These 12 major companies caved to the far right and stopped DEI programs
With the news about Walmart, Ford Motor Co., and others, it's clear that this is a trend — and it's being driven by right-wing extremists.
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I wish where I work would abolish it too.
Why?
A minority got promoted instead of him and he can't admit that they deserved it.
I'm a manager who's tired of wasting my time interviewing candidates that were picked because they are a minority but actually not qualified for the job
It's a waste of time for me just as much as it is the candidate
Also the last unix admin I hired was black who didn't indicate on their application that they are a minority. He got the interview and then the job because he knew how unix worked. Not because he is black. Do you follow me?
As a manager I have the ability to screen resumes and not interview people who aren't qualified so as to not waste everyone's time.
You need to work on your hiring process.
Do you follow me?
I don't have a say.
Exactly. As a manager at a large company, HR feeds me resumes. That’s the process
Because choosing people based on skin colour is racist
That's true but that's not what DEI is for. It's aim is to simply be inclusive and not exclusive. DEI was never intended to be a quota or to hire someone less qualified simply because of race. That is actually racism.
Yet that’s how many orgs implemented it which is why so many people are against it. It’s not that DEI is bad, it’s that badly implemented DEI is worse than no DEI at all. But the pendulum ever swings and always with more momentum towards progress.
Utter trash. Please show me the organization that hired more women and minorities than white males.
The DEI pendelum allowed a few woman and even fewer minorities the chance at a job they could never get and now it is time to swing back to all white males again.
It is an extreme sexist and racist overreaction, end of story.
Could you explain how DEI works in practice. Not in theory or what it is supposed to do, but rather how companies implemented it and carried it out.
Sure, I do find it strange that you edgelords who seem to have a hard time with DEI training have never taken it
You take a class either independently or with a group. During this time you receive instruction explaining how all people are of value and how having a diverse range of decision makers produces better decisions.
There may be some scenarios that highlight how having, let's say a woman in the workplace could be helpful. Imagine a bunch of men sitting around bitchinng about their wives. The women in the group explains something about how women think and the guys realize that they are misinterpreting what their wives are doing.
That is about the gist of it. In a lot of ways it is the kind of lesson you would learn in kindergarten. A lot of people never got this lesson and are extremely racist and sexist. DEI attempts to deliver the message they never got.
That doesn’t answer what I asked at all, you only answered once more what DEI is in theory. I’m also not an edgelord though you are welcome to think that. I understand exactly how diversity is good and how it helps, being non white myself.
But I’ll repeat my question. How did organizations implement DEI hiring policies? How did they put what they supposedly learned in those classes in practice?
There is no smoking gun that you seem to be looking for. DEI is voluntary and does not actually affect hiring policies beyond the small chance of opening a hiring managers mind to the the possibility of hiring someone different than they are.
A common criticism from bigots is that there is some requirement to hire minorities/women. This is false.
This is why the racist and sexist push back is so ridiculous and why I said the characterization that the pendulum swings progressively forward is garbage.
DEI has ultimately lead to a small number of women getting hired and an even smaller number of minorities. It has in no way accomplished it's stated goal of creating an inclusive and understanding workplace.
This actually makes sense since it is a very short training and it is up to everyone in the workplace to actually make the positive changes.
Another criticism that has been leveled at DEI is it is just another way to make money. This argument is actually about capitalism itself though which is a system where everything is motivated by money so I don't really consider it valid.
The most valid criticism is around how effective DEI is at motivating change. It is true diverse organizations make better decisions and that means higher profits. As I said earlier the hard work comes from everyone at the company to improve things not a short presentation that is essentially treat people that are different than you as equals.
It is clear based upon this discussion that you probably hold an extreme belief about DEI. Hence the whole edgelord thing. Maybe you have not completely made up your mind yet.
You’re still talking about DEI as a concept, which I’m in favor of. But you understand that in corporate settings things need to be quantifiable and diversity as a concept is nebulous, so in order to make it quantifiable corporations turn it into checklists and quotas. I know DEI as a concept doesn’t say that you HAVE to hire minorities and women over more qualified candidates. But I do know that corporations in order to quantify how diverse they are, and to be able to say they are diverse under whatever criteria someone at the top is using to judge said diversity will put policies in place like: we aim for 40% of our workforce to be minorities and women. And now the hiring managers have a very specific number of how many people in their team should be minorities.
I do not have any extreme beliefs about DEI, I just know that many orgs implemented DEI in this way and when you do, the incentive becomes to meet the quota rather than hiring the best person for the job.
Also you can’t just imply that I’m a bigot simply because I’m criticizing a fundamentally flawed implementation of an idea. That’s just being intelectually dishonest. I can be against DEI programs (because they are badly implemented most of the time, at least in my experience: anecdotal I know) and still be in favor of diversity.
Woah there buddy, it is women who have benefited the most from DEI. Depending on your reaction to this you can tell if you are really more sexist than racist.
Doesn't your point simply mean DEI encourages more sexism than racism, but doesn't actually deny it encourages racism too?
If you think giving a minority or women a shot at a job they would have never had the opportunity to get is racist or sexist then you have your answer.
I honestly don't understand your point. Can you clarify?
You merely have to answer the question. Please state whether you feel it is sexist/racist or not.
I do think DEI programs are both racist and sexist. Now, what’s your point?
This is why DEI policies exist. To help people who are sexist and racist deal with their emotions and learn to respect all people. Thank you for sharing.
That's sexist
You basically are saying women are inferior to men if they need to be given special consideration in the hiring process
You are the one that said they are inferior. DEI teaches us that all humans have value and that diversity is good for decision making.
