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Can we stop making random calls like this on social media? We need actual organization and leadership to be directing this stuff.
Take charge then.
99% of people will never even know this is a thing. It's going to have more negative impact on low wage earners who show up than anything else.
This kind of organization doesn’t really work, you cant just set a day without a strong organized backing
My first impulse on reading this stuff is "Who are you guys? I've never even heard of you before?"
Like, I definitely get the Think Big impulse but... this is reprint of a rallying cry from a lightly distributed Canadian Newspaper. Is this even directed at Americans? Idfk.
I might at least take this more seriously if I'd heard about it through my local DSA chapter rather than as a random graphic on the back corner of a small social media forum.
You can always contact the organizers and constructively offer help, I’m sure they would welcome it.
I wish you best of luck to fight against your authoritarian and early-fascist regime.
Nevertheless it's also possible to let the US burn down and join the united states of Europe. We need more (left) minded people as well before it's too late like in the US.
Banning Science and specific topics in education...that's how it began here in Germany
Really appreciate that. Thanks.
Fuck democracy. Let’s take this bitch by force.
— y’all
Troll comment, but I'll bite. It's a fun opportunity for inappropriate analogies!
Winning with just shy of 50% on the total vote does not grant you a mandate from heaven to assfuck the other 51% of constituents. Consent of the governed and all that.
The losers accept a certain degree of non-consensual edging for the sake of getting along. Not how they'd like things, but as long as the pants stay on they can put up with it until the next election. If you start acting like you won the entire continent and the asses of the peasantry belong to you, you're probably gonna learn why the previous administrations didn't push the system that far.
Ya know eveytime I see these I wonder, "how did the Arabs do it?" They actually did something in Egypt. We can't even agree to take the same day off.
materialist differences
Significant organizational differences, as well. Egypt has a much more nationalized economy. Also, a lot of these movements are managed at the grassroots level through networks of mosques.
Americans - particularly the terminally online liberals - hate religious organizations. They're mostly corporate hacks or gig workers. And they think half the people in their social media channel are either cops or tankies or cops posing as tankies.
How do you organize on those grounds?
Good luck, he would probably win another election today. Cant save a democracy where the electorate is stupid.
How do you think fascism arose in Germany? Was it a complex process set forth by the treaty of Versailles, embarrassment after WWI, rapid technological advancement by Germany, instability from the great depression, instability in the Weimar republic, etc...
Or do you really think fascism just comes out of the aether when somehow millions of voters become "stupid" all of a sudden?
We should probably try though, because of the implications.
Might be better off signing up here. They're trying to get commitments for a general strike.
They document working on narrowing their demands more specifically once they hit certain goals.
I signed up and asked about 20 people to sign it. ✊🏻
I’ll Post It.
What are they protesting? Its completely vague about why.
While the full list of demands is still being added to, discussed, edited and submitted to a legal expert, some of our basic demands are as follows:
Protection and permanent guarantee of civil rights for all
Total government reform
Publicly funded health care
Adequate and accessible disability support and services
A permanent solution to Homelessness, hunger and the housing crisis
Respect and support for tribal Sovereignty and involvement with indigenous leadership for environmental action
Enhanced enforcement of constitutional rights
More power to american voters
I hope they get their full demands sorted out. A protest without immediate actionable legal demands is pretty doomed from the start. Especially one that encourages it's protestors to give something up. Unless we can have a moment where we can see a politician sign something into law the end of the protest will be vague and mired in "negotiations" until people have had enough and decide they need to start making money again without anything of consequence being accomplished.
I think it's pretty interesting actually.
The top critic I'd point to, it's that for something so huge like that, it's needed a food chain which connects rural to urban areas established. That's the first thing.
After that other things can be looked up, like electricity, water supply, etc etc
Then a rupture with capitalist system can be created, but it needs to be understood that "nonviolent direct action" isn't an option! At the first trial on labor strikes, capitalists will crush it with all their forces and repression skill
Well, that's a Saturday so I won't be doing anything anyway.
Why would they not be able to ignore this? They're already beating their own country's economy with a stick. Something I think a lot of foreigners don't understand is that the US Federal Government doesn't own the US Industry, they police it.
Whats going to happen? They're going to lose like 0.25% tax revenue for the year and run out of funding for all the programs they run? OHWAIT, they're already not funding those programs.
You have a better plan?
form an affinity group
Everyone bickering in this thread needs to just repost this image somewhere and shut up. That's how these things spread, via small communities. The only reason I saw it was this post, the only reason someone else might learn about it is my post. Unless you already have a better idea, and are organizing and trying to promote it, the least you can do is try and spread the word. The only way we win is together, so either bring a better solution to the table or get in line and help us fight.
Thank you.
A single day? And a weekend at that? Did Trump pick the date? Lol
That's not gonna do shit.
A weekend means that lots and lots of people who would get fired if they missed work to protest will get to protest.
Then help them organize better.
I just wanna jump in and say good job with "Yes and." It's inclusive to make sure we're all on the same side and doing everything we can to impact, even if we disagree on how. You're awesome.
I live abroad, and my resident country's currency is weak compared to the dollar right now... but screw it. Where can I throw money that's trustworthy?
Terrible date. Make it a weekday.
I get the whole Ides of March thing but please pick a weekday for a general strike. This is essentially forcing low-wage workers whose positions are more precarious to stop working while white-collar workers basically do nothing.
Low-wage workers work on weekdays too. And they will often get fired for missing work for any reason, not just protesting.
"You can't pick a weekday, the poors can't risk missing a day off from their second job!"
I mean, it's a Saturday. I'll already be doing nothing.
A 10 day general strike would get their attention but I doubt US voters have the stomach for it.
Source: am US voter
People quarantined for longer in the not so distant past. You have a month to get ready and don’t have to do shit when it’s time. Seems like a no brainer, even for those who don’t want to come out and protest.
I don’t disagree at all. I don’t live in the US but the ones I keep in touch with that do tell me their peers seem apathetic and unengaged. Which says a lot about how we got here.
Big reason they keep us so poor and vulnerable.
People would have to be willing to pool their resources for that.
Fuckin hell this looks like a facebook repost (1 like 1 prayer, share for jesus) from before I closed my account.
Yeah. If you believe in it make a better graphic for them if you can. Or anyone reading this. I don't have the skills personally but. They could use it lmao
Loved you in that movie
Is this bigger than just a single image? Any actual orgs or anything? Just the Newspunch guys and a few social media tags?
I doubt any of the conservatives will be participating.
It's not impossible. If you focused solely on economic concerns.
March 15th is a Saturday. Most things are already closed on Saturday.
White collar places are. This is asking mostly blue collar workers to make a sacrifice.
So? Gotta start somewhere. Blue collar are the guys that are gonna take the first hits, after all.
"Most things."
Really just 9-5 offices, schools, and places they support. And that's a benefit because the corporate folks will be able to join as well. People will be able to bring the kids. College students won't miss class.
Basically you're taking away the "oh I have to work" excuse from folks who want to get involved. And if folks like that start to join, this thing is going to get big.
Bring the kids to what? Be involved in what? I think the point is to stay home and not travel or spend money or work.
Listen to what? What are the demands?
Here are the demands from the site as of when I accessed it:
Personally, I believe these are not specific enough. If I may be so bold, I'll rewrite them:
People can fix my grammar/typos. Yes, I know more specific demands are more difficult to acquire alignment on from broader audiences, but I think these would be palatable up most Americans.
However, I am realizing that my points above are too verbose for quick consumption. Via web media, maybe they could be hidden as expandable sections beneath the original bullet points
My friend, maybe edit the original post to include this? A lot of us remember how much support and visibility Occupy Wallstreet got and how ineffective it was due to lack of direction.
It's only my intuition, but I think it may be easier to get people onboard by listing demands/goals, even if they're only tentative.
With these kinds of things, we're asking people to do a lot of work. The lower we can make the initial barriers to entry, the more likely people are to consume enough info that they become more willing to put in effort. This means prioritizing headline information well, making graphics appealing, etc
All this said, I haven't organized this kind of stuff. I defer to those with demonstrable success in these things
Keep fighting the good fight <3
Yeah, I mean look at what happened to Occupy Wall Street. You need clear concise demands, and shit that actually possible. And a general strike without major collaboration between unions and shite? Has there been any communication about this at all?
They have nothing to do with the image but Workers Strike Back is having a conference to organize into a body that can make demands and negotiate in a general strike situation. They're getting major Union leaders to attend (Amazon, UAW, etc) so the resulting org should actually have sway. But the conference is open to anyone and they're welcoming anyone to join them. Info here: https://www.workersstrikeback.org/events/feb-2025-organizing-conference
If this isn't going viral on mainstream social media, I fear there won't be much use to posting it here.
On Reddit.
It's more use posting it here than not posting it here. People here can see it and share on traditional social media.
However the question is if there are any labor organizations officially participating in this. If not, this seems a bit weird. And what are the actual demands? Change to what? These are the bigger problems than the location of the post.
I suppose that's fair, there are just a lot of people here who are here because they quit traditional social media.
Also known as a general strike. All the best for you!
I fear by mid March we'll already be screwed.
Hitting capitalists in the wallet is the only way to get them to change course.
Doesn’t matter what our ‘demands’ are or what they need to ‘listen to’ and we don’t need a perfectly written manifesto to protest these fucks destroying lives and our country’s support systems.
Don’t fall for the whiners saying it won’t do anything. If the wheels stop turning, even for a couple days, it will hurt the things they care about (money) and send a powerful message.
I will re-iterate for anyone that has the misfortune of reading through the dialogue below: Do not let anyone talk you into apathy. All they have to do is sit and type about how everything is a waste of time. Ask yourself why they would bother to do that? Why are they so afraid of people trying to make things better without having a perfect plan (when there's no such thing)? The answer is pretty obvious when you think about it for a minute.
Give 'em hell.
Thank you, you should be top comment had to scroll way to far to find someone with real grit.
Seriously, I'm so sick of this "let's all just give up" attitude that people post whenever anyone brings up resistance of any kind to the US 'government' shenanigans. Some of it is from propaganda mills and trolls, some of it is just people who want to do absolutely nothing and then later say how they were right all along. It's lazy, self-defeating, and actively harmful.
If they want to give up, then the first thing they should give up is posting their drivel. They can go sit on the couch and watch Fox while reciting their favorite slurs to themselves.
It won't do anything.
Whatever people don't buy on the 15th will simply be bought on the 16th.
Guaranteed the capitalists you're trying to contact won't even notice.
Yes the people who can’t even agree on what colour the sky is are gonna all agree to stop everything for a day
Oh, the conservatives won't take part.
We don't care what they do.
Read this fucking comment section. A bunch of losers who won't contribute a damn thing to making change happen.
Good grief.
A lot of losers in this thread think that literally anything mildly disruptive brings about change. That's not how it works. Change is from paperwork and ballots, not fire and empty shelves.
How about you shut this shit down right fucking now. I don’t think we all want to suffer for another six weeks. Hell I don’t even think you’ve got another six weeks.
Speaking as an outsider here but Jesus America, enough is enough already. The best time to act was three months ago, the second best time is now.
Organising takes time, if you dont do it together it wont work.
how about you stop posting about it with a PNG on a forum that gets like 20k visitors a month (high end) and go talk to your neighbors and coworkers about doing something more directly local?
You can post while waiting in line or while multitasking, as many of us do. You can do both. Also, the irony of your comment.
Because I live in Trump County so all my neighbors suck. MAGA hats everywhere.
I still fight back by printing out anything I find on here that is critical of Trump and posting it by the mailboxes in the middle of the night when everyone is asleep, but they get ripped down the same morning, every single day.
It's depressing, and I'm afraid that if I keep doing it the neighborhood will eventually track me down and lynch me, but every day I post a new piece of propaganda. I'm fighting back the safest possible way I can.
Do what you gotta do. Ignore the people who don't think you're protesting "the right way". They almost certainly aren't doing shit themselves.
I guarantee you there are local politicians in your area who absolutely suck shit, who have established enemies, who aren't as secure in their positions as they think they are
go learn who they are and make their lives hell.
Ya really think that those corporate dick sucking Maga dumbfucks actually do anything? We are like 10 people in total just Circlejerking about a revolution, and half arent even in America. A strike will do nothing
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!
Won’t matter :(