Will using non-gmail hurt my chance of getting hired?
I'm using Proton right now. Someone suggest I should get a Gmail instead for higher chance of success. Is that true? How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?
No, I actually purchased a domain and mapped it to my proton mail, every time I share my business email, I get compliments towards how professional I am.
If someone legitimately cares what email provider you use and uses that against you in the hiring process, chances are it’s not a place you’d want to work anyway.
No, they don't care unless you been denied once, auto reject, they will reject if you apply again with the same email address. I used different emails for different job resumes, I rotate to new ones, if use one more than a week
As many have said, it shouldn't matter.
Personally, I have been known to look at email addresses because I assess everything the resume gives me. No, I don't really care what provider you choose, but it's a tiny bit of information.
So if your email name is "BigBootyQT" then I have a glimpse of your personality and how you may or may not fit in the role. That's a real example BTW. It also might bear light in other ways, say if you're applying for a job in cybersscurity but you're using a yahoo email. Yeah, that's a negative mark.
Will any of this be THE reason I ditch somebody? No. But it weighs with the rest of it. I would not disqualify somebody for a typo for instance, but it is a negative because that should not have occurred (especially of the role requires attention to detail).
That probably depends more on what is before the @. Is your mailadress a gamertag or some random thing you came up with as a teen? "Superbunny69" probably has a lower chance of success than "lastn.firstname"
Maybe I am an odd duck, but when I have been the guy looking at resumes and shit, I made a note not to read peoples email addresses. I don't care if your email is cumdumpster19 I care if you know how to configure a firewall. But I think most people look for reason to round file a resume and not reasons to say yes to an applicant.
IT sector probably is a lot different in hiring practices than some typical management jobs
This is exactly my take as well. The means by which you got your CV on my desk is irrelevant to me. In fact, the CV itself is like the pretty picture on a bottle of wine that persuades me to choose it over the other basically identical pinots. And shorts and a t–shirt looks as professional to me as a suit. Actually better because suits give me C suite vibes. I literally only want to have a conversation and see how much you sound like you've done this before and know how to not fuck it up.
The roles I've hired for require formal presentation of work/studies with a certain level of attention to detail, and more internal politics than I care to admit.
So while its never the sole deciding factor in a resume I do put weight on spelling, formatting, and general professionalism. If your email is firekitten22@aol.com, or jon@sirfapsalot.net I'm not immediately binning it, but you are starting from a disadvantage. stephanie@harmlessdomain.com is always gonna be just fine though.
And "firstname.purpose"?
Unfortunately, I have seen some CEO's that will refuse employees using anything other than major services, like Google, Apple, etc.
I did see one specifically mention he will not interview anyone with a Proton email address because it wasn't considered "professional".
It's certainly ridiculous, but big business is ridiculous.
You Def don't want to work there then. Problem solved. Ceo is a fuck-face.
No job/recruiter/interviewer will ever care about what email provider you use.
It depends.
I judge people harshly for still using yahoo email. You disgusting fucks know who you are. Just look at yourselves. Ugh. /s
i still have the yahoo account i created back in the 90's and i can't rid of it because of the nostalgia it inspires, so i mostly use it for spam whenever some random site wants me to sign up.
What do you think they think when they see an AOL email
I don't think it should matter and if it did matter, do you really want to work for such small-minded judgmental people? The people who would care about an uncommon email domain would probably also see it as a "red flag" if you say that you don't use certain social media sites. Don't waste your time playing pointless image games.
Are you trying to be hired by Google? Then, maybe ;)
More seriously, I don't know if this matters. Do people really care about the address?
I've been using my own domain names for decades, what I'm using behind that name doesn't show. But I'm also old enough I don't need to worry about (un)pleasing any potential employer.
if your domain is like cock.li or smth then maybe, but protonmail.com sounds pretty professional
How risky is it for Google sanning those mails in terms of privacy?
Afraid to tell you but Google already scans thousands emails if you use proton or not. The company you are sending mail to likely uses gmail internally. Does not matter how private your end is if the other end is wide open.
Though I am not convinced that anyone would care if you use a non gmail account for any technical role. Hell add a custom domain to proton and you can hide the fact you are using proton and create a even more professional looking address.
I tried, and failed hard. When I bought my domain 10 years ago, I didn't put efforts in reseaching domain reputation and got a .xyz tld. Now that tld smmes to be abused by spammer and also affecting my mail which go straight into spam folder.
I work in HR. No one cares.
@umamiwasbi Getting hired for what exactly?
My gut feeling is it might decrease your chance of getting hired by an average soul destroying big corporate, but increase your chances of being hired by a better company that values autonomy and people who think differently.
This can be applied to many other aspects of how you come across. Better to be genuine and let that exclude you from the bad roles, and improve your chances with fewer but better ones.
I use public@mydomain. Hasn't negatively affected me. I created a burner Gmail account for a Google Meet interview and then tossed it aside after. I've been hired for two jobs in eight years using the public@ address.
I’ve hired people and my wife has been in a position to evaluate applicants for a job.
What we have learned is that choosing an applicant is super subjective. Different things impress my wife and I in an applicant. (We work at different places)
Additionally, once I instructed applicants to do something specific in their application, but someone didn’t follow the instructions. Turns out the thing I said not to do when applying was actually much more helpful than I thought.
So even though a few people applied the “right” way, the girl who did it “wrong” got the job.
So when you apply, it’s mostly a matter of checking the right boxes and getting lucky.
I don't see any reason why it would affect your application(s) in the slightest. A good CV is a good CV. You could have @goatfondler.com for all I care.
Great! I can finally relax about my @ryongnamsan.edu.kp email.
When places look at resumes, they're looking at communication skills, education, experience, and work history. They're looking for lies and exaggerations. The poor bastards have probably been through 60 resumes a day and they're just hoping to find a keyword here or there that isn't like the other 60 resumes.
If they're unscrupulous they're also looking at your name and trying to figure out your race/gender.
As long as the email address and content you provide exudes professionalism, and the email works, They don't care at all.
As far as privacy, forget it. The business you are working with is already certainly using Microsoft or Google, they're vetting your email address and content through a spam filter. In most cases you are private email has no longer private the second it gets to any company.
I thought Google Workspace mailboxes aren't scanned?
They do say that. And I can't say they'd tell us if they started. But for the moment let's assume they still don't. I also can't say that they'd tell us if the government asked them to. But let's put a pin in that too.
They do not claim not to scan the SMTP and mail transport. We know that they do scan it try to discern spam.
Do you trust them not to sell that juicy email they just scanned from an external email address?
Google Workspaces still have spam filtering in place, it'd be unusable if not. Admins can create rules for additional scanning if needed. You could also check the MX record to see if you're actually sending to Google first, or a third party scanner who then forwards to Google Workspace.
A lot of companies use Google mail anyways so your emails will be scanned regardless.
It shouldn’t matter. When you get hired, they’ll give you a new email address to use.
Employers most of all want to know that you're reachable and willing to jump hoops. If you want to be seen and hired by the status quo, then yes you will need to show that you pray to the same Holy Trinity as them:
LinkedIn GitHub
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Gmail
You can then feed this professional gmail account your.name@gmail.com into your private Proton.
It will not hurt your chances.
I would be surprised if this mattered, but I don't know for sure. The more serious problem would be if your sent emails get caught in their spam filter.
My boss never cared about my disroot email. He just asked what is was
seems like companies who know what proton is, would have no problem with it. some of their people would use it themselves.
companies who never heard of it wouldn't have any bad impression about it.
if they never heard about it but are wary/scared of everything they never heard of, might not be safe to work there. that's the kind of place that would test their workers' loyalty randomly, and not reciprocate any loyalty they receive.
I use first@firstlast.tld I bought my firstlast.tld several years ago. Figure it would look good. I then put a modified resume on my domain but when I started to think about being a security professional that didn't seem like a good idea. I now have my domain bring up the IP, browser, and few other pieces of info and show it to whoever goes to the site. It is either that or blank page and I think the first is more fun.
Protonmail is a widely used and common email provider. There is no reason why an employer would be prejudiced against your application based on you having a Protonmail address. I think a far more common thing employers think about when seeing applicants' email addresses are things like "haha, they're still using their email address from when they were 8 of alexdaboss at gmail dot com", but I highly doubt they care about what domain it's on unless you've got like a pornhub.com address or something.
I use my own first@last.com (well actually it's last-net.com because I couldn't secure any better domain. It's too common.)
Never had an issue.
It's all good, especially now that they have proton.me when it was protonmail.com I had some issues saying it over the phone as some people didn't understand and it is long to spell.
Shouldn't make a damn difference! Ask this person to explain their thought process
Proton leaked a user's IP address to law enforcement, you should seek alternatives. source: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/
They complied with a swiss court order, what's surprising there?
Alternatives like Tuta would be subject to the jurisdiction of the Germany, and Germany's laws are not as good as Switzerland, as they are part of the 14 Eyes. You don't actually believe alternatives like Tuta would defy a court order, right?
(Pro tip: Maybe use a VPN to hide your IP. ProtonVPN is subject to different laws as Protonmail and if the activist have used the VPN, their IP would not have been leaked)
They should not record the IP in the first place. It looks like you are right about using a VPN on top of their email service according to this.