Crimean Tatars being herded onto trains for deportation by the Stalinist regime, where 22-40% would die after 5 years of forced labor and resettlement, 1944
The Russians committed so many genocides to natives all over Eurasia you cant even count them...yet no one today cares. There are whole groups of people basically erased because of them
Including Circassian genocide in mid 19th century. Some people in North Caucasus (also in Turkey, which received survivors) still try to keep this memory alive. If Kerch bridge survives, maybe one day it could help link Crimea and Circassia. But how far should we go back in history - what about Genghis Khan? The Mongol empire split Kievan Rus - Ivan Grozni would have argued he was fighting back. Now it's 21st century we need general agreement not to make any empires great again.
(reminder that they aren't alone in this. It doesn't excuse them but one has to look at one's own country)
Why does one have to qualify their opinion that genocide is bad?
Even with the war going on, the Soviets still had time and resources to conduct their own genocide.
Stalin was a big fan of genocide, especially in Ukraine. He also deported all the Jews to Siberia and created a "Jewish Oblast" in the middle of nowhere, the only place Soviet Jews were allowed to live unless they were extremely useful.
What a colossal bastard. His only benefit was he fought Hitler.
And he was perfectly happy to work with Hitler until Hitler betrayed him with Barbarossa. Colossal bastard doesn't begin to describe what an absolute fuckface he was.
Genocide advocacy is not kosher here. Refrain from that in the future.
You should be banned for a month.
Do you just get a raging boner everytime you see a post and think " I can jam me some politics right up in here"? You people are why the Internet sucks now, if you fell in a pond with a large rock necklace the world would be much happier.
God, I'd hate to see your comments on pictures of Holocaust trains without any guards in the frame.
Are you seriously denying genocide rn?
It's a tankie's favorite pastime
Anyone else feel a very distinct narrative being pushed with these last few posts?
I seem to have touched a nerve.
Yeah, the narrative of documented historical fact.
First the Anne Frank graphic novel, now this comment. Fascists really hate the "narrative" of historical truth.
I don't know, historical "truth" is all about focus, editing and which documents, details and context are hidden, lost, forgotten, censored, omitted, overlooked, not even recorded. In the end it is a narrative and can be shaped by bias like a newspaper: you need to read a few different ones to get an idea of what actually happened, unless you lived it and even then it's interesting to see what it looked like to others. What is important is that there is free access to historical documents and information so you can ask questions that were never answered before in textbooks and still get answers instead of an uncomfortable void in some parts.
A direct result of denialism in the community,
There's CCP and Kremlin propaganda all over Lemmy, of course people will tell the truth to counter it.
"Narrative" is a funny way of saying "woah I'm an idiot"
Hey you absolute idiot. This is history, not a narrative. Get the f out.
Are they doctored photos?
Do you take issue with the title?
What narrative would that be?
Ah yes, the narrative of, checks notes, "objective and verified facts that happened".
well aren’t you important!
The worst part about this is that it wasn't a one time sort of thing. The forced relocation was enforced until just before the Soviet Union fell. As a note, every other ethnic group that Stalin forced into relocation were allowed to begin returning home in 1956, but not the Crimean Tatars.
Stalin also tried to kill them off via famine in the 1920s.
This is bad, however, there's some hope. From wiki,