Basic courtesy
Basic courtesy
Basic courtesy
Always cart corral or reserved police parking.
Nobody posted the copypasta yet? I guess it's gotta be me, then.
I watched someone in a Costco parking lot shove his cart onto one of those berms at the end of a row, very obviously about to walk away from it. I was already frustrated, so I walked over and basically yanked it from him, saying something to the effect of "no don't worry I'll get it" in a very "you're part of the problem" tone.
It felt nice, I'm not gonna lie.
Edit: looks like the idiots who this meme is directed at are out in force lol
My local Costco recently removed the coin locks. Almost immediately, trolleys were fucking everywhere except in the bay.
The coin locks never bothered me because I have a pick for them on my keys. And yes, I return the damn trolley every time.
Well done.
Yes, smug self satisfaction at the expense of others feels nice. You do you bro.
Came to the comments just to look for this.
fucking ALWAYS.
How else do I get my £ back?
One time someone gave us a free cart at Aldi and my wife took the quarter instead of paying it forward. This is the worst thing she has ever done as far as I can tell.
How else do i get my tenth of a £ back?
I wish this was a thing outside Alidi in the US
This is mostly an American thing. They/we tend to be more entitled and very selfish. Often making excuses for bad behavior with lines like "I'm keeping people employed". No stupid, you're increasing our groceries because of your selfishness.
Now I live in Taiwan and have visited many countries and found out that this is not the norm. Most people care about the community their live in and oftentimes put back their carts.
Another example of American entitlement. Americans often throw trash on the ground in parking lots because the trash cans are too far away or they can't find one. Again the same excuses, "Keeping these people employed".
In Taiwan(and Japan), if you can't find a trash can, you take your trash home with you. You actually have a hard time finding a bin in public here. But our streets are typically very clean. Because we care about the community and the people here are less selfish.
Creating jobs for the sake of creating jobs is the stupidest anyway.
And you'll be heavily fined if you don't carry your trash home. Personally I prefer public trash cans, especially when I'm visiting a place hours from home. That way I can enjoy being there rather than carrying soggy trash with me for ten hours. But to each their own.
You absolutely won't have the savings passed onto you if the store fires one of the cart managers. That's the same logic as thinking self checkout makes store prices cheaper. Maybe if every store were locally owned it might work that way, but we're far from that sort of system.
So I used to put my cart back all the time but then I found out it creates jobs for people that cant get a job. Some one getting out of jail living in a half way home can use these jobs to get out of their situation. I no longer put it back.
In b4 someone unironically tries to defend not putting their cart back. There's always one.
There's always one.
Confirmed, it seems one did. Sigh.
My husband wouldn't put the cart away.
But he has cerebral palsy which made walking back to the car without the cart for stability difficult when he was shopping alone. He actively liked if someone left a cart in the handicapped hatch mark area because then it would be close so he could grab that going into the store and be balanced against it.
He did know it wasn't ideal though, and I'd take the carts back when I started shopping with him.
One? Like a solid 10% of the thread wtf
Should've said at least one
Sometimes I don't put the cart in the corral...
I take it back into the store because it's closer than the nearest corral. Or I take my bags out before I go into the parking lot and leave the cart in the lobby cart storage.
I don't have time for that. and someone else gets paid to do it!
/s
Idk. I put my cart back but I have heard an occasional decent argument why someone wouldn't.
One of the biggest ones is a single parent shopping alone with multiple small children. I get that ideally the cart corral probably isn't super far away, but leaving small kids alone for even a short period of time must be nerve wracking and not always safe depending on the area and climate.
Have had mutinies small children. Always put the cart away. Doors lock and children aren't that fragile.
bruh, I was trained as a child to put them back, we would start putting them back as soon as our parents lift the last bag out of it
probably a hot take but if your child can walk by themselves, putting the cart back is definitely a doable chore.
I'm creating jobs. When you push the cart you're pushing wealth from the cart pushers to the CEO of Walmart.
The CEO isn't paying that salary. It's a cost of business. A business you're paying for as a customer. All the customers pay a percentage of a nickel extra for shopping in a store that has a cart returner on the payroll.
I suppose ithe job pays badly and isn't very interesting. It's not something I'd waste my life doing. I wouldn't want my kids to do it either. Actually I wouldn't recommend it for anyone. Life has much more to offer than pushing carts all day.
So, congratu-fucking-lations, you've created a job that nobody ought to do and made everyone pay for keeping a sorry ass kid on poverty wage.
Ok, so you'd argue that by pushing the cart back, then you're the one doing the same meaningless job for free. Good point, right?
But here's the catch: Nobody ever needs to return a cart.
There are at least two ways to do this.
One: We can all accept that the cart doesn't have a home to be returned to and just leave them wherever and pick them up at the same place. This is obviously the chaotic neutral way.
Two: Pack your groceries in bags in the cart after (or while) paying. When you push the cart back towards the car, you walk by the cart corral, pick up your bags and walk to the car while leaving the cart in the corral. It's fucking magic.
Now there's more than one and they're running mental gymnastics to claim that pro-social behavior is simping for corpos. Special kind of entitled faux-leftism there.
The litmus test for civility.
You'd have to be some sort of lazy bones to not do something so simple.
What an awesome channel
The most basic test to separate people from beasts.
This is such a weak post. You really wanna be a good steward of carts? Get one from the corral on the way in instead of using one from the inside. Especially if it's not out of the way. Make the cart retriever's job even easier. Especially on super hot/cold days.
This is the way.
Also, by taking a cart from the corral and bringing it in with you, you’re actively modeling a virtuous behavior you hope people emulate, which does more to correct the problem than whining online about it.
But it does make me wonder about us sometimes. How did we get this way? How did “Fuck everybody else; got mine” become the default way Americans think? Am I the weird one for being raised to be thoughtful about these kinds of choices?
I don’t claim to be perfect. I’ve had bad days when I take advantage that permissiveness-inconsiderateness that I see around me all the time, but I always know that it’s wrong, and that I’m doing an inconsiderate thing, but that my frustration affords me the grace to be selfish about this one thing.
One of the Academy Award nominated short films this year is Instruments of a Beating Heart, about a class of Japanese first-grade students preparing to perform Ode to Joy for the new first year students that will take their places. It’s primarily about the struggle of one girl, but set against the backdrop of Japanese grade school life, student responsibility and expectation-setting for young humans experiencing their first non-familial social environments. It made me think “Well, at least these kids are going to be alright.”
The most generous explanation I can get is that people who don't put them in the corrals think they're not as bad as other people not leaving them in the corrals because "hey, at least I put it on the curb," or "hey, at least I didn't didn't leave it in the handicap area," or "hey, at least I didn't put it on a slope so it won't hit any cars," etc.
I also think there is just a ton of classism here. A lot of people feel better by belittling others. I think on some level the working class realizes they're being taken advantage of, but rather than taking it out in those above them they make others feel lower than themselves. "I am a hard worker. I put in 60 hours a week. My body wasted away. I am honorable for doing this to support my family. I am not lazy. I have skills. Minimum wage workers at the shopping center are lazy and have no skills. I am doing them a favor. I will not stoop to their level by performing such tasks." I think it makes working class people feel like royalty to belittle other working class people they view as less than themselves.
I don't know how it got like this. I can make guesses all day long but I really don't know.
joke's on you, i use a shopping bag
Well, put your bag back in the bag corral.
i bring the bag from home.
Narrator: They aren't.
There are some of you out there that really can't return the cart. Maybe it's your own mobility issues; maybe it's children, animals, or something else that you can't leave unattended in the vehicle; maybe you just ran out of spoons picking up your medical supplies; whatever reason--I got chu, fam.
When I turn around to return my cart, I always look for stragglers and bring them back. I'm forever alone, but healthy, so getting carts back to their "home" is the least I can do.
I used to work at a Costco. There were two long stretches of parking lot that had no cart corrals anywhere nearby. They were at the farthest points of the lot on either end. Despite all the employees begging them to add a corral in those spots the manager never did. But he would always complain about carts being abandoned way out there constantly.
I think a 30 seconds round trip to return a cart is more than fair. If you cannot reasonably locate a Coral (or the store does not have one within that walking distance timeframe) I think its fair to attempt to store the cart in such a manner that it doesn't block someone else trying to park.
All that being said the average shopper at our location wouldn't even attempt to find a corral. Often times they would just leave them in the empty space next to their car blocking a parking spot. Usually within 20 feet of an actual corral. Sometimes they would literally yell at one of the cart runners from a distance something like "wouldn't wanna put you out of a job!" Before they just left their cart slowly rolling across the lot unattended.
If you ever want to lose whatever small amount of hope you had left for the basic decency of the human race just work at a Costco for a little while.
People would leave their trash in the carts constantly. They would spill food and drinks all over the kids seats and just leave them there. They would almost never put them into the corrals properly. They would just shove them towards the corral from a distance which almost always cause the carts to jam up at angles and then the corral would over flow and eventually people would just leave them with their front wheels put over the curbs right next to the corrals that was now spilling over with 7 carts because nobody decided to properly put the cart away and instead just pushed it to the edge and called it quits.
I have worked all kinds of service jobs over the years. Costco by far had the most selfish and shitty customer base out of all of them. You can tell by the way many of them spoke to employees that they felt entitled to treating everyone like shit because they paid a membership. Hell some of them would even say exactly that whenever they felt even slightly inconvenienced or slighted. Just right out the gate with "I pay a membership fee blah blah blah blah". Every once in a blue moon they had s legitimate argument to be making, but 99% of the time they were just throwing s fit because they wanted to get their way and the managers would bend over backwards for the customers every single fuckin time.
Sorry this turned into a rant about the worst job I ever had.
Yeah many people are too selfish to put away a shopping cart these days.
I used to work for Target and Walmart. I feel like there's some overlap between the customers I've experienced at Target and the people that go to Costco. Sure, there were some weird people at Walmart, but at least they'd mind their own business. I swear Karen would try extra hard to go out of her way to interrupt your work for no reason at Target.
I found all sorts of things in carts at Walmart though. People would buy stuff to do their oil change in the parking lot, then literally change the oil and leave the old stuff in a cart sitting in the parking lot. Of course they didn't put it in the corral!
This wojack shit is so tired.
wowowow mister millionaires, who has so much money they need a "cart" to carry their things. I can only buy like 7 eggs from my salary, so I don't have this kind of 1% problem, I can carry them easily in my hands
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with his 7 EggCoin..
You would take the risk to carry such a fortune in your mere human hands ? Bold
Why can't I, hold all these eggs?
Lereddit hoomor
I don't take the cart out of the store anymore. I really can't afford that many groceries.
Based
I just put it in my backpack and walk past the register without paying
/jk I wish I had the confidence to do that
Same, haven't used a cart (besides Costco where I just can't lift any product they have long enough to check out) in years. Well I suppose I haven't been to Costco in years either but x >> y in this description.
This is why I always try and find a parking spot closest to a cart corral. People go crazy trying to get a spot closest to the front of the store, but ultimately your last stop before getting in your car should be at the cart corral. Yes, sometimes this means parking further away from the front door, but I have functioning legs and walking an extra 30 feet isn't a problem.
I‘m German. It’s in my DNA.
You mean our coins are in the cart
And there I thought the coin slots only existed so university students had to invest at least 50ct before putting them in their shared flats…
There are so many "unlocked" ones, they too end up where they belong and not randomly on the parking lot.
Aldi Stores in the USA have joined the chat
One time I didn’t return the cart at Aldi.
I still think about that a decade later.
Because that haunts me I always put the cart back no matter what
For those that don’t know you have to put a quarter in to use a cart and you get it back when you put it away which means there are never stray carts anywhere. People want their money back.
I look for someone coming in to give mine too, as do many others.
It’s worse than that. I shoved it up on the curb and left. Like you see at any other store.
I leave the carts that I find near the handicapped spots, as I know when my back goes out I really appreciate having a cart to lean on. I think it's common for a cart to be a sort of crutch.
My own carts I take back to the store unless I'm way at the end of the lot. If it's raining or something, always back to the store. I'm already wet, and I don't wanna make someone trudge out in the wet any longer than necessary.
At first I read "I leave my cart in the handicapped spots"
I bring it back to the store, like a proper child of the light.
EDIT - ProTip: Leave your reusable bags in your car. When you checkout tell them you don't need bags and to just put the groceries back in the cart. You can bag the stuff at your own pace once you are back at your vehicle. No self bagging stress, no "I forgot the bags stress, no extra work for the cashier, no need for a bagger, and you help the queue move faster.
Nah, the Stop n Shop I go to has portable scan guns, it's really the best. If I have to shop somewhere that doesn't have these, it will ruin my day. For the uninitiated, it's a portable bar code scanner with a little screen on it. You scan items as you take them off the shelf, put them in your bags, and when you are done shopping there is a "checkout" button on the gun/screen that generates a barcode. Scan that barcode at the self checkout, pay, and be on your way. It is peak grocery shopping efficiency.
Some stores (where I live) have the scanner, some use an app to scan. Works the same but they don't need to maintain the scanners with you using your phone. Finding a store that doesn't have the option to scan as you shop is quite rare nowadays (where I live).
That sounds amazing.
We keep telling you that you cancel all that goodwill out when you give the cashier The Look and announce there's no need for bags and that you're putting it all in your cart unprotected.
you cancel all that goodwill out when you give the cashier The Look
What, you DON'T tip cashiers by handing out late 80s hit singles? Weird..
I just use the self checkout
That time Cart Narcs got a gun pulled on them in Texas:
Assholes have guns and that's all they need to think they're right.
I hate those people. They are just as bad as the people who don't put the carts away. They look like they applied to be traffic cops, and got rejected, so they are doing this and pretend like they are writing tickets. What a bunch of wannabe pigs 🤣.
I was fine with annoying guy calling out the dude for not putting his cart away. Until he pulled out a magnet, (at least it wasn't a sticker). Don't fuck with people's property.
It's a wonderful test for if someone is an ass.
literally just religion
realize thousands of years of religon doesn't even make people selfless enough to put a shopping cart back
Our customers leave the shopping carts in the corral, but a surprising number of them bring back the big lumber carts. Been there a month and have seen exactly one cart floating around loose.
EDIT: Damnit. Found 3 today.
Lol I put shopping cart inside the White lines of the parking spot not in the line like a responsible person
An unironic way to fix half of America would be to let minimum wage workers hurt the public. Give them all baseball bats and make it legal to go for the knees of people who don't return carts, only one tap for people who don't put it back properly.
STOP! STOP PRETENDING THIS MATTERS.! The retail worker doesn't care! It makes no difference if the carts are in the corral or anywhere else in the lot. It effects NOTHING!! STOP!!
It affects other people if you leave your shit in the way or damage their car.
Plus it's just nice to not have parking lots full of visible indicators of people being too lazy or self-centered to do the smallest courtesy for others while nobody is looking.
I don't see it as an issue for the employees at all. I did cart collection at a first job decades ago. Screwing around outside is awesome for a working teenager. By all means, park far away for your own health, and return your cart to the furthest corral from the store to give the workers more fresh air.
I always park strategically - not closest to the front door, but right next to a cart corral if possible.
This is triply important when you’re lugging kids around.
Always! And I have those super sized insulated grocery bags so I can usually carry everything with both hands once I'm done checking out. So I just return my cart back in at the door and macho walk out of the store. 😤
always and forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tKAVPLgPrI
Not only do I put my cart away, I will take a few extra seconds to organize a couple carts that have just been pushed in all willy nilly (my grocery store has 2 sizes of cart). Like if I can take 30 seconds out of my life to make some else's day just a little bit easier, I definitely will.
Star Trek: Riker and O’Brien Cart-o-graphers.
Oh… I am going to destroy my lemmy credibility by chiming in on what I think is the absolutely most stupid conversation in the entire universe!
I know you all to be people of deep conscience and this is what I love about coming here. Lemmy is filled with people obsessed with meaningful issues… except for this one.
Maybe the leftists will join me? I don’t know, I think my perspective is simply boomer: who efffing cares.
On a beautiful Spring day, I will sometimes march my cart to the farthest end of the farthest parking lot knowing that I am giving the cart retriever a lovely stroll in the sun.
Cart retrievers are paid to do a job. I allow them to do it.
Oh, I have seen that obscenely smug little essay about how the easiest test of a person’s character is what they do with carts.
I have watched that Cart Narc guy and I always hope he gets caught and beaten by the person he has antagonized.
Oh… whatever. Judge me. Don’t judge me. It doesn’t matter.
The carts don’t matter. I probably should have read the comments here before commenting this but I was surprised to see it — because generally speaking, only topics that matter make it here and this one just doesn’t.
This reads like rage bait. I want to make a copy pasta of it even
cart retrievers are paid to do a job. I allow them to do it.
You intentionally make that job more difficult under some presumption that you're ACTUALLY doing them a favor?
Cool.
Try talking to one before you judge me.
Dude it's not making it more difficult. Most people in customer jobs absolutely love to get away from your bullshit for 5 minutes
I think I get where you're coming from: if the cart wrangler is paid by the hour, what do they care? I'll offer a counter point.
Have you worked in retail? You're assuming the person collecting your wayward cart doesn't have an a-hole middle manager breathing down their neck asking them why it's taking so long to bring in the carts. That lovely stroll in the sun could be a write up for someone who is just trying to get by.
I don't think you're off base with your intentions. I'm all for sticking it to faceless corporations, but I wouldn't want to do that at the potential expense of someone's livelihood.
I personally know two of these cart gatherers and they assure me that these extra steps under the blue sky are the best parts of their day.
I have watched that Cart Narc guy and I always hope he gets caught and beaten by the person he has antagonized.
lol. It's just a prank!
Brings me joy, tbh.
I'll never understand people who make doing free labor for a corporation some sort of top tier ethical standard.
Not lttering, following traffic rules, there are so many small ways we make our society better and yet people get so worked up over the one that is providing free labor.
It’s hard to believe that a reddit post about being able to tell if someone is a decent person based on whether or not they put a shopping cart away has stuck around as long as it has. It’s a pretty arbitrary metric.
My hot take is that there's an assumption that the employees don't want to go waaaaayyyyy out to get the carts.
When I worked at whole foods, I loved the outfield carts. I got to get away from the all seeing eye of management for a little bit, sometimes see a sunset, get to breathe some fresh air- and I'd take my time and just say "man, the carts are far out today" if asked.
I know not everyone is like me, but not everyone is unlike me either.
Sometimes I still take a cart to the furthest possible space to give the poor cart worker a damn break.
someone has a job to collect them and unless the parking lot is even close to full there's no risk for any vehicles getting damaged from a few dozen loose carts.
This person is a lazy bones.
Dang dude that Wojack character went straight to Woah, Jack
Why is this such a thing people are obsessed with? Like there's a billion things wrong with the world at every scale imaginable and your concern is the cart return guy has to walk around an extra 10 ft? There isn't even consensus amongst the people who have to do the cleanup that this is bad. Just move on.
Yeah and honestly why use a turn signal? They'll figure it out when you turn. And speed limits are obviously set too slow because they assume everyone will do ten over, right? And there's like a solid three seconds after the light turns red where there's basically zero chance anyone will be in the intersection! Social cohesion, order and civic pride are meaningless. Move on.
Or you could follow the basic signs that are written up everywhere and have the basic human decency of returning the thing that you took in the first place
ITT people simp for corporations.
I'm sure daddy supermarket chain loves it when you offer your free labor to him after he's finished ripping you off with his shrinkflation and grocery prices rising faster than inflation.
As a union household we don't steal work from unionized grocery workers. Not even something as small as cart wrangling. Anyone who does is a scab.
Yes, I also shit on the shop floor so there's more work for cleaners. Wouldn't want to steal work from them.
Genuinely lol'd, do what you gotta do my man.
Sounds like we've got a lazybones over here.
Why is this practice promoted?
It's someone's job and they make their money grabbing those carts, aren't we taking that away from them if all is perfectly arranged and they can just collect the carts in 2 minutes? This concept seems to only benefit the business in saving labor?
Coincidentally, I was checking out two days ago at a Costco and the manager came up to my cashier and said, "close up after this one, I'm going to send you home early okay?" The cashier said, "yeah, I guess..." But you could tell they clearly didn't want to leave early. If there were a bunch of carts in the parking lot at that point, feels like that person might get an extra 30 mins or so on the clock... Why aren't we supporting that? Manager would say, " let's close you down after this one, and then please do a lap in the parking lot to grab carts before you go"
Us carefully putting the carts away as customers is just free labor that the corporation benefits from... Period. How does this help the worker making an hourly wage?
As someone who has previously put carts away for a job. No, not only does leaving carts out make it more annoying to pick up it can also damage other people's vehicles, and take up parking spots. Carts roll around or are difficult to see and can get hit. This is the equivalent of saying to just knock stuff off the shelf as you walk through the store, an employee would have to pick that up and it would just cost the company money.
I don't think this comment actually responds to my points. I've worked many hourly retail and restaurant jobs myself. In many there was a regular struggle to hit minimum hours per week to qualify for benefits and managers were instructed to cut people during perceived slow times - none of this considering that I sat in an hour traffic to show up for my scheduled 8 hour shift that I need to meet to make my rent.
I was happy when gobacks piled up, shelves needed to be faced, tables needed to be bused and yes, to carts needed to be collected. When that was the case, I typically made my hours in those common, "we're going to need to cut someone" moments.
Again, this entire conversation seems biased to the business owner, the corporation's labor cost, and not the employee. Saying "all the carts are going to hit cars" is a false premise, in my opinion. And what I'm arguing for is the "good trouble" version of this. Place the carts safely away and maybe near the corral, but not in the corral.
This is like saying we should throw our litter on the floor because it keeps people employed to pick it up.
It's labour that doesn't need to exist in the first place because people can't be considerate of others.
You literally said the labor does have to exist
It's just who is doing the labor.
"labor that doesn't need to exist" feels like it's from a very privileged POV. what if those 30-40 mins here and there are the difference between me meeting the 29 hour a week threshold required to qualify for health or education benefits?
I'm commenting from a US biased perspective where you seem to be commenting from a European perspective based on your spelling. If that's the case, you already have your core needs met through your government, we do not in this flawed country.
As a person who did this for a job in my youth, may I first say, fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
As a worker, collecting stray carts that people left around the parking lot ate up the most time and was the least productive time I've ever spent while working. Also, at the store I worked at was fairly popular, on busy days, just collecting carts from the corrales took up enough time that I didn't really have time left over to make up for you being a lazy asshole.
As a consumer, I put away other people's stray carts, not only for the reasons above but because I don't want the cart demon to direct the carts into my car and cause it any damage. I also don't want my discarded cart to end up causing damage to anyone else's car. So fuck you for creating an easily avoidable problem that has the potential to damage my property. You suck.
Objectively, returning your cart is the correct, and proper path to take. However, nobody will arrest you, or fine you for not doing it. It is purely voluntary, but universally recognized as the right thing to do. Since you do not do it, what does that mean about you as a person? I think it means you're a dickhead.
Stop being selfish and lazy, then justifying it with "someone gets paid to do that". No, that's not the reason. The reason is that you're a terrible person, an asshole, and a dickhead.
So I reiterate: fuck you, and the horse you rode in on.
Again, not addressing the valid points I've introduced. Also, very odd phrasing throughout...
"Did this for a job in my youth?" We humans don't speak like that? Also, "in my youth" sounds like the shopping cars you were collecting were horse drawn.
"the least productive time I ever spent while working?" Who the fuck worries about productivity in a minimum wage job like this? "Yeah, I don't know Dad... I've just been really worried lately that my productivity is down this quarter. I'm cleaning up less vomit per hour at Weiner Hut than typical and I'm just worried the business owner isn't extracting as much profit from my labor as they could be..."
I hope you hit a shopping cart in a parking lot.
Sounds like we've got a lazybones over here.
Why can't we have new memes? Why do we have to stick with white supremacists imagery? This meme works without those tired as faces.
I usually put my cart away if the parking lot is full. Otherwise, that's what they pay the cart wranglers for, to wrangle stray carts. I even used to work at Kmart decades ago as a cashier and wrangled charts when the lines died down, so if the lots not full, and the employees are paid to recover the carts and as I know, it's a nice break to wander the parking lot instead of ringing people up, idk who is really upset about carts being left to their own devices... It does suck when the wind blows a cart into you or your car, but that's pretty rare... I do make sure my cart doesn't just roll off when I'm done, no need to send a cart missile careening across the parking lot, but otherwise I've never seen a good reason to not leave your shopping cart in an empty lot.
In germany and all of europe i have been to there are no cart wranglers because everyone just put their cart back in it's place. Before covid all carts had a little lock and chain that connects to the back of the next cart and you can unlock it with a coin. During covid many stores got rid of them and everybody is still putting their carts away. When I worked at a grocery store and there was no line I used my time to talk to my coworkers, stock the shelves or enjoy the quiet for a few minutes...
This is what a lazy bones looks like