What does everyone think about 'Luck Dice' or other failure-based mechanics in Tabletop RPGs?
What does everyone think about 'Luck Dice' or other failure-based mechanics in Tabletop RPGs?
I'm finding that I really like having failure mechanics in my games. For those unfamiliar with the concept, the idea is that players gain a token or dice when they fail a roll they can 'cash in' later for a bonus on rolls when they really need it. DM Scotty's Luck Dice rules and the rules of EZD6 are the best examples of these kind of rules I can think of.
In my opinion it adds a really interesting dimension to games. Rolling hot still feels great - but failure becomes more of a choice when you can spend resources. Failing a roll also stings less when you know you are getting a bonus you can use down the road. Instead of just trying to build the most mathematically optimal character, it becomes important to manage your resources as well.
Going from EZD6 to playing a low-level 5e game gave me a bit of whiplash. It definitely doesn't feel good to know you have about a 50% chance of hitting an enemy or essentially wasting your turn. Nothing is more disappointing than waiting 10 minutes for your turn in combat for it to end in 20 seconds after missing your single attack per turn.
Recently I've been playing a lot of EZd6, and I'm planning on adding DM Scotty's Luck Dice mechanics to a game of Vaults of Vaarn I'm planning as well. I think I'd like to add some kind of failure mechanic to all of my games going forward.
What do y'all think about failure mechanics? Is it something you also play with? Are you curious about it? Or do you have negative feelings or experiences with failure mechanics? Let me know!
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Standard combat in D&D is based off of an old system where the tension comes from a survival-horror "will I die before I escape with the loots?" feeling, which means combat is supposed to be dangerous, punishing, and generally a bad idea. Most people today don't enjoy that style of gameplay and are more interested in the narrative side of play. This makes combat a chore because it drags the players out of making interesting choices narratively and doesn't replace it with anything. Combat doesn't have that cloak of survival surrounding it, making it feel hollow and tacked-on.
The biggest thing for me to counteract that is giving people the ability to "fail forward." Not an original idea by any means, but I get the feeling that most people play D&D with a, "I roll to hit, miss, whoops that's my turn" sort of vibe. Admittedly there's no mechanic in a regular D&D game to facilitate this, but I like borrowing from Blades in the Dark with their clock system. Instead of failing to hit, the player hits, but it initiates some kind of countdown timer for something else happening in the fight or elsewhere. This gives me the ability to build tension in the fight while also giving me reasonable control over the length of the fights as well.
I like your implementation of Luck Dice; it seems to balance out some of the feel-bads while giving players options. I don't know if it addresses the core problem of misses in combat, but at least players won't feel like they're not going anywhere with a string of bad rolls. It also neatly fits into the heroic fantasy aspect of characters being better than most people and nothing can truly keep them down. It might be interesting to give your big bads Luck Dice too to make them feel more scary instead of doing lair/legendary actions. Let us know how it goes when you run your game!
You make a really good point! My table doesn't like 5e or pathfinder because, as you said, combat drags on a lot, there's a lot of ways to just avoid problems via spells, and there isn't a lot of tension. We went pure OSR systems and it went the other way, players were so focused on problem solving out of combat the planning phases would drag on - instead of having cool tense moments, they were agonizing over making the correct decision so their character wouldn't die after one or two bad rolls. EZd6 feels like an excellent middle ground - as long as they players have karma, they feel empowered to make mistakes and try things. Once it runs out, death is only one or two bad rolls away and they need to strategize.
Your idea of giving big bads Luck Dice rocks! I might even test having decisions the players make add or subtract from their luck dice pool - the longer they take to kill the big bad, the more luck die they have, for example, or the more magic items they take from the tomb the angrier and more powerful the guardian mummy becomes. Thanks for the idea!