[META] Two (more like one and a half) new rules, two new mods, and a question for you all
[META] Two (more like one and a half) new rules, two new mods, and a question for you all
Please refrain from posting disturbingly inaccurate generations
I'm not talking about the occasional weird proportions or AI Hands(tm) we love making fun of. There have been a few (now deleted by their creator) generations that the general audience of this community have communicated they clearly do not wish to see. If you want that kind of content, feel free to create your own community for that.
And as for the "half rule": Please try not to host on Imgur. I've been having trouble accessing any kind of content whatsoever (including SFW stuff) from there in the past while, and all the FOSS frontends get rate limited frequently enough that it impacts my ability to moderate properly. I'm not going to remove posts just because they're hosted on Imgur for the time being, but please consider hosts that are friendlier to NSFW content.
Also, this community is getting way more active than I expected when I first created it. I am not exactly sure how to proceed beyond asking for a couple more people to be around to help (oh, I should mention, I added @itsame@lemmynsfw.com and @StrongSuspect4913@lemmynsfw.com as mods to help me with this community, and I'm considering asking for a few more people).
If you do want to be a mod, do note that one of the responsibilities you will have on your shoulders is deciding if something is underage or not. We do not allow blatant lolicon/shotacon nor any realistic posts that are clearly under 18 (If you do see anything of that sort, REPORT), but while some generations are so blatant you don't need to check beyond the thumbnail to remove, there are many that are "teetering on the line" so to speak. (And I sure as shit don't want to be the ONLY person who decides on where that line is)
And finally, there is something else that's been bugging me lately, and I feel like I should at least throw this idea out to all of you, just to see what the reception would be like:
Should realistic generations and Anime-style generations be on the same community?
When I created this community, I didn't expect how prevalent realistic posts would be. You can tell by my own posts all being Anime-styled that I have no clue how you wizards manage to do it with the quality you do. And clearly people want to see more of it, so who am I to stop you from doing so?
There are middle grounds like adding tags to titles as makeshift flairs, but I do not want to go back to the days of "please tag your post as NSFW we mods literally can't do anything about it" but instead with style tags rather than a simple checkbox that says NSFW.
You're the ones here posting and (presumably) masturbating to this content, so I'm leaving the answer to that question up to you.
This post turned out to be way longer than I expected.
I have no problem with both real and anime. Real are way more impressive (there are some image I'm sure they must be real, like for real đź‘€ ) But I really don't care, so I'm team let's keep the way it work now ^^.
Something I wish we could see in the description of the creations being posted is the prompt, which model was used, and some of the general settings like iterations to help others who are struggling to get their generated pictures to look realistic.
While I generally agree, there is some "artistry" in making prompts that work and figuring out all of the tricks to get better results. My own prompts have gotten a lot more interesting with custom checkpoint merging and dynamic and region prompting; these all took time to learn. I think posting the prompt/sources should be optional and people should request it if they want it, perhaps in a private message.
I understand that "AI prompter" is becoming a job for some people at some companies and I can now start to see why. As you try to generate more realistic and interesting images, you have to know more about how stable diffusion and the many extensions work. It goes pretty deep—I feel like I am only scratching the surface.
And so we have the part I was worried about. This is becoming a “my secret formula” instead of sharing and helping others get better and share in the interest of creation. Personally I disagree with you on the premise that we should be helping others get better. Just sharing the prompts and the model used isn’t the ticket to the kingdom, but it does help people start to shape their own prompts.
For instance, using less iterations (15) sometimes gets a better result than using more (50). Didn’t know this until I saw someone who shared their experience. But that doesn’t give me the secret to make exactly the same images as them.
Just checking to see if this is a ship without a captain at the helm or if any of the mods are still active. It seems the community owner hasn’t been active in 5 months, one mod in 3 months and the other seems to pop in once a week. If this is the case I’d like to put my name forward for taking over control of the community to ensure it’s ongoing growth and survival as having the most prominent pornographic AI gen community with no active leadership seems like a waste. Appreciated.
The issue of moderating and running this community still hadn't been resolved.
Just checking to see if this is a ship without a captain at the helm or if any of the mods are still active. It seems the community owner hasn't been active in 5 months, one mod in 3 months and the other seems to pop in once a week. If this is the case I'd like to put my name forward for taking over control of the community to ensure it's ongoing growth and survival as having the most prominent pornographic AI gen community with no active leadership seems like a waste. Appreciated.
Hey, yes I am still active occasionally. But you are right, none of the mods are super active anymore. So yeah, if you want to I gladly make you a mod :)
That'd be great. Appreciated.
+1 for Categorized.
Given how easy it is to create lemmy communities and throw content at them, why not aim for being organized? Have clearly defined communities waiting for the content to pour into them: Human-drawn Hentai, AI Hentai, Photos from porn into categories, AI generated porn fetish by fetish, etc… Nobody is yucking anyone's yum, and everyone can sub or block what they want or don't.
This "mixing" debate is happening in every medium. Should AI generated content be mixed in indiscriminately, or should we welcome it but into it's own channels? AI art with hand-crafted human art? AI poetry with human poetry? Someday they'll be indistinguishable, but until then, let's let each member choose.
I would volunteer to be a mod. Wont spend every hour of the day on here, but I am on pretty often. I kinda think the anime stuff should be in its own sub, unless theres a way to sort by tag that I dont know of. And how many people are actually going to properly tag their stuff? I dont mind most of the anime, but Im here for the realistic posts.
I agree with the anime versus realistic stuff. I think posts should have maybe a "realistic" "anime" "artistic" or other tag. These should be defined.
Are naked males allowed here? I've generated some pretty sexy dudes. ;)
Post them! More males needed!
Halp! I posted one and it's getting downvoted into oblivion!
Imo guys are fine, just include a (m) somewhere
Hi everyone!
First, thanks for your moderating so far Triple! I think you've done a great job so far.
I've also wondered this question about Hentai vs Realistic. I was unsure when I posted the first realistic post if this was the right community for it, or if it was just for hentai. Personally I don't mind if they are mixed (since I think both are cool), but I am willing to move elsewhere if that's what the community wants. For instance, we already have an AIGen Futa Porn community, so there is some precedent for having multiple communities here.
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Should realistic generations and Anime-style generations be on the same community?
For the time being, sure, why not. It's a volume question.
If I have to scroll to page 2 to find new content and it's obviously getting in the way of other stuff, a separate community may be in order.
I would prefer them separate, because - as I am not deeply familiar with anime/anime-like styles and any age indicator they might have (breast size does not count) - I cannot tell when the subject is supposed to be underage (and even if they are, sometimes it's up for interpretation). I have a much better chance of guessing correctly with the realistic style. I desperately want to believe that every artist is always drawing 18+ (assuming USA), but that is left up to the thin blue line, not the artist's intention, and that is NOT a line I want to end up on the wrong side of.
I think realistic and drawn styles should be separate. Also I don't think it should be called anime lol. I get that a lot of people do anime but I think lumping all drawn styles is fine, at least for now.
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I'm actually quite confused as to why it's even being separated from "real" porn. Why not just tag it as [AI] and dump it into the appropriate category for the picture content.
I can't tell the difference without paying close attention much of the time anyways.
This is where it's at pretty much.
Why not require a negative prompt leading with child, kid, in the first 10 words? I'm not good at writing a bot, but it might even be possible to intercept images to check that this exists in the meta data before Lemmy wipes it....maybe. It might exclude a few ups, but it would greatly reduce the moderation load.
I don't think forcing people to use specific negative prompts is a good approach. Don't take that as me saying I think CP is acceptable though. Also people can easily fake metadata on images in the same way they can modify an image. Using a bot to check metadata won't solve anything. Plus you could probably make CP looking stuff even with specific negative prompts.
Downvote and reporting is best in my opinion.
but it might even be possible to intercept images to check that this exists in the meta data before Lemmy wipes it....
This would be impossible without directly modifying Lemmy itself.