farms and such... a very small number of worthwhile game / activity and roleplay communities (RP is still basically a game...) .. and most everyone else is probably e-banging..
- This is RuneScape for me. I take very long breaks, but always end up playing it again after not thinking about it for like a year or two.
- Holy shit is it still around? I remember playing that around the same period and going to all of the servers with free shit and occasionally coming across some weird sex server lmao.
  
  when you say server, I think you're talking about regions (colloquially called "sims or simulators" in game) while its true they do run on servers, usually 4-16 regions packed onto a single server... its easier to think of them as islands of virtual real estate, some are separate individual tiny islands of 256x256 meters, whereas others are joined to others of the same size. all of course, seperate from the continents which are owned by the company but land can be rented and such
  privately owned land people can do whatever they want on it provided it isnt breaking law or TOS, and theres some weird shit that falls through the cracks.
  the concept of SL is fascisnating, how it all works in the concept of a digital world, its been doing the metaverse 20 years before Mark Zuckerberg got the idea. the problem is, people are fucking freaks. and the metaverse is as freaky as they are.

Battlefield 2042. 5k hours.
- Impressive. I didn’t know people exist with that many hours in this game but today I learned. As long as you had fun, that’s nice
  
  Ehhhhhhhh. I had fun here and there primarily because I was playing with friends. I probably would have had more fun if I played something else though, sunk cost fallacy influenced me.

Stardew Valley.

I spent a vast majority of my college years and mid 20s playing an MMO by the name of Puzzle Pirates. Honestly, if it had maintained a large enough player base for the content, I probably would've been addicted a lot longer. I've never come across another game quite like it and it's a shame mismanagement of the company and shitty decisions about the direction of the game led it to a slow death.
- For me it was Warcraft 3 custom maps. And I'd probably still be playing it if blizzard hadn't fucking destroyed it. Fuck blizzard forever.

Elder Scrolls Oblivion.
Like I hate it, it was a disappointment when I got it (maybe even more than Skyrim). I wanted Morrowind 2, I got “oh, the LOTR series is popular because of the film, why not flatten our setting into generic medieval fantasy?” instead of my jungle city with dragons flying around the canals.
The main plot is stupid, most of the faction plot lines are stupid (Mannimarco is probably one of the most embarrassing bosses in a video game of all time). Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine showed that there were still some capable writers at Bethesda, but Horse Armor probably got a lot more profit for much less effort. (And now, they’ve figured that they don’t even have to do that and can just resell what modders do.)
Despite how much I hate the game, I’ve sank thousands of hours into it - not just playing it, but modding it. Installing the mods of others, making and releasing my own. I have a dream of someday making a total conversion mod which would fix all of the things I hate about the main story and the landmass and the dialogue and the lack of roleplaying opportunities… to the point where I’ve also spent hundreds of hours making small stabs at the project.
I listen to other people play the game and talk about the game and complain about the game all of the time. I watch more hours of people playing Oblivion than Morrowind - which is the game I actually like and think is good!
Edit: Plot of Morrowind - complicated political intrigue, analysis of colonialism, and subversion of the “Chosen One” narrative, where you could make a very strong argument that the main character is a government agent sent to “fulfill” an indigenous prophecy to destabilize the region politically and further centralize the Empire’s control over Tamriel.
Plot of Oblivion - Mehrunes Dagon is now basically the Christian Devil (flanderizing the very interesting morality of the Daedra in lore). Your job is to fight all the evil cultists who want to bring him back for basically no reason, like even in their “paradise” they’re getting tortured for funsies. No one has motivations other than being bad guys or good guys. (See also how the Mages Guild portrays necromancy as “the bad magic” which was a religious thing in Morrowind but canonically seen as morally neutral elsewhere before they became the generic baddies you slaughter in dungeons and caves.)
- Fucking Mannimarco was SO disappointing. You're chasing down this rouge faction of necromancers, corpses nailed to the walls, spooky as shit, rumors of The King of Worms fly, you finnally make it to him, and he's an Altmer in a cave in a brown robe all ''I'm an immortal who used to be in the Psyjic Order, was there when magic was first passed from Mer to Men, I single handedly invented enchanting, soul binding, and raising the dead, You have to fucking PRAY to me to make black soul gems!''
  And you lob an arrow at him from across the room and he says the same things ever Altmer in the game does and falls over dead. Like... really? I was expecting ANYTHING to happen in the fight at all.
  They could have just made him a litch with some thralls and a health pool and damage output high enough to make it seem like a boss fight. I've had more trouble assassinatiing pirates.
  
  The build up is ridiculous! Traven kills himself to give you that soul gem.
  Mannimarco is supposed to be a god! How is he just a high elf in a shitty reskinned robe that needs a staff to reanimate a single corpse? Mannimarco in lore would use Mannimarco in game as fodder for experiments - getting merked by someone who might not even know how to cast a fireball. (Getting rid of faction requirements also annoys me, but if you’re so opposed to making people replay your game for all content and think it’s immersive that you can be the Grey Fox, Arch Mage, Listener, etc…, then at least acknowledge it somehow. Like, if you become Arch Mage before you do Thieves Guild, at one point you steal from yourself. I guess you also do become Sheogorath, maybe that insanity is why.)
  They could have at least made a unique character mesh for him based on his Daggerfall design.
- When I did my first play thru on Xbox 360, and I realized there was no levitation or jumping spells – I can still recall the disappointment. That simple thing was enough for me to not like it as much.
  However, going into portals sickened and scared me. I never got over it before I moved on to Skyrim.
  
  The way the game is designed relies on a lack of levitation and jumping spells. They needed to make everything run on console (and designed the UI entirely around that, it’s torment to use vanilla UI on PC). Cities have to be in separate worldspaces, and levitating could get you into the placeholder spots on the map. It would also make closing those Oblivion gates trivial if you just float up to the top of the tower. (Real men just use paintbrushes).
  It just doesn’t make any lore sense though. Necromancy is illegal too, but it’s certainly still happening!

DotA 2 is not the worst game... Right?

- I am so glad I bought that game before the steam release, which means most of my hours are untracked.
- The factory must expand so the factory can expand so the factory can expand so the factory can expand so the factory..
- The factory must grow
- Good choice !

This is unironically one of my favorite memes because it fits me SO WELL:
On Minecraft I have ~150 days playtime on PC, after switching to Prismlauncher (after some development drama) I have another ~22 days playtime. Along with my 1300 hours on switch it's a total of 234.5 DAYS looking at pixelated blocks in a children's game.
that's not even including my time in PE edition from when I was little or the multiple years I spent in Lunar client which doesn't track playtime. In total it's probably WELL over a whole year of JUST Minecraft.
I ALSO have 9154 hours in other steam games and 1500 MORE in animal crossing. In total this is 16,000 hours, 670 days or
1.8 YEARS
I do also have minor autism.
edit: also 2-300 hours in oldschool RuneScape lol
- edit: also 2-300 hours in oldschool RuneScape lol
  I have logged over 200 hours in RuneScape just this month.
  It probably helps that I have a job where I can have it running next to me. At this point, it is basically just an idle game that I only need to touch every ~15 minutes to refresh my idle logout timer. Pretty much the only times it’s not running are when I’m asleep or physically away from a computer.
  Hell, even when I’m away from my computer, it keeps running as long as I can touch it every now and then to stay logged in. If I’m AFK’ing slayer with aggressive enemies, I only really need to touch it to refresh my inventory or the idle timer. Even when I’m playing other games, RuneScape just runs quietly on my second monitor.

Animal Crossing and Stardew Valley. I have at least 10k hours between both.
- Stardew Valley is not a bad game.
  
  Not for the first 400h, but after that what do you have going on? I have 6900 hours into SdV on Steam alone, and I have no idea why I keep coming back to something I've beat to perfection already.
  
  It is a good came I just got tired of it due to the constant inventory management and the rapid day night cycle making me feel like I had to speed run everything.
  Besides that the art, music, controls, and, aesthetic are all wonderful.
- I want to play AC so badly. Every time I pick it up my brain is hit with nostalgia from when I played it as a kid on my N64 and GC but now as an adult I enjoy it more watching my kids play it and talk to me about their villagers.

Modded minecraft isnt the worst ever
I started making games to make sure its not
- One day I’ll get around to playing Nomifactory CE. I’ve somehow played the base one twice over the past five years.
  I’ve been so alienated from friends playing the most popular game on the planet in multiplayer because I can’t play Vanilla for shit. Not since 1.2.5 probably.
  I’ll play no Minecraft for two years and then immediately nolife a modpack for two months.
  Good shit. The best value game I have ever bought, no question about it.

I have the most hours in Warframe, but Factorio is on a different level. If you're anywhere on the spectrum, it is pure crack cocaine. The only reason I haven't bought the DLC is because I know it'll consume a month of my free time.
By the way, Warframe 1999's soundtrack fucking slaps.
- How are the micro transactions on warframe? Do they shove them down your throat or do you need to pay them to play? Was considered trying it out but free to play games tend to be shitty.
  
  Pretty good, and somehow getting better with time; especially considering how much you can get out of the game for completely free.
  The game's main premium currency is platinum. There's no way to get it through in-game activities. You can buy it directly, it is included in most cash-only purchases, or you can trade it freely with other players. Most of the trading is organized on the third-party market board warframe.market, and the in-game trading chat... exists, I guess.
  Most of the game's items (weapons, warframes, companions, upgrades) can be farmed through regular gameplay from random drops, from specific missions or boss fights, crafted from gathered resources, or bought using in-game currencies. You can buy most of them for platinum, but don't have to. The only payment-exclusive items are cosmetics (skins, helmets, color palettes), but not all of them, and inventory slots. There are also many late-game items that are impossible to buy and have to be earned. Some items are also sold in discounted packs. As of the latest major update (released literally a few hours ago), you get an additional discount for items of a pack that you already own.
  The worst limiting factor for a new player is warframe and weapon slots. Your account can only hold a limited number of certain items, and slots are almost exclusively purchased with platinum (a small number can be earned through Nightwave, a free battle pass-like system). A new account starts with 50 non-tradable platinum -- my recommendation is to buy 2 weapon slot packs (12p for two slots, 24p total) and a warframe slot (20p for one).
- After playing with trains in factorio, then just staring at them go in pure ecstasy for 10s of minutes. I am now convinced I'm much further on the spectrum than I thought.
- Space Age is totally worth it though
- Can confirm. It's the only game I play at this point.
  Finally got to Fulgora. I want that mech suit.
  
  I'm currently avoiding fixing Gleba, so I'm making an Epic Mech Suit.
- A month? That is not enough :(
  
  When they say a month of free time, the really mean a month of neglecting the laundry, dishes, vacuuming, showering, and cooking at home. And probably also a month of being late to work too.
- Ignore the expansion and just free base Space Exploration

It’s not a bad game but Rimworld is destroying my life right now.
- Is it about rimming?
- same
  
  unrelated but i just noticed that the playtime was 1234, that's neat
  
  I should get tested or something.
  
  That's more hours per week than I have to work.
  But you can always do more. I have a childhood friend who, when some leagues were released, averaged about 14 hours per day for Path of Exile for two weeks straight. Like 180 hours playtime in two weeks.
  Another friend of mine should be at about 8000 hours of Rocket League by now on his main account only. That's over the game's full lifespan though.
- I had to ban myself from that game as I'd fall off the face of the earth for weeks at a time
- Definitely mine too. It doesn’t even run faster than 1x.. which is sucky slow but my own fault for having too many livestock animals to support my ~60 pawns… (peaceful gets very out of control if you let it) but now I have an outpost mod and as soon as all my kids are adults, most of them are gone.

ITT: people listing good games they played a bunch.
The answer is clearly world of warcraft.
- Having grown up on the MUDs and MMOs that release before WoW I think I was thankfully inoculated against its more gamified, addictive formula.

I’ve been playing the Monster Hunter series since 2004 and have logged well over 10k hours.
- They said bad games
  
  For most of its over 20 year lifecycle, Monster Hunter was extremely niche and considered inaccessible and bad by the wider gaming populace. Complaints about the series are ongoing, even with the newest entry (PC gamers especially consider apocalyptic due to actual performance issues that need to be addressed). It’s always something, and especially with either very new players or very old vets, who either expect dark souls or yearn for the old days of attacking with the joystick.
  I think it fits the description, as I’m sure the games being called “bad” by op certainly have a charm that drew someone’s deep attention. I know MH isn’t for everyone, but I’ll love it until the day I die, which, considering todays climate about mental health, probably won’t be that far off.

Factorio. Do i need to say more?
- Why aren't you tending to your factory?
  
  My factory is paused. I found Derail Valley Simulator, and have been absolutely loving driving trains

There was a shitty f2p MMO called GunZ online once upon a time. It was so badly programmed that glitches literally became the primary gameplay loop.
I loved it. For those few that could get into it, it was a unique heaven of fps and fighting game that filled a void an over caffeinated teen with nothing but hyper focus and time didn't know they had.
Also just ridiculously horny people.
- Don't call GunZ shitty! I'll double butterfly your face, or something. It's been a while.
- Also just ridiculously horny people.
  So, average MMO player
- Fuuuuuuck dude haven't thought about that game in a decade
- I remember that, Nexon?

I just spent 20 hours on the demo for the new game roadcraft. I'm just pushing dirt around in a tractor like I'm playing with Tonka trucks back when I was 5. I haven't really done anything interesting, just leveled dirt. Anyway, ill probably put in another 6 hours today after work.

I'm split between Factorio and Dwarf Fortress.
- Give Songs of Syx a try. One guy, who developed the game in a shed in Poland so he could get away from his family. You can try the "demo" which is the full game just one version behind. Once he gets tired of developing it he said he'll make it open source. Think dwarf fortress but you're capable of having a population of thousands. Oh, and nevermind the race riots or cannibalism.
  
  I went ahead and grabbed the demo and I will give a try, thanks for the info!

cookie clicker
fucking useless, highly addictive
- Oh god, all the clicker games were like fucking methamphetamine to me. I remember there was this 'city' clicker one where you built roads, and I straight up played nothing else for three weeks, every moment I could when I wasn't working. I'm glad I don't even look in their direction now, because I know I could get sucked back in.
- my phones version is about as old as my cousin lol
- Have you tried Stimulation?
  
  My eyes started hurting and my phone got very hot.
  
  This was fun. Then my phone started acting up.

Nethack. 100% this is Nethack.
- Will we get Nethack 4.0 by 2050?
  
  Sooner than Halflife 2, I fear 😜

Did you know on the original FFX on PS2 if you play more than 9999 hours the hours played flips over to 0000 again?
PS I also checked how many hours 9999 is because I wasn't sure if I was exaggerating how much I played the game, and it's less than two full years worth of hours, and I did in fact play more than that, easily.
- Did you like 100% the upgrade map?
  Giving me Dick Tree vibes.
  
  You can 100% the Sphere Grid in only a few hours, if you’re smart about it. My guess is they were going around using Clear Spheres to wipe unneeded spheres off the map and replace them. The default Sphere Grid doesn’t actually allow you to max your stats; You need to clear the existing +2 or +3 spheres, and replace them with +4 spheres instead.
  Even then, maxing your stats doesn’t require 9999 hours. Unless OP was farming experience in Besaid Island (the starting area) it shouldn’t take that long to navigate the grid and farm enough replacement spheres.
- No shade or anything but how does that work in a single player pretty linear game, what's the draw after you finish it a few times?
  
  People used to just play the endgame in single player games. I probably put more hours into Tales of Symphonia after I beat all the content than before.
  
  Lots and lots of Blitzball, I guess.

I kind of miss when No Man's Sky was an endless, empty expanse. That sense of loneliness and futility was an emotional experience that it doesn't have now. It's become a much better game, no doubt, but putting time and careful planning into that long crawl towards the galactic centre felt right.
- It has an empty universe mode in one of the updates

Megaten
- My judgement will depend on which megaten game you no-lifed.

Dota 2. Almost 10k hours. I got matched against s4 and had to face him in the mid lane. I got wrecked and I uninstalled the game, that was a few years ago now. I figured if I just matched against one of the best players in the world then I actually completed dota and it's time to stop.
- I have over 10k now but a lot is idle time waiting for match or friends
- I had 10k hours in DotA before DotA2 was even a thing. DotA2 never pulled me in quite the same, but even so the best day of my life was when I uninstalled that shit for good in 2015.
  
  I've tried a lot of drugs and dota is the strongest one I've had. Lol.

I honestly loved Forspoken. I even bought a second physical copy in case something happens to the original.
- Finished playing through it just recently, seriously underrated imo.
- Forspoken is one of the only 9th generation games I'm actually interested in.
  
  It's legit brilliant, and I unironically love it.

Elite Dangerous, Rimworld
- Came here to also say Elite. They're actually doing updates now, but I still would never recommend to anyone despite devoting so much time to it.
  
  What kind of updates?

Outer Worlds. Not exactly a bad game but fell just a tad short of being F:NV spiritual successor.
- You could tell what was constraining it was mostly budget. I have high hopes for the sequel.
- Is this a personal spiritual successor, or is this there some thread connecting these two games that I'm missing?
  They do both rule.
  
  Both made by Obsidian
- It's an amazing game. The sprat rescue...

Quest 64 is my favorite "bad" game. It was a meme for like a week around here, I miss those days.
- As a kid I was so thirsty for RPGs without fully realising it that I made way too much of an attempt to like Quest.

Growing up playing osu! forever scarred my taste in music. Now I have a $300 SDVX controller at home and I need help
Also honorable mention for the 500+ hrs I have in Skyrim (with additional difficulty mods), Slay the Spire, Binding of Issac, ...
- What's the deal with osu? I work in a computer shop and see that icon on customer machines all the time but never looked into it.

Did y'all hear about Rain World ?

There was this spreadsheet masquerading as a space conquest 4X game called Stars!
- I just looked this up and I’m definitely gonna try it out.

Rimworld, Vicky 2, Ck2, Hoi4, Eu4, Fallout 1 2 3 and New Vegas, Morrowind, Skyrim, and currently Vintage Story. My tastes are damned good profligates can you say the same?!
Edit: Also Total Warhammer.
- I have the same list but Caves of Qud also sucked some life out of me. Damn good RPG though.
- Currently on my 3rd run of FO4 after finishing my 3rd of Skyrim, with some NMS in between

Eve online took a lot from me , but it gave back a lot more .. i think everyone who plays it is on the spectrum, no other explanation tbh

I will not stand for this Robot Unicorn Attack slander.
sits carefully
...that's better.
- That game and one scene from Scrubs revived Erasure's synth pop briefly in the 2000s
- 🎵And live in harmony harmony oh Lord!🎵

Me being in love with Hellgate: London, Fate (WildTangent), and Warframe be like
- Oh man, Hellgate: London. That's a blast from the past.
  
  I still fire it up from time to time, runs great for me
- Hellgate London was such fun, unique hybrid twist on ARPG and looter shooter, I was sad when I heard it was shutdown.
  I woulda played it more if I had known it was about to be shutdown. There were some crash bugs and sudden difficulty spikes that made me quit, thinking Id come back to it later. That later never happened.
  
  Yeah it's a shame the official multiplayer didn't last long. There's some fan projects with that but none of them scratched the same itch for me. There were a few patches for the game and they're still available, but the difficulty spikes are still there, it gets grindy in the last couple sections of the game.

Oxygen not included. I spent so much brain beating that game, then wanted to play more.
- I keep going back to ONI to try and get into its endgame. But I quickly start getting kicked around in a back alley by the temperature stuff. Like trying to figure out colony-wide temperature control.
  
  Heat control is definitely the toughest boss of the game. Satisfying as fuck to be constantly pumping in cool O2 into the main colony block though once you get a handle on it. The steam turbine aqua tuner loop is key to fully nailing mid to late game temperature control, and needs to be implemented later on to actually get liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.
  You can easily go hundreds of cycles though without needing a steam turbine as long as you are properly planning your base. There are a lot of aspects though that need to be considered. Most of which boil down to (heh) just not building your temperature sensitive things next to hot or heat producing things.
  One neat trick is to create a vacuum with liquid locks on either side so that heat is not conducted from one side to another. Another more basic trick is finding a cold biome or cool salt water geyser and pumping liquid through it then insulating the pipe ( p-water best because it's high specific heat capacity and low freezing temperature) and then running it through your base with some radiant/normal piping at picked spots to release that coolness.
  The two focuses you need before you get to creating coolness are to try not to let heat in from outside (don't dig into hot biomes without insulated tile or liquid locks) and try not to unnecessarily generate heat on the inside of your colony block. You also want to try to just largerly separate where your plants are from where your cooking/machines are until you can actively control the heat generated.
  Even without a steam turbine room you can just plop down an aqua tuner next to a pool of water outside your base and radiate that now cool water into the base for quite awhile before the system would break down.
  Hope that helps!

My last words will be “Just one… more… turn”
- Followed by Ghandi cackling as he unleashes a nuke on your Civ.

Garry's Mod back when spacebuild still existed. Fun stuff especially all the Stargate add-ons.

I remember when I stumbled into the serious world of 100% Orange Juice players on steam/twitch
- Oh man that games so fun, haven't played it in an while tho
  Star Breaker forever

EVE Online?
- EXCUSE ME! Spreadsheet simulator clearly DOES NOT fall under the category of 'worst game' in any way whatsoever! Now hold on for a second while I log into my 7th account...

Payday 2

"Worst". Idk, Satisfactory is pretty great.

Spelunky 2
- Honorable mentions Noita and The Binding of Isaac
  (Thats about 3/3 of my life)

World of Tanks, which is pretty funny considering the image.
- War Thunder, if your 'tism is weapons grade and a national security risk.
  
  How many leaks were there ? War Thunder forums are next level military security and intel threat ... weapons grade autism
- Currently playing World of Warships. I play in 1-3 month stints and don't touch it for months at a time. I always enjoy coming back to it because they just keep adding more stuff.
  
  I love the game (and hate it), but it's my friend who has the autistic fascination. He got me into the game, and then started quoting all the ships' descriptions as I was looking around. I have no idea how some people can just memorize every armor layout for every ship. That's next-level insanity.
  
  I haven't actually played WoT since they added tier 8-10 light tanks, but god did I sink a lot of my teenage years into it. I have been really craving it lately, but I know better than to go back to it.

<Insert any Zachtronics game here>
- love Zachtronics games. Got the solitaire collection on Mobile. One of the few games I play on my phone.

I should probably take a picture, but at least 1500 hours on Project Cars 2 on PS4 / 5.
Edit: I just looked and it's actually 2,897 hours.
- At least you you can probably drive better than 3/4 of the tech bros at a track day now.
  
  Haha I did volunteer at a track for a bit and they paid me in rally car lessons, driving one of their WRXs through the woods, which was a blast.
  They were convinced I'd done it before because before they taught me how, I was already good at left foot braking and could smoothly heel-toe while shifting, but in reality I hadn't driven an IRL stick shift for more than a few hours at most. That's not to say I didn't make some silly mistakes though lol
  Bought an FR-S recently and once I get some new tires on it, I'm gonna see how I do on a not-dirt track!
  Anyway I've switched to PC now, if anyone wants to race...

1.8 YEARS