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38 House Republicans give Trump the finger in shutdown vote

www.thedailybeast.com 38 House Republicans Give Trump the Finger in Shutdown Vote

Speaker Mike Johnson “is f---ed,” one Republican lawmaker told the Beast earlier on Thursday.

Summary

A potential U.S. government shutdown looms after 38 House Republicans joined Democrats in rejecting a Trump-backed spending bill, which included a debt ceiling increase.

Trump derailed Speaker Mike Johnson’s initial bipartisan plan, causing GOP infighting and weakening Johnson’s leadership.

MAGA allies Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy rallied for a shutdown, angering GOP moderates.

The failure could furlough federal workers and disrupt holiday travel.

Frustration grows within the GOP over chaotic negotiations, foreshadowing future challenges under Trump’s second-term agenda.

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Can someone explain this to me I’m not a U.S. citizen… trump isn’t even the acting president yet so this makes no sense to me..
- He has no official power, but a lot of current Republican congressmen are spineless little shits who will do anything he tells them to do. And apparently Elon wants the government shut down so bullied trump into pushing for it
  
  Thanks for simplifying it and explaining it to me. How do you feel about Elon musk being involved in politics? It’s a little scary I think
  
  It's horrific and the logical conclusion of allowing billionaires to buy lawmakers. Now they're just being completely direct about it instead of hiding behind other lobbyists.
  
  It's honestly just business as usual in American politics, our leaders have been corporate puppets for decades. The only scary part is that they think their victory is so absolute that they can drop the mask.
  
  Why does Musk want to shut down the gov? Does he gain something from it?
  
  The right wing essentially wants to destroy the government, because they think the free market solves everything.
  
  They don't think the free market solves everything. They think a weaker government is easier to control and that struggling government workers are easier to buy.
  
  He may want to shut down some agencies that are currently investigating/ prosecuting him until trump actually gets in, like the national labor relations board and the epa.
- The real people in power are those who tell the best stories.
  This tale is as old a civilization: a sword is powerful, but more powerful yet is a pen to instruct a thousand swords.
  Maybe we have forgotten that, in this analogy, the pen isn't literally a pen in an oval office, rather it is a tweet plugged straight into people's brains.
  Too many of you incorrectly assume that the real power of persuasion can only come from inside the Whitehouse, or some other institution, just because historically that is where it came from.

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