Anti-China Rhetoric Is Off the Charts in Western Media
Anti-China Rhetoric Is Off the Charts in Western Media
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Anti-China Rhetoric Is Off the Charts in Western Media
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I read this ‘article’. There are zero references towards the so called ‘China Bashing’. If it is so rampant, how hard can it be to just link to a few mainstream offenders? It alludes towards a deliberate bashing, once again without any links or merit. I am fully aware that news is hardly unbiased but come on, this is ridiculous.
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like, just off the top of my head there's that whole "spy balloon" thing.
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A Chinese corporation openly tested those spy balloons over my country a decade ago (allegedly just for monitoring livestock), why is it so unbelievable that they'd use a more polished version on their biggest geopolitical rival?
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Give me a source that shows the blatant and deliberate anti China rhetoric about the ‘spy balloon’.
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Have you been following media recently or have you been living under a rock?
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That’s not a defense. Opinion pieces can be fine, but if you’re claiming that something is off the charts you should probably have some charts (or any points of data) to prove the claim.
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I have been following media intensively. I am not saying that news about China is unbiased in the western media. I am calling out the lack of any sources in this weak ‘article’
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This is an important difference that always gets left out in these articles.
Of course people will be anti-China when the CCP is making the movies (edit, I meant "moves" but movies works too haha). It's one thing to ask for companies to make a version of media specifically for your country, but using your weight to make that the version? That is an insanely big red flag when Tencent has roots in everything and also goes by the whim of the party.
On the flip side, my friend from college moved to China a couple years after we graduated and he's been doing really, really well. He loves it there. Ironically he ended up getting a job with Tencent and is a pretty big part of their last released Synced. So I'm glad he's doing well, but it's also been weird talking about certain topics with him. It was also weird when I was asking about how he was talking with me and he's like "oh I just have to get on a VPN and etc so I that's why I'm not around much, but it's cool lol." Kinda freaky when I also just see the articles about a company getting fined for using a VPN. I'm sure he'll be fine but it's still slightly worrying.
Which ultimately kind of sums up the situation. My friend loved his experience in China so much so that he moved back there seemingly permanently and set himself up with a nice life with the culture seeming to be a big part of that. And then there's the actions of the government. Many of the same criticisms can absolutely be held toward the U.S. regarding housing and towards a not-so-small portion our political actions, however it seems the difference is that we don't have a knitted corporate government quite yet. I dunno, the sway of Apple, MS, whoever else just doesn't have the same weight as the CCP and Tencent. That generally seems to be peoples issue
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I dunno, the sway of Apple, MS, whoever else just doesn't have the same weight as the CCP and Tencent.
The fact that you name Apple and Microsoft makes me think there is a blind spot here. If you are taking about big tech with it's tendrils in US policy I'd go for Google and Facebook. Big pharma and the military industrial complex are even bigger issues. These industries don't just undermine the US but harm the global community as well. Then you have think tanks, often funded by capital, shaping narratives and foreign policy.
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Better tell all the people critical of the Chinese government on weibo that they're in jail lol
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That's right. Because not every single person is in jail, no problem exists. /s
How about this: even putting one person in jail because of political opinion is an oppressive, undemocratic action.
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Yeah, like Naomi Wu, famous in the maker community, who tried her best to provide a nuanced view of China before pissing off the wrong group of people and going radio silent for good.
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Everyday people need to remember the difference between the general Chinese population and the CCP. The Chinese people are wonderful. The CCP is horrific, and working tirelessly to create their own version of hell.
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Nobody would deny this. On the other hand, it's the same argument as "not all Russians support Putin" or even---dare I say---"not all Germans were Nazis." It's true that when you live under a despotic regime there's not much you can do about it, individually. And most people would not willingly be complicit in the regime's crimes except to the extent that they have no choice.
But it's true that these regimes do have lots of internal support. They wouldn't exist without that support. And to the extent that this support is manufactured by internal propaganda, people within that message-space will not be able to resist having their own perceptions shaped by it.
So while it's undeniably true that the CCP is not the Chinese people, and that the Chinese people are the principle victims of the CCP, they also are complicit in a collective sense.
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I’m being generous. I tend to think that the Chinese people (or people of any country, really) are victims of propaganda. We’d all be less supportive of our various governments if we weren’t constantly told that we’re the GOOD guys, and our enemies are BAD and EVIL.
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Does that version of hell include transit, affordable housing, education, upwards mobility, and healthcare?
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Yeah: mass transit (transit) into camps (housing) for "re-education" (education), with the chance to get forcefully married to a real Chinese man (social mobility), or end up having your organs harvested (healthcare)
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Chinese healthcare makes American healthcare look good by comparison. It is mostly private and you're expected to bribe the doctors, nurses, orderlies and have a family member stick around the hospital the whole time pestering them or you won't receive care. Same with Education, which is like the American Ivy system times 1000. Housing in China is.. well, just try googling Evergande. Upwards mobility involves either climbing the party hierarchy or "leveling up" from being a rural peasant to being an urban migrant worker with bad hukou.
You got me on transit though, the Chinese have built some amazing trains.
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Yeah that's true. As long as there is good transit, everything is fine. That Hitler guy built the autobahn. Must have been a great leader.
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This article is prime "SelfAwareWolves" material...
Countering this in international media by offering more balanced views for a global audience is near impossible as censorship is rife. There almost seems to be a global compact to control the narrative, a propaganda war powered by today’s digital technology.
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By that, you mean criticism of China's known actions that are detrimental to their neighboring countries and the world?
If you want to call that "anti-China", then sure, but it's an appropriate reason to be, just as appropriate as being "anti-Russia".
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Pro-China Rhetoric Is Off the Charts in Chinese Media
Stop the press!
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China: you can't talk bad about us!!!!
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Just gonna drop an article about Naomi Wu, famous maker, as a counterpoint to all those who keep claiming free speech exists in China.
https://www.hackingbutlegal.com/p/naomi-wu-and-the-silence-that-speaks-volumes
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Westerners? I'm foreign-born Chinese, and you couldn't pay me to enter China. My anti-ccp sentiments combined with their sense of ownership of all Chinese people regardless of birth nation means I'm probably on a low priority list somewhere.
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It's almost like if they want people to not hate their country they should stop being a corrupt authoritarian hellhole
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to be clear: the "they" here is the chinese government rather than the chinese people, correct? your comment is a little ambiguous
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Oh so like India and America, corrupt democratic hellholes?
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China is the one county that could just tell Russia to get out of Ukraine. Same with North Korea. Just look at who they hang out with and you know quite a lot.
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Why would they? The Global South is completely unaligned with the West on the Russia-Ukraine issue. It's an issue between Russia and the West, not a global issue.
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While it is true that insane propaganda is off the charts, for example in my own country Australia we're chaining ourselves to the fading star of the usa and the UK militarily despite having:
- different trade interests
- different geopolitical interests
- different cultural interests
all while the usa government tries it's hardest to undermine our economic policy, erase our culture, and distort our politics towards their own demended lines.
There is zero evidence the chinese government does not want to do the same. They have interfered in our media, our education systems, there has been stupid petty trade squabbles with both "sides" using us for their own ends.
When chinese diplomats speak to our media, even in excruciatingly fair interviews, the pattern is the same slimey deny deny deny and legal quibble that usa diplomats engage in. Their media is insanely critical of Australian life too.
There are no good guys in this power struggle and looking for one is childish thinking.
Even this article refuses to address the notion that the chinese government has ever conducted itself in a condemnable manner.
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As an American, I thought our cultures were relatively similar being both former British colonies. What different cultural interests are you referring to?
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we elected a socialist in the 70s. It ended in a constitutional crisis and his successor was groomed by the CIA. rhymes with certain things no?
we had a publicly owned transport system, telephony, healthcare system, a thriving public service. Then we started getting leaned on.
We had a collectivist culture, government funding for our own media with our own values, then we started getting leaned on.
It goes on.
Even our slang is being replaced, people are pronouncing things your way, the media of the usa is replacing everything and that's intentional government policy.
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Gun culture, car culture, sports culture, political culture.. /s, kinda
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Not Australian or American, but hey it's the internet so why not voice second hand knowledge: I heard Aussies pride themselves on being (relatively) egaliatarian, despising individuals elevating themselves above others. Seems to me about as antithetical to US mentalitity as it goes :)
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McCarthyism's back yo! Or, rather, it never really left.
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McCarthyism has changed because now the "communists" look different and talk different and aren't white.
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Woke is the new Red I guess?
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*Chandran Nair is the founder and CEO of the Global Institute for Tomorrow. He is the author of “Dismantling Global White Privilege: Equity for a Post-Western World” (Penguin Random House, 2022). *
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International sentiment generally negative about country actively committing genocide.
More at 11.
Jokes aside - yeah? Of course there's propaganda about China. I would wager its hard to find a big international power that doesn't have some level of propaganda being spread about it by the other big international powers. But between the propaganda you still find a bunch of real reasons to have negative views toward China's leadership and actions.
Can we add bellicose relations with a lot of their neighbors over the expansionist goals they're pushing?
Does...that make all those things okay then?
you're free to argue the points you have been in the rest of the thread, but genocide denialism is a no-go.
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