TikTok Users Gleefully Embrace Even More Chinese App To Spite US TikTok Ban
TikTok Users Gleefully Embrace Even More Chinese App To Spite US TikTok Ban
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TikTok Users Gleefully Embrace Even More Chinese App To Spite US TikTok Ban
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I've been very cynical about the TikTok ban, and assumed people would work around it by sideloading the APK on Android phones, after it was removed from the app stores (which, as I detailed in this comment, could theoretically get random users who share the APK with friends prosecuted by the federal government and charged with a $5000 per user fine)
but this is exceeding my wildest expectations
"oh, but it's full of Chinese propaganda!!!" people will whine. cool. don't care. Twitter and Facebook are full of American propaganda, no one seems to be falling over themselves to ban those apps from app stores.
if propaganda is the concern, have schools teach critical thinking and how to recognize propaganda techniques. they won't do that, of course, because they want people to be susceptible to American propaganda.
haha class solidarity go brrr. the average American worker has more in common with the average Chinese worker than they do with an American oligarch. all of the American propaganda about how Chinese people are inherently untrustworthy and nefarious is gonna fall apart as people interact with actual Chinese people and realize "oh they're pretty much just like me, other than the language barrier".
and TikTok-style shortform video is very nearly the ideal medium for surmounting that language barrier. it was already commonplace to have captions in TikTok videos. start captioning videos on RedNote in both English and Chinese and bang, language differences don't matter nearly as much anymore.
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Twitter and Facebook are full of American propaganda
I see the Whataboutism Olympics are off to a good start this year.
Why is this always the only defense people have when they bend over backwards to write apologia for dictatorships like China and Russia?
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@spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org
the average American worker has more in common with the average Chinese worker than they do with an American oligarch
The average American worker has also more in common with the average Chinese worker than they do with an
American oligarchChinese oligarch and Chinese dictator. So your argument is not very valid.all of the American propaganda about how Chinese people are inherently untrustworthy and nefarious is gonna fall apart as people interact with actual Chinese people and realize "oh they're pretty much just like me, other than the language barrier".
No one says that Chinese people are worse or better than Americans or any other people on this planet. We're all the same. The problem here is the dictatorship in China that collects data of Americans and other people around the globe as others in this thread already have said. The Chinese people are fine, the Chinese government is not.
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Not that I care about TikTok one way or another, but one of the best arguments I've seen against banning it dealt with supposed protection of Americans' data. And I'm pretty sure that's the approach that lawmakers have taken with this; it's not that Chinese propaganda is bad, it's that China shouldn't have this much private info on Americans. I believe that's the primary angle they've taken to get around First Amendment concerns.
Anyway, the argument is, "Oh, but it's OK for US tech companies to harvest data? That's it's OK that we have weak privacy and data protection laws? As long as US companies are doing it, then it's not a problem?" Because, remember the laws says that the company becomes "unavailable" in the US if not sold to an American company. Presumably, if TikTok were sold to a US company, then the app could continue with no issue, tracking and collecting tons of data on Americans to be packaged and sold to the highest bidders.
I will admit, I was somewhat more pro-ban before hearing that argument. But now I'm more neutral. I don't use it, so I'm not/shouldn't be affected. But the government trying to hide behind data privacy and protection to ban TikTok does feel rather empty.
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You say that like any of the conservative controlled courts give a single flying fuck about precedent. They will embrace this ruling to foist religious doctrine on people who don't want it and reject it to prohibit any other material they find unsavory, in the same breath, even. The rule of law has been dead for a long time in the states.
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And you think Xiaohongshu is run by the Chinese workers? Lol no. This is idiots digging themselves deeper into an even more walled garden.
An actual FOSS platform like the one we're on would get banned over there very quickly.
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And you think Xiaohongshu is run by the Chinese workers?
oh yes daddy, harder. shove those words right into my mouth.
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Ah yes, because "it was just a joke" would be too obvious.
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