MAGAt loses his federal job

I've been watching people go on and on about a Socialist revolution since I read about Gene Debs in high school.

I haven't seen them actually do anything yet.

Nice rhyme, might steal it

You expect a "both sides" maga to know that? Seeing all these "it's the dem's fault for not telling us how shit trump would treat us" folks is crazy. Everyone want to blame the dems for the lepords.

This fuckin slaps

Nobody is this stupid. You're being intentionally dishonest.

USDA isn't the private sector. There are strict rules against firing the vast majority of employees. It's why Trump has largely gone after probationary employees, as they have less protections. Even that has been wrapped up in several different ongoing court cases.

There are also mortgage forbearance programs designed for temporary job loss. Even without them, foreclosure is a lengthy process. It's not something that's initiated after one missed payment.

So for this story to be true:

1. OP, a progressive Twitter influencer, lives next to a hardcore MAGA republican. Unlikely, but relatively common
2. Said MAGA republican is also a federal government employee. More unlikely, but still relatively common
3. Said federal government employee is among the roughly 10 percent of government workers that are probationary. Relatively rare, but not unheard of
4. Despite being new to federal employment and federal employment known for someone that you do for the long haul for pension reasons, OP's neighbor has the money to buy a house. Relatively rare, but not unheard of
5. Despite having the finances for a home, is in such dire straits that the only option after one missed paycheck is to sell their home. Very rare, but not unheard of
6. Despite being very into politics and a government employee, is wholly unaware of the pending legal actions against said firing, including the current rulings reversing the staffing cuts.

All of this is possible. The world is a strange place. However the confluence of all those things being true is highly improbable, perfectly matches the "dumb conservatives gonna regret their choice" narrative progressive influencers push, and is sourced from a platform known for being full of misinformation and bait.

• On Twitter, the site known for random misinformation
• OP knows their neighbor well enough to know where they work, despite that not being nearly as common these days and OP not seeming like the kind of guy that would befriend Trump supporters
• OP's neighbor is one of the minority of federal workers who are probationary employees, because that's the only group Elon has been able to really fire right now
• OP's neighbor simultaneously being a homeowner with a previously-stable job, but being in such dire financial straits that simply missing two paychecks results in a complete crashout.
• OP's neighbor then selling the house instead of taking advantage of the large number of hardship programs that would be available for someone with issues paying their mortgage, at least temporarily.

Like is this possible? Yes. However it's highly implausible, and conveniently matches the whole "stupid Drunpf supporters regret their decision" narrative that both Lemmy and reddit absolutely adore. To take this at any sort of face value without any genuine shred of concrete evidence is insane.

Just because the Democrats are the most left leaning party available to Americans doesn't make the democratic party a left leaning party. If anything the Democrats are centerists because their ultimate objective is to maintain the status quo. Lemmy reaches to far more countries that just the United States, places that have left leaning parties. Even left-wing extremists parties, although they're definitely on the ropes lately.

The Democrats aren't a progressive party, they're a conservative party. It's just with MAGA in the room the scale has moved so far to the right that the center (conservative) seems progressive.

And on top of that for most government workers their paychecks have been remarkably stable. Assuming you'll always be employed plus easy credit and bad financial habits are a bad combination

Man, that's tragic. I was poor most of my early life, and when I finally started to make enough money to be comfortable, I knew that the thing I couldn't do was fall into the lifestyle trap. Living well below my means saved me so much hardship when things weren't going well. I know that many don't ever get to the point of comfortable, though, and there's a bit of luck and effort, to that.

12% is pretty insane for an asset that depreciates as fast as a vehicle does.

Doesn’t seem likely unless he was renting. Even if you miss one mortgage payment, your bank can’t take your house that fast.

If it was posted for sale it likely wasn't a foreclosure that fast. Perhaps the owner did the math and saw very quickly that they wouldn't be able to keep up with the mortgage, or no longer had any reason to live in that city because they were there only for the job. With the job gone, the need of the house in that city goes with it. I'm just speculating.

You don't need to be right wing/maga to post engagement-farming on Twitter.

How do you construct anti-propaganda laws that can't be used by bad actors to silence dissent? Genuine question if you have an answer but I don't think anyone actually does. The only actual counter to propaganda is quality education, which is where the US has been failing dramatically.

That isn't true. Only 31% of adults voted for him vs 30% for Harris. The majority of adults didn't vote because they didn't like either candidate.

You can say fuck. It's okay.

I think the "I treat people like shit and expect them to change their view because of it" is harmful.

This is not how you change a mind. This is how to get sombody to double down on their bullshit who where ready to change their views.

Perhaps in private, but not if you remind them.

Consider this. Your asshole detestable uncle loses his house. On the one hand you can text him and say you deserve what you get you piece of shit.

Or invite him over to watch a baseball game. Avoid politics. Quietly remind him not everyone is a piece of shit.

Which do you think will more likely change his mind? Or which one will he double down on, write it off as an accident, and go deeper down the hole. I took one for the team.

No you can't change the internet's mind, but how do people react to when ridiculed? How do you? I guess it all depends on what the end game is

I think the only reason people ever say things like this make them ‘happy’ is in the absence of a more accurate label.

Schadenfreude? Commonly translated to English as "joy at seeing other's misfortune." I hope in most cases it is more associated with seeing someone in the wrong receiving their comeuppance. The joy of watching your enemy suffer a setback or even defeat.