Sam Altman admits OpenAI has been on the wrong side of history with Open-Source

Fuck that guy.
- Sigh... If I need to. unzips pants
  
  There's a strong chance he'd enjoy it; so maybe it's best not to just to spite him. Lol

In other news, shit spewing liar spews more shit and lies to get more of your money.
He thinks they're on the wrong side of history my ass. He doesn't care. He never cared. He will never care. The open source you and I know is completely different than the "open source" this chucklefuck is probably selling you on. "We need to figure out a different open source strategy" should be the biggest indicator here. Take everything he and his circlejerk says with the biggest fucking mountain of salt you can dream of and double it.
- Yeah totally agree. He has proven to be one of the slimiest people on the scene. I mean, he is pretty much throwing his colleagues under the bus in this statement too lol
  
  Altman is a parasite and always has been
- I've never even seen him say something remotely intelligent. He also hires rabid zionists foaming at the mouth to bomb Gaza and in response he was like "I hire muslims so it cancels out man".

Unless they open source their models, they should be forced to rename to ClosedAI. It's literally false advertising otherwise.
- OpenVMS: 'I'm in trouble'
  
  OpenVMS, now there's a name I've not heard in a long time, a long time...

It is okay we are good. Already more than ~~3500~~ 9900 have forked DeepSeek.
Wild that it almost tripled in the 48 hours since I last checked.
https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3/forks
- Am i the only one who forks shit ill never touch?
  
  No you are not. I do it too.
  Personal projects aside, I work for a major industrial technology company in the US East Coast and we are looking into it just in case. It may not be what we want but we are definitely trying it out.

It grinds my gears that someone who can't be fucked with capitalization has that much money and power. I get that using the shift key occasionally is an inconvenience but we do it to help the readers. A conversation is give and take.
- Like all techbros it is an affectation to cultivate a certain sort of appearance. A type of mad faux intellectualism.
  You literally have to be a tryhard to do all lowecase on a phone, for example.
  
  i've disabled auto caps on my phone :o
  i generally type in all lower case because it appears more casual, at least to me. it's not exactly a rule i follow, so it's never consistent, and i don't mind capitalizing abbreviations and names and such anyways.
  
  It seemed to be a trend amongst younger people who would disable auto capitalisation.
  
  Who says he's on a phone?
  
  i am on a phone. i did not press any extra keys to make my phone not do caps - this is because i have changed my phone to this, because when you write about technical things, capitalisation is important - lower case everything is lower case everything. i’m not about to start hitting an extra key at random times when this is perfectly fine. i’ve never had an issue reading all lower case
  it’s not try-hard; it’s practical for people who work with tech
  
  i disabled auto-capitalisation a decade ago on my phone and that change has persisted ever since, but yeah guess i'm a tryhard. yeesh, being a grammar "nazi" was uncool even back then on reddit, imagine still being hard up about it in 2025.
- Man... I initially read that as
  can't be fucked with capitalism
  and I was thoroughly confused.
- This is the Reason why Germans are angry all the Time.

Lol. They didn't even publish weights since GPT2. And weights are not enough for open source.

Can someone ELI5? He's admitting it was never truly open? Or they were wrong for thinking open was good at all?
- OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.
  My personal opinion is that closed AI systems are only good if the owners are trustworthy. And in the long-run, no single owner can be trusted. There are risks with letting everyone copy and customize AI, however the worse danger is that the power gets too centralized with one single company.
  
  OpenAI was started to be as open as possible, and to prevent the kinds of capitalism-driven Closed-AI development that they have now themselves become.
  No, that was what OpenAI said its goals originally were. They were lying. They always intended for it to become a capitalist venture. Anyone who listens to Tech Won’t Save Us or This Machine Kills or Team Human have known all along. Or anyone like me who’s been in the industry for thirty years.
- He's saying they're wrong for not currently being open.
  
  No, he said they "need to figure out a different open source strategy". That is completely different.
- ~~Open~~AI

We have plenty of alternatives like Mistral, Gemini, qwen, deepseek...
But none of them is fully open source that you know data they've been trained with, right? Maybe only K2 ?
- I thought deepseek was open source. Guess not
  
  You can download the model, you do not have the source of the model.
  It is similar to releasing a compiled software app as shareware vs publishing your source code.
  
  Just the weights, training it is another story.

Link?
- Nevermind, found it: https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ieonxv/comment/maa0dcx/

I'm not sure what kind of admission that is other than they aren't on top anymore.
- Do you think deepseek is "on top"?
  
  The Open "model" seem to have knocked them down. Whether deepseek, llama, mistral, or others

Sam Altman? The guy who's currently on the wrong side of the dirt for SAing his sister?
- Wait, what?

Lol, lmao even

Sorry for confusion guys - here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1ieonxv/comment/maa0dcx/

Backing up my Saved page from reddit, I found that Dall-E post from four years ago. It is buck-wild how far all of this has come... in image generators. Text still fundamentally sucks because people keep trying to use an improv partner as an oracle. And its artistic uses are of low value because text was always dead easy to crank out.
And all I though to comment was "generate nude Tayne," about four hours before the American coup.

Well, if openai open sources all their models, what value is there left that is unique to openai? Training data? But that is only valuable if they invent a better way to make it into an "AI".
- Most companies that have open source products make their money in providing support for it to other companies, so theoretically OpenAI could do that (in fact top level AI developers are pretty rare so they could charge way more than other companies do for consulting) but that wouldn't be a hundreds-of-billions-of-dollars business plan because it's much too sensible.
- Hosting a model of that size requires ~800GB of VRAM. Even if they release their models, it wouldn't make them obsolete since most people and many companies couldn't host it either way.
  
  Anyone can now provide that service. Why pay OpenAI when you can pay a different service who is cheaper or provides a service more aligned with your needs or ethics or legal requirements?
- OpenAI started as a non-profit, so it could be 100% open and still be truthful to it's original intentions.