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  • The Tiananmen Square Massacre Never Happened

    • His proof that there wasn't a massacre is that the death toll reported by the mayor is only on the same order of magnitude as the Tulsa Race Massacre?

      For someone so adamant on criticizing propaganda the call is really coming from inside the house.

    • That's not the issue. The issue is that it's impossible to even have a nuanced and honest conversation about it because any hint about it gets automatically removed.

      • any hint about it gets automatically removed.

        Yes, if I post something false and harmful, like Haitian immigrants eat dogs, then my post should be removed. That's what you sound like to normal Chinese people and Chinese people who use social media don't want to babysit you. You refuse to learn when given the chance because you love the sense of power you get, like a flat earther or anti-vaccine nut who thinks they're hot shit because they think they know something that nobody else knows. It's sad and pathetic.

        Haitian immigrants eat dogs

        You see if I did that in the US, I would be called president, so I guess we know who's truly free.

      • What nuance do you want for an event that didn't occur? Yeah let's have a nuanced discussion about Saddam's WMD now we're at it.
        Also you can have a discussion about it in china and just with chinese people in general. Just not with a chatbot or as some inflammatory forum post. Which, frankly, is ideal, considering what doing fuck-all about disinformation has brought us in the west.

        • What do you mean it didn't occur? Something obviously happened, and it's only a question of whether my government’s version of the events is true.

          My entire RedNote feed Americans whether it's true that George Orwell books are banned in China (they're not), and Chinese asking whether it's true that American schools have shooter drills. Of course I'd like to ask them about the first thing most Americans think of when they hear the word "China." Unfortunately, I can't, and I'm stuck with only one version of the events (and I'm not going to rely on Western Hexbear users to get the other version).

          • (and I'm not going to rely on Western Hexbear users to get the other version).

            I'm glad history to you is finding the right person to confirm your already held beliefs. I think the word for that starts with an "r" and ends with "-acism."

            most Americans think of when they hear the word "China."

            Do not question this at all of course. There is no propaganda in America. We all are free-thinkers.

          • and it’s only a question of whether my government’s version of the events is true.

            That's easy, it never is.

          • I'm responding to you responding to a person giving you a link explaining that very position.

            • Sorry, but I want to hear it from a real Chinese communist, not a western YouTuber. Find me a BiliBili (or Douyin or Rednote) video on the topic.

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