I love the future.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha This guy just discredit any future movie involving an FBI agent for the next 75 years. We knew america had a under-education problem, but man you guys are something.
- Germany just had a sweeping far right election, and Argentina has had a libertarian at the helms for a bit now. A ton of south Asian countries have had hardcore conservative views for a while now, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Canada shifts right next election. There are basically few corners of the earth where populism/right wing ideology isn’t growing and expanding. This isn’t an American education system problem, it’s world wide. The political elites in your country just have you convinced that it’s America that’s now the problem, which then creates a new wave of populism in your country. It’s a self eating snake.
  Not that I’m disagreeing that our slapping of allies isn’t problematic. This is just something that is clearly growing everywhere and the people of Lemmy love saying “America bad” as the same exact shit is happening in your country. If you’re an American expand your news beyond our shores. The grass is unfortunately turning to shit everywhere. We’re in for a rough decade together.
  
  Germany just had a sweeping far right election
  you can't say 20% a 'sweeping'. The situation is worse at other places. And thanks to true multi party democracy, AfD probably won't be in government anyway.
  
  The US is literally in control of fascist now, it's not nearly as bad in Germany, not that it's good but there is a big difference
  
  Let's be clear here, the right extremist party got over 20% which is really bad for sure, but the mid-right party rules out working with them in a coalition no matter what. That's rather different from where the rest of the republicans and many democrats fall over themselves to do whatever the lunatic fringe says. Further, the American billionaires are strong influencers of these trends in other countries. The core of the disease is the USA even when there are symptoms everywhere.
  
  Didn't the German election end well? AfD isn't in charge, and the winner is pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia, and pro-EU independence of the US.
  
  Last I saw (as in, a few mins ago), all the major players were refusing to talk to AfD.
  
  Argentina has had a libertarian at the helms for a bit now.
  milei is not a libertarian, he's a generic hard right conservative.
  
  Although you have to admit, it is near impossible to get such a perfect dream team of scammers elsewhere.
  
  The centre right in Germany won, the afd came in second
  The CDU has also made it very clear they're not going to work with the AfD
  
  The cope is strong with this one. "There's other people being dumb too!"
  Yup, and the source of this is disinformation from adversaries like Russia, China, and Iran being laundered through US social media companies to made to appear legitimate. Well I guess TikTok isn't American (yet) so I guess China somehow got into the game of laundering disinformation too.
  And the trend is actually incumbents losing power, not necessarily a right wing shift. You see the disinformation can be a blunt tool so it just results in people hating their own governments. The UK had an election where the Conservative party lost... as they were the incumbent.
  But nowhere has the government been turned over to greedy businessmen to the degree the US has been. Argentina has their President briefly promoting a memecoin, sure, but he may face a lot of repercussions for doing that. Fun Fact: the Argentinian memecoin was launched by the same people that launched $MELANIA, and no one in the US cares about it nor do they care about the $TRUMP memecoin. It's open season for grifting Americans, because it's the gritters that are now in charge of everything in the US.
  But go on making excuses for why it's all ok. I'm sure that will result in fixing the problems in your country.
  
  capitalism is the common denominator here.
  fascism is capitalism in crisis.
  
  Living in the twenties.
- I guarantee he doesn't actually believe this shit. He's just a grifter grifting just like the rest of the Whitehouse circus cast. The only exception might be Robert F. Kennedy Jr. That freak show might actually believe the shit he spews.
  
  That freak show might actually believe the shit he spews.
  He may, he may not, but the brain worm does, and he's given to its will.
  
  Word is when he was trying to get appointed he went around telling congress he doesnt actually believe that shit but the rubes eat it up
- pls get me out of here
  
  Refugee Application: Yes, belonging to my home country risks personal harm
- Sorry, some of us did what we could...

“you believed my medical lies once. you’ll fall for it again!”
- Why did all the replies get removed?
  
  Modlog says "argument nuke." But it doesn't look like either of the two users who's argument was nuked were being uncivil about it.
  Once again: Your job as mod isn't to shut down arguments. It's to keep them from devolving into insult slinging or rule-breaking behavior.
  
  Probs because the dude legit runs the FBI now?

Gotta love people who don’t want to take a vaccine that was designed by the absolute top experts in the field and extensively tested, but have no problem popping pills some grifter on the interweb sold them.
- They look a lot like the fiber pills I take. Wouldn't be surprised if they're just branded fiber pills, and the massive shit is proof that your body is detoxing the spike proteins.

We're fucked. This guy is now in charge of the FBI and now has the power to investigate and charge people with federal crimes.
- But more important, the power not to investigate people. Wink wink

"Warrior Essentials"
"Spike Gangsters"
Do the incels he's trying so hard to market to understand how stupid these names are?
- Using several of them at once is even funnier - they didn't feel confident enough with just one, and got "Manly man's sigma razor spike gamgster king warrior essential basics"
  
  Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum

Shedders? Do these people think vaccines are contagious?
- Yes, pay attention to mention of "shedding". They think that vaccination causes the PT in question to shuck it off as though they were Pigpen from Charlie Brown cartoon.
  
  they should wear a mask, so they don't catch it
- It's not even applicable to most vaccines.
  Basically polio spreads through poop, and this is your shedding. Oral Polio Vaccine does this as it's a weakened form of the polio virus and exhibits the same spread and provides vaccination indirectly to others. The US uses E-IPV, which is inactive and harmless and doesn't have this spread.
  You'll only find OPV being used in countries with very inadequate medical access as it can be administered orally(hence the name). Only downside is that if you are very immunocompromised, there is a non zero chance you get polio and a chance you suffer from paralysis.
  Flu vaccines, covid vaccine, literally anything else doesn't have this "shedding". It's literally one vaccine that isn't even administered in the united states.
  
  I wish people understood the differences between types of vaccines more. I despise the "vaccines good" Vs "vaccines bad" thinking. Each of them are separate treatments and like any medication have pros/cons for each individual recieving them. I think a lot of people learn about Jenner and the smallpox vaccine and assume all other vaccines work the same way.
- Yes.
- Well, the grifters don't. The multitude of morons they're scamming do.
- Stupid as it sounds, yes
  https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/may/06/debunking-anti-vaccine-hoax-about-vaccine-shedding/
- Vaccines can shed (sometimes we have to add that as an seondqry endpoint to clinical trials), but not even remotely in the way these idiots are saying.
- Were you assuming these people understood even the basics of what a vaccine is?

I don't like being alive, I already didn't, but I like it less now. I crave the afterlife.
- I also choose that guy's dead wife
  
  What? Who;s dead wife?
  
  M'necro
- I believe in non-linear reincarnation. I hope I come back sometime before technology. Maybe even not as a human. I need a break cycle.
  
  if it's non-linear, maybe a reincarnation in a parallel universe without those grifters would be to your taste?
  
  My luck I'd be reincarnated as a water bear just in time to be shot to the moon... where I'll eventually crash.

These people literally don't know what mRNA is, they believe it's the same thing as DNA because it sounds vaguely similar. It's good to see actual experts calling him out though! We really need more of this.
- These people literally don’t know what mRNA is, they believe it’s the same thing as DNA because it sounds vaguely similar. It’s good to see actual experts calling him out though! We really need more of this.
  People being clueless about mRNA is an abject failure of the US education system.

Out of curiosity, I read one of their scientific studies on the website. The first one I read was a literature review (no tests were actually done) that said "one study says the supplement does nothing and another two sources say the study was done wrong so it could maybe be beneficial???" Wow. Such strong evidence.
- Barely anyone would go to the same extent as you to seek evidence. The target market are more than happy to see any citations at all.

I wish I could set aside my convictions and care for others to make money this easily.
- I feel like this is the key reason why the worst people are the most successful. I cannot count the number of opportunities I've passed over in life that would have just required me to lie to someone, to inflate my worth, to take something that I haven't earned, and so on. It's so natural for me to think in terms of morality and equity behind my decision making that I don't even consider alternatives.
  And thus I'm over 40 and broke and will die working.
  edit: just in retrospect, I figured I would mention my father. He was a man who was remarkably similar to our current president/king. Same hair and everything, the only difference was he drank like a fish. He had ZERO qualms about lying, he carried bizarre lies to his grave just to keep anyone the satisfaction of calling him out on even the smallest things. Lying came so easily to him that he built a multi-million dollar empire on lies, on borrowing money from one lender to pay another, of drug dealers and gangs and organized crime, of the very worst people in the world following him around like scavenger jackals hoping to catch a shred or crumb from the waste and excess my father surrounded himself with. I watched millions of dollars pass through his hands (and up his nose) and he never felt anything about it, he felt like it was never enough, that he deserved more and the people who suffered for it deserved their pain. I am telling this story because a lot of people think it's not real, that there are not truly dishonest people in the world, and everything we're all so contentious about is just misunderstandings and differences of perspective.
  NO. There are lying liars who will look you in the face and tell complete falsehoods to you and smile as they do so, and they will delight in it. You are not aware of human darkness and you need to get it together. You NEED to understand how bad people can be, and how much people really LIE.
  
  Cheers to good conscious. Also, grab any chance to lead a good change
  
  Exactly. It's not some cosmic battle or any of the other shit some people will use to grift, but some people are liars who more or less don't give half a shit who they hurt to get what they want (or maybe they do, some might, just not enough to not do it). And I'm not calling for cruelty or anything to them (many of them will be the first to advocate cruelty to "bad people"), just awareness, caution, and caring for your fellow humans.
  There are other types of evil out there too. The banal variety has been made famous, but there's an evil made of fear, an evil made of self righteousness without reflection, an evil made of tribalism… I also think distance from the consequences of one's actions is a contributer. Power makes you a less moral person and all that.
  Also, your father's life sounds miserable and exhausting. I bet he thought people who did things honest and built community were fools despite us often being happier than folks like him
  
  I guess our compensation is being able to be content with what we already have, and not having to constantly worry about someone finding out.
  
  They aren't the most successful, they just have the most money.
- You can literally put anything in these unregulated supplements. There's no restrictions. If you think swallowing a few fl grams of ox testicle will make you a boner having manly man. Then you can sell that to people. Wait.. maybe I don't need all these morals...
  
  But then youd be a putz so really a no win situation

Wait until he finds about the big room full of brass pipes feeding oxygen and nutrients to the brain of J Edgar Hoover, from where he is still running absolutely everything.
- Elon enters the FBI's inner sanctum and must solve the Vat's riddles three in order to prove he's not a gay communist
  
  If only he had spent some skill points in Charisma, he'd have the dialogue option to talk Hoover into self destructing, but alas
  
  I sure hope we get some crazy satirical video game from this time in history

a part of me hopes this is dangerous/lethal. then maybe we can darwin ourselves out of this nightmare
- Sadly I don't think the shysters and oligarchs creating this current shit show are going to darwin themselves. They aren't stupid, just evil.
  
  Some of them are pretty stupid, just not stupid enough to be a self-resolving problem
  
  good point
- really like the use of Darwin as a verb, imma borrow it for a minute thanks.

Is their logo "uwu" or is it the shrug emoticon?
- Looks like udders to me. The deep state has been cows all along!
  
  or some very hanging boobs
  
  wouldn't surprise me, antivax movement has a strong association with the raw milk cheesebreathers.
- I imagine it like "if you are stupid enough to buy this dont know what to do with you" kind of shrug
- Looks like cock and balls to me.
  
  Equal length.

Of course the URL has to appeal to the wannabe driving his lifted pickup truck, it has the word warrior in it. You get all these meatheads with delusions of being some sort of Spartan badass because they took 300 as a documentary.
- And ironically enough they have more in common with the Persian "soldiers" which are just fodder for their God King.
  
  Don't be silly.
  The Persian Empire had basically abolished slavery. Xerxes is noted in particular for being a far kinder conquerer than the Greeks were proven time and again.
  Whatever you can say about the fledgling democracy of the slave state Athens, it would be destroyed by Sparta eventually.
  The wrong side won at Thermopylae.
- You get all these meatheads with delusions of being some sort of Spartan badass because they took 300 as a documentary.
  And are either too stupid or too ashamed to recognize all the thinly veiled homoerotic themes
  
  My dad occasionally bought gay erotica when he was looking for muscle magazines, there's A LOT of crossover.
- They probably think 300 means 300lbs…

Does anyone else see a limp dicknballs as the logo on the pill?
- Hahah, I didn't before you pointed it out. It's perfect, a small dick and a loose old man sack as the logo for "warrior essentials" manly alpha man supplement scam.
  
  I hope it makes their nuts actually fall off.
- Not proud of it, but I saw a steroid clit instead.

Seems like something the Ninja Turtles would need.

Is that actually him? Just yesterday I fell for "Kash Patel News" on Twitter, and found his right handle there is Kash_Patel, but this seems to be a different platform.
- seems like the platform is called truthsocial, there are links in here:
  https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-fbi-director-kash-patel-vaccine-detox-supplements-rcna182434
  I would assume if this account was not real he would have sued them for using his name for commercial purposes
  
  I would assume if this account was not real he would have sued them for using his name for commercial purposes
  That's assuming he's informed and self-aware enough to notice it's even happening.
  
  Thank you!
  With the links I could also scroll though some posts and saw some other people using the handle to congratulate him on his new position. Seems real to me.

Vaccines are evolution at work. So long as they work, you live longer and have a higher chance of reproducing. This is not a difficult concept. My genetic line is going on as long as I can throw it.

Looked at the site. It is vitamins, salt, food extracts, and Spermidine. Spermidine is a polyamine. I remember the first time I resuspended some in lab, it became clear from the smell why it is called SPERMidine. Wonder if the customers know there is a cheaper way to get a daily oral dose of Spermidine.
- Trump's dreamteam got an infinite supply of it from sucking eachother off.
- Sure, it's cheaper, but I'm on that 24/7 grind to make money for billionaires man, I ain't got time for the real deal! But just one of these pills gives me enough shame and self-hatred to last for the day!
  
  I respect the hustle man good on you for guzzling oligarchy cum on the clock like a baasuse or like Elon would say, I am become cum

peak scammer performance

Alright I'm not sure how its even possible this is a product, there is absolutely no mechanism where this is even remotely possible. This is just straight up fraud.
- It's a supplement. No fda rules about it.
- I think you could sell it by being very vague and not claiming it actually does anything.
  As an example, just rattle off a bunch of insanity as necessary to convince idiots that you "get it" like "keep your blood pure", then do what lots of supplements do with super vague meaningless claims like "Contains Iron which essential for your blood to function properly"
- I'm feeling kind of ok with people that believe vaccines magnetize their blood spending their money on this.
  
  If only it didn't fund more pointless products and amplify their marketing. Wish they could spend it on mental health or education instead. :(

If anyone is calling you a warrior they're scamming you. It's bizarre to me how many people don't get that.

This guy should be, at the very least, removed from office. I don't care if it's handcuffs or a body bag.
Fuck. I just want to thanos snap away all the republicans. The absolute worst people.

Ah, the USA is so fucking doomed unless as a people we push these facists and grifters out of office.
- The time for “just vote” is long gone. Now people need to actually do something.
  
  The Republicans currently hold 218 seats in the House of Representatives. The Democrats hold 215. Two seats are currently vacant and will be up for special election on April 1st. If the Democrats win those elections then it reduces the Republicans' lead to a single seat.
- Now might be a good time to consider using those guns mentionned in your constitution....
  
  That's always the struggle, just like marching up to the manager's office to demand better. Yeah you all get fired up and heated in the break room, but when you actually hit the stairs, can you trust them to follow? Or do they just want to complain and keep the status quo?
  This irritating effect of individualism and mistrust is why we struggle to cooperate. There's so few unifying ideals anymore.
  The other problem is a simple matter of logistics. How do you actually make your stand to do something good, and not just be a group of easily snuffed rabblerousers that get quietly put down, or worse, hurt the people you're fighting for?
  Idiot fascist movements seem far easier to motivate because you simply need to ask "Hate something? Hate everything? Blaming someone else? Show up and scream something to feel like you matter! Violence not guaranteed but encouraged."
  True, we're collectively against President Musk and his weird little orange purse poodle, but nobody understands practical tactical leadership to actually gain any kind of momentum. Everybody's just trying to simultaneously shout over the crowd or worse, infighting each other over superficial ideals.
  It's bleak.
  We can legally dislodge them if we fight very heavily to install sane people in local and state levels, but the limp noodle Democratic Party must be seen as a broken better-than-nothing tool at this point. They won't save us, and they need to be replaced as soon as possible with something that's up for the job.
- Lmao. Good luck with that. You have had since November to gear up for that. You cowards won't do shit.
- bit late for that
  
  No it's not. It's not too late to start resisting, but every day that ticks by makes it harder.
- Is it a grift? Absolutely. But fascist? Come on now. Overusing that word accomplishes nothing except drain it of all meaning.

I was planning on starting a website that will "use your device's wifi to purge any 5g nanitesfrom your body" with a "cleansing signal" for only $19.99. (For entertainment purposes only - there are no health benefits guaranteed or claimed by this site)
- You forgot to mention AI somewhere in there.
  
  Faux (hopefully I don't get banned like on reddit) news hates AI, so I don't think that would help
- In musk's deregulatory hellscape, the disclaimer is likely not even necessary now.

Being a criminal is practically a requirement for a post in this administration.
- Not necessarily. You have to be under-educated and proud of it.

"Warrior Essentials" is exactly the name of a snake oil brand id expect moron maga alpha wannabes to ignorantly fall for. They're so fucking easy to grift.
- I gOt 3% Scandinavian DNA, i'M a vIkiNg!1!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41571-024-00902-1
Sigh.

Okay, can I die now? I don't wanna live in this kind of world.
- Should I kill myself, or should I have a cup of coffee? Do we just wait until we die? Or if we have to die eventually, then why wait?
  
  I understand this a fairly lot. But, I cannot wait to die. In fact, that is my only wish. This world causes a lot more hurt than I can handle. I am lonely and don't know how to fix that or if I am doomed to be that forever. I cannot stop feeling like a failure. All I can do is keep my emotions regulated, which is hard AF and takes all my effort.
- there are much more productive things that can be done than dying, such as [redacted] or [censored]
  
  Forget your troubles with a light-hearted video game!

You can also reset your immune system by contracting measles.
C'mon anti-vaxxers, if you really want to get rid of your current immune responses, there are ways of doing that. Just take a trip to West Texas.
(Please don't though.)
- Would that cure my Asthma?
  
  For the rest of your life!

I am torn between wanting to understand the logic behind this and not wanting to engage with anyone stupid enough to believe this.

He selling measles?

Now made with 100% bullshit.

Get ready for the scam economy to go into overdrive to take all that you have left.

Sure, but does it have electrolytes?
- It's got what ~~plants~~ idiots crave!

I’m getting World War Z vibes from this.

… shedders?
- it's the theory that vaccinated people "shed" their vaccinations to other people, which is complete bollocks.
  
  Vaccine shedding actually is a thing, but it's 1. only really linked to the oral polio vaccine (which itself is not common in most of the world) and 2. even then it's extremely rare.
  It also requires an attenuated virus vaccine, which means it has a zero percent chance of happening due to mRNA vaccines. In other words, it's just more lying and fearmongering from bullshit scam artist grifters.
  
  I wish it worked like that, at least then these headasses wouldn't be dragging everyone else down with them when they decide not to get a shot
  
  UNO Reverse Card?
  
  Sounds like something wearing a mask would help protect against...
  
  Why are so many conservative conspiracies schizo sounding?

Grifts all the way down.
- we went from demanding to ban congress members from owning stocks, to whatever the fuck the president family and all cabnit grifting their own scams and grifts of memecoins and fake suppliments shamlessly in plain view
  
  The memecoin rugpull by the President of the United States is considered by many historians to be the start of the downfall of the US.
  -AI David Attenborough

Hopefully, someone adds a touch or arsenic to these pills.
- All natural cherry seed extract
- The Alex Jones strategy

The company logo doesn't look like a W, it looks like an electrical diagram icon for a lightbulb, or one of those energy-saving curly bulbs.
- I thought it was an intrauterine device.

Placebo is a hell of a drug

"Mrna Detox"
My sides

Kash Patel’s twitter handle is Kash_Patel.
- https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-fbi-director-kash-patel-vaccine-detox-supplements-rcna182434
  
  Ugh, I was hopeful that this wasn’t true but unfortunately you are correct. Thanks for the link.
- This seems to be truth social
  
  Oh yes, you are correct. “ReTruths” should have given it away 🤦‍♂️

Imagine believing that taking ANOTHER medicine that is definitely totally unproven (but the commercial has a guy in a lab coat reading a script, so you know they absolutely "did their homework"- even if this didn't phase them before- but it's ok when they already believe it), just so you can make sure you're more vulnerable to a disease.
These people have noticed no ill effects, yet they'd rather pretend to get rid of that and take on a new risk.
And when the pill is later proven to not do anything (if it hasn't already, hell if I know just from seeing this), they will claim the vaccine was pointless when they still don't get COVID.
I hope and wish this pill is super poisonous and they have a hellish vomit sickness that wrecks them for days. Some of them will claim they're proof to suffer to get the vaccine out, but it will give others pause for sure.

Me: "Surely it can't mean that... Oh... Oh no. Oh fuck."

I looked and it's made of natto? And aspergillus? Isn't that what ferments sake? Maybe just go out to a Japanese restaurant. And the advert then says the only proven blah blah blah get the spike protein out is autophagy, which would imply that simply fasting would work, so even if you believe it you could just buy nothing and not eat for a few days, save money instead of spending it.