I've actually done this tho

Greg is gonna shit on the floor when he'll learn that happens everywhere in Europe.

Many cities at one time had trolley service which did local point to point connection. Then they were forced out because there was more profit in growing car dependency.

The best is when the grocery stores are so close that you don't need a car or a train. Japan does it right. You can always walk to at least one grocery store.

Yeah right, let me just walk to the supermarket XD

is back in 25 minutes with bag of grocceries

:o

1: I've taken the metro to get groceries loads of times

2: Trams

If you have to take a train to the grocery, that's a failure in local planning and a business opportunity. That said, not every store has everything and I, too, have taken a train to the grocery store for fancier/rarer things.

In some parts of rural Japan, we also have a grocery truck carrying staples and things you requested the last time they came from the actual store. This is a huge lifeline to some rural elderly people, but I don't see why it couldn't be more broadly applied in other areas.

Trains also work to get other traffic off the road too. It solves congestion for everybody, not just you. That way when you do have to drive a car, there are fewer of them on the road.

It's actually called zoning reform. Bring back neighborhood grocery stores you can walk to. Before I experienced it, I never thought about how convenient it is to walk less than 5 minutes to a grocery store almost every day and do little grocery trips instead of bit multi-bag struggles.

Yes, it's called a tram. It's how I get to the shops, city centre, etc.

Yeah there's this thing called LIGHT RAIL, but even heavy rail, the NYC subway and BART are actually both heavy rail transit systems that one could absolutely casually take to the grocery store.

I get her point but trams!!!

I think she should see a city with trams and see how useful it is when implemented properly :)))

why would I take a train when the store is 3 minutes walking diatance

Woke agenda:

Legs, Gondolas, Buses, Trams

What if trains weren't slow? 🤔

"boss battle"

So fucking cringe.

WE ONCE HAD STREETCARS LOOK WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US

I do this with light rail. Takes 6 minutes with slow walking included. It's pleasant.

Especially in the winter. I live in Norway, so if I use a car I wait for the engine to warm up before driving. (It's better for the engine.) This and removal of ice and snow easily takes more than 6 minutes. I'm really glad I don't have a car.

You could take a train to the shop, though. If the infrastructure is built right.

This hillbilly has never been to NYC

You walk to the fucking grocery store. I know it sounds wild but we have legs so we can use it.

Only if you live in a city

When the train tracks are south of the major highway, and the grocery store is north of the major highway, that doesn't seem very safe in my area. What do?

Taking a train to the grocery store only seems absurd to people who have never experienced a really efficient rail system.

You get what you pay for.

These “take a train” crowd think that everyone in every city and every town has a subway system or even a functional bus system. It’s like the bicycle people who insist that I don’t need a car, I can just strap my kids to my back in winter and drop them off at school before cycling to work and stopping for errands and groceries on the way home! So easy! /s

If I didn’t NEED a car I wouldn’t drive one, and that applies to most people. But for some reason everyone on here is a 20something city kid with easy access to public transit

Instant Teleportation when?

The fact people want to get in a car in order to get groceries is beyond me. I'm in Australia, where car brain is also very prevalent, but with many urban places good for walking and PT.

I live close to the shops, and go there multiple times a week because it's literally right there. Driving and parking? Nah, I'm good.

Ideally we could just fucking walk to a small grocery store instead of having to drive to one. Also would increase jobs with more foot traffic.

Introducing:the tramway!

People really need to commute for groceries? Like, I have the store 1 block away. Americans don't know they can walk?

something a lot of people miss is, that some people have to shop for more than 3 or 4 people, when I grew up we were 5 plus a somewhat big dog, you can't really do weekly shopping without some kind of help under these circumstances

I use public transport to get everywhere I can, which is pretty easy where I live, but having 4 full shopping bags on a tram sounds like a horrible experience