[SeanyBoyDraws] Lactose Intolerance Erasure

I’m allergic to milk. Trying to explain that to people sometimes goes like this:
“I’m allergic to milk.”
“You mean you’re lactose intolerant?”
“No, I’m allergic to milk. I can digest it just fine.”
“What do you mean?”
“Milk. I’m allergic to it.”
“What happens when you drink it?”
“My throat starts to swell up and get itchy. It’s hard to breathe for a while.”
“OOOOOH. You’re allergic to milk.”
“Yeah.”
- An acquaintance of mine will literally die from anaphylactic shock if he ingests anything with even traces if milk...think severe peanut allergy, but for milk. It's not the lactose, it's some protein in it or something, and fucking everything contains traces of milk.
  
  God damn, pour one out for your friend, that's an incredibly rough allergy. Hopefully they have some reliably milk-free food sources.
  EDIT: specifically pour out the glass of milk for your friend they might accidently drink it.
- Hey! Me too.
  Cows milk only. I can enjoy goat and sheep.
  
  You leave those Goats and Sheep alone!
  
  I can enjoy goat and sheep.
  Like... blended up?
- Me too! Last time I had a reaction the hives lasted for 8 hours.

The boomer crusade against alternative milks is one of the weirder forms of toxic masculinity and smacks of subservience to and brainwashing by the milk lobby.
- They tried to narrowly define that can be called milk. Thankfully it did not pass.
  As a funny aside, this was my autocomplete suggestions when looking up this bill:
  I would imagine there is a funny story behind this.
  
  Here in Germany they did succeed with it. Oat milk has to be called something like "Hafer-Drink" (note the anglicism) (literally "oat drink").
  
  Duckduckgo made up a little song about milk and I'm glad you were there to witness it
- the Dairy industry lobby is powerful.
  
  A sad reminder that Aubrey Plaza did a Real Milk campaign.
  
  All the Amish influence.
  
  So many things boomers consider normal is just brainwashing from some lobby or other
- I mostly agree with you, but it's not great to generalise about an entire generation some negative aspect of people that applies to many people, regardless of age.

Average boy who eats soy
- helya

Completely wild to shit on soy milk in coffee.
Like, if you're trying to be toxic about your coffee, how do you even justify diluting the coffee with milk in the first place? Can't even do toxicity properly, get real
- Since plant based milks are just basically water with the plant stuff in it, can't we make coffee milk and put that in our coffee as a milk alternative?
  
  My sibling in Christ, that's just coffee
- I do barley coffee with oat milk called "not milk".
  
  It's f—in' barleh!

I didn't realize I was lactose intolerant for the longest time. I just assumed everyone had some food that gave them the booboos and it was just the price of living. I thought intolerance was synonymous with allergy, and since it didn't kill me, I just assumed I didn't have it.
How I found out:
Me: I sure do love ice cream. Sucks that it makes me stomach hurt.
Friend: So you're lactose intolerant?
Me: Oh, no, no. Ice cream and milk have just always messed up my stomach.
Friend:
Me:
Friend: That's what lactose intolerance is.
- A ton of adults legitimately don't know that most people develop some degree of lactose intolerance as they age. They think lactose intolerance is like a rare disorder rather than the norm for mammals. It feels like the kind of thing they should have taught us in health class.
  "Around your mid 20s you should pay attention to if milk makes you fart a lot."
- Same with my younger brother. He once told me that he has diarrhea least one time a day. He tought that this is a completely normal thing and is not willing to change anything. He would rather shit his pants than give up milk.
  
  I thought everyone was dealing with it. Like, mine happens to be ice cream, someone else gets mudbutt from chicken wings or something. But we keep going because flavor demands sacrifice.
  Turns out that was not the case. 🙃

"One hot bean juice with cold bean juice, please."
- "And can I get that with some of the sweet bean juice, please?"
  (Chocolate)

That's why I order with almond milk because nut juice is more manly.
- I like oat milk because it's like goat milk but with less G.

Oat milk is superior than any other option for coffee drinks and I will die on this hill
- They recently switched to oat milk in our office and it’s just nasty to me. I tried to like it but no I just can’t do it.
  
  I get that, some brands don't taste good at all. Weirdly enough, I really like the great value stuff. Planet oat or whatever's decent too
  
  It depends on the brands I guess. but if you drink it like that and with coffee, its not amazing.
  But mixed with cereals, cocoa it's really good.
  There a brand in France that makes a vegetal milk with, macadamia, hazelnut, and almond. It's truly delicious.
  I've started drinking milk alternative because I would get belly ache when drinking cold milk. And I saw the episode on kurzgesagt about milk. Where they say it's better for the environment.
  In the end I'm still eating regular dary like cheese and yogurt.
- Oat milk is good, but I can't figure out how to make it foam up really nicely like cow's milk when making a latte ): that's about the only time I drink milk nowadays, so the lactaid is right next to the machine.
  
  Get an "extra creamy" oat milk. Some brands even make a barista blend. The extra fat helps to form a fine and stable foam
  
  "Barista" oat milk has been common for like a decade. How have you both never seen it and never found out about it?
- Unfortunately I can't check that, because oats cause my intestines to go postal
  
  Oof. Sorry to hear
- Well, at least ecologically, because oat grows everywhere. Btw, coffee has a really bad footprint too.
- I also enjoy the occasional oatmilk latte but recently was reading something about how oats have all sorts of pesticides that can make their way into the milk
  
  And dairy cows are shot up with antibiotics and hormones. Gotta pick your poison.
  
  Is there an agricultural product that you eat that does not contain pesticides in some quantity?

Do you want to hear the story about how I figured out how I had lactose intolerance after eating 3 helpings of an ice cream dessert with extra whipped cream?
- I'm in
  
  It involved farting all the way home. Like a puff escaping with every step walking a few blocks home. I was so damn glad to be walking late at night. And I just felt miserable with my bubbly, knotty guts the whole night and the next day.
  Seriously, I love ice cream and eat as much as I can get my hands on - but nothing in the world would make we want to go through that again. So happy for lactase tablets and vegan options.
- Been there, done that, would still eat a whole cheesecake in one sitting. Only slight regrets.
- Going number two afterwards and accidentally launching yourself into orbit?

I don't understand why you'd drink a soy caffè latte, because I don't understand why you'd drink a caffè latte, because I don't understand why you'd drink any type of coffee.
- Same bro. Same.
- this post offends me, but at the same time, good point lmao

Real milk contains mammal estrogen instead of just the plant kind.

Then you take it black, like my heart.
- But black coffee and espresso are two completely different things. Are you suggesting instead they get an Americano?
  
  Filter coffee. Only way to have it.
  I'll go as far as Turkish coffee, but Americano doesn't taste good at all.
  
  No, you can easily take espresso-based beverages "black", too. Or rather, you can easily make them not-black by adding milk, which is pretty common for americanos.

Do these people also only eat plain boiled rice for fear of soy sauce?
- The rice in general might be too exotic for them
  
  Imagine not enjoying fried rice...

Like... what is this arbitrary ranking you have there that put soy milk below milk?
- in one episode of the culture war the right wing focused on soy as leftist and woke and disgusting because it contains phytoestrogens, which are very unhelpfully named and don't actually function like human estrogen but they love to pretend they do. there's also vague bigotry because wow soy is sooo different and different is bad. there's also the fetishization of history and white men's culture of drinking cow milk, and if you are lactose intolerant they probably also expect you to just deal with the pain and the shits because a real man must always experience pain or whatever.
  
  IMO the real issue with alternative milks is that they're popular with left-leaning people, because of concerns about the environment or animal welfare. And rightwingers hate everything that might make the world a better place and/or is popular with left-leaning people.
  
  WTF soy bean is such an important source of protein besides animal products
  
  Soy aggravates my IBS, and I am forever getting people looking at me funny because avoiding soy has become a right-wing talking point. I hate it so much.

Milk is for babies

Nut milk comes from male cows.

I put soy milk in my coffee so I can pretend I'm becoming a girl because of the (phyto)estrogen.
- There is actual estrogen in milk from other mammals

I learned that we should not tolerate intolerance!

Real milk is also the product of vast, unsustainable torture complexes.

Live and let live.

Btw, is there a evolutionary cost to creating lactase? Because, why do we stop with it usually and only keep it if it has huge advantages?
- I would guess that humans have been around for what, 250k years? And that the vast majority of that didn't involve a whole lot of milk after age 4.
  So it wouldn't have been to much advantage to be able to metabolize lactose.
  
  No, there is, you get more from your cattle, and on a individual level, less likely to starve.
  Keeping Lactase happened at least twice; north europe and a group in west africa.
- Yes. It costs calories and nutrients.
  
  But why then creating lactose in milk at all? Fat alone doesn't suffice?