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Sadly true. Fuck the CDU and AfD. Nazi helpers and Nazis.
- Did they make a coalition with the new nazi party?
- SPD and Grüne are helping the rise of fascism too even if it's not on purpose. Die Linke are the only ones in parliament actually working against it.
  
  Wanting to leave NATO, withholding weapons from Ukraine and talking to Putin isn't exactly "working against" fascism. That's very much the Neville Chamberlain approach ... but even he came to his sense after the full scale invasion started. Can't say the same for die Linke.
  
  That’s very much the Neville Chamberlain approach …
  That's such revisionist history. Chamberlain wasn't appeasing Germany, he was aligning with Germany against Communist Russia.
  He wasn't surrendering, he was allying with fascism.
  
  Source?
  That seems even more revisionist. If anything I'd have expected it from Winston "I believe in Aryan race science" Churchill.
  Chamberlain was buying time for rearmament. It wasn't actually necessary and it was, in fact, pretty fucking stupid because Germany was rearming faster than France and Britain put together, and his betrayal of Czechoslovakia with their fortified border was even more galling in face of it, but the idea wasn't to ally with Germany as far as I've seen anyone claim.
  
  NATO is a fascist organisation.
  You Germs should know that since they incorporated plenty nazis in the organisation.
  https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/2019/04/04/natos-secret-nazi-past
  
  Without NATO, we're going back into the age of territorial conquests and nationalist revenge campaigns. Russia and China aren't the only countries where this crap is normalized (see Hungary - lot of my fellow Hungarians thinks Slovaks are just Hungarians forced to take up a Slavic language, and in reality they're just a lost tribe of Magyars called "the Tóths").
  
  NATO is liberal and that comes with all of the problems of liberals but in what ways has it functioned as a fascist organisation?
  
  Campists these days are so funny, because now they're getting all their opinions from the US state department.
  
  Don't care, I'd rather live under the neolib European governments any day than a fascist Russian shithole. It's not even a difficult choice. It's not like there's some leftist utopia as an alternative. The neolibs don't murder gay people and don't decriminalize violence against women as a state policy.
  
  Don’t care, I’d rather live under the neolib European governments any day than a fascist Russian shithole.
  I've got some horrible news for you.
  
  The neolibs don’t murder gay people and don’t decriminalize violence against women as a state policy. LOL where do you get your news from?
  That's the fascist Banderites you support.
  https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2019/03/ukraine-activists-at-womens-solidarity-event-must-be-protected-from-attacks/
  
  Isn't Amnesty an evil neoliberal org? Or are you a weird kind of tankie that doesn't really have issue with it?
  Regardless of that, it's just like saying "Palestine deserved it" because Hamas and radical Islam.
  
  I'll take government failures to control their pigs over actually siccing the murder pigs on the protestors.
  
  Ok Tankie.
  
  shouldn't you be beating up anti-genocide protesters while doing the Musk salute?
  
  A tankie on .world? Funny
  
  We're having all the fun ridiculing all the fash and the lib enablers.
  
  Good for you .world isn't as restrictive as the tankie triade
  
  Without meaning this as a defense of Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine: go check .world mod history, every other deleted comment is "Russian troll" or "disinformation" or equivalents. If you defend a policy of censoring points of view more charitative to Russia than western narratives be open about it, it's fine, just be aware that you're actually doing it
  
  Putin suckers of every calibre, including "not everything is this clear cut" motherfuckers should be shut as diligently as nazis. Their "viewpoints" are harmful and should be censored.
  
  I wouldn't know what that is.
  And restrictive is a euphemism here in this circle jerk of manufactured consent and overcensoring
  
  Had to protect the surplus profits of Capitalism at all costs. A century of wealth needed to be consolidated in the hands of the ubermensch. You know, Mohammed Bin Salmen and Amancio Ortega and Elon Musk.
  
  Bold statement. Do you have any examples? I would disagree, but maybe I just don't quite understand what you meant.
  
  SPD is just standing by not doing anything (except being corrupt), basically silent complicity. The greens are also not clearly positioning themselves against the anti immigrant hatred, but they are still doing much better than the rest imo.
  
  What should the SPD be doing?
  
  Behave like social democrats, push to fund infrastructure and school upgrades (instead of defunding them), not have a leading candidate that was involved with the biggest tax fraud scheme in recent history, etc
  
  I nisunderstood, I thought you were calling them to do something about AfD more directly.
  
  The best way to fight fascism is with meaningful policy thay helps the working class. The best way to help it is proving that liberal democracy consists in getting to choose which party gets to enforce austerity this term
  
  Not on purpose?
  That Baerbock is a horrible warmonger
  
  Considering that Putin is the biggest fascist threat for all of Europe, your statement is laughable. The Left agree that Putin is doing bad things in Ukraine and other countries but their message is that the domestic social net is more important than Europe's survival and all weapon deliveries must stop. Let's talk instead.
  If policies were up to them, they'd be helping fascism almost as much as outright Putin sheep
  
  How is Putin the biggest fascist threat for Europe? Fascism was literally born in Europe and exported elsewhere, we have Nazi and fascist parties getting consistent growth election after election in basically every EU country.
  Believe it or not, Europe isn't at war with Russia, we should be struggling in favour of diplomacy to reduce both our and their military expenditure... which is hard to do when riding hard the NATO wave. Ffs Europe was building gas pipelines with Russia 3.2 years ago, we're really still capable of separating ourselves from fascist US, reduce military expenditure with fascist Russia, and take care of our own fascist problems.
  
  It is so fucking sad that the tolerance "paradox" goes all the way to fucking war.
  Like you literally have to fight a war against war seekers if you don't want war. Like fucking hell, why can't we at least be chill there?
- De-Nazification never happened.
  
  *in west Germany
  
  The Stasi had it's share of fascist turncoats.
  
  And a lot more hanged Nazis.
- AfD has a guy called Helferich... A funny translation would be Helperling... I can imagine his role and his recap when they ruined Germany and Europe again.

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