It's different you see
It's different you see
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As always...
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I live in germany, and the Israeli movings in Syria aren't "a top story" in several news. It's like: "we better not talk about this".
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ITT: People becoming the very same pocket shirt, horseshoe-pattern baldness Cold War boomers screaming red-faced about Russia that their parents and grandparents were. Sad!
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"I would have survived Generalplan Ost through demonstrating my superior hatred of the Russians!
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That reminded me of a Polish poem, though i forgot who wrote it, it goes something like that:
"Dziś nas straszycie komunistami, tak jak przed laty
Straszono naszych ojców nazwiskiem demokraty""You scare us with communists, like in the old time
our fathers were scared with the democrat name" -
The fact the Israel does war crimes does not excuse Russia doing war crimes. Both should be punished.
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if you think these are anywhere on the same scale or barbarity then you're extremely misinformed about the world. Israel killed more civilians in a month then Russia did in 3 years.
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One of these is the enemy of you nation that you've been taught your whole life to warmonger against.
The other is your ally that your taxes pay for, and you supply the weapons for to commit genocide.
You have more of a responsibility to confront one than the other. Do you not understand this, or do you just like playing dumb to both sides everything and wash away your own guilt? You realize playing into your nations' imperialist warmongering narratives AND defending Israeli genocide with "both sides" crap doubles your sins, it doesn't cancel them out.
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Nah, some of us just simply were to Russia, or come from communities that have dealt with their imperialism since a century or two...
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Israel also bombed the Syrian Navy, sinking 15 docked vessels. In self defense, of course, because those ships would be used against them. /s
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I love being gaslit I love being gaslit I love being gaslit I love being gaslit
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It's different outlets as well, you see. PBS doesn't have a material about the most recent attack, but pretty much every recent material they have is negative for Israel, two straight out discussing genocide. Which the Russians also attempt to commit against Ukrainians denying them their right for self--determination, my dear Russian friend.
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denying them their right for self--determination
You mean Obomba and then-VP Joe Bellend at the end of 2013 denied Ukraine the right to elect their own president
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If that's what genocide is, then it's good to know you support Ukraine's genocide in the Donbas Republics, or America's genocide of Ukraine. Don't forget, we did the coup, we did the union house massacre, we overturned the election, we installed the nazis who are kidnapping people off the streets at gunpoint. We destroyed Ukraine's self-determination to turn them into an unwilling suicide bomb against Russia.
My dear Russian friend
Your brain is fully cooked by nationalist ideology and the desire to live in a conspiracy thriller movie
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Your brain is fully cooked by nationalist ideology and the desire to live in a conspiracy thriller movie
Posters IRL name is Dimitry, doesn't sound like your typical native KKKanadian.
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Yeah now honestly the union house masacre of two thing, how does that compare to daily russian bombardment of civi targets?
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war is not the same as genocide, Russia has deliberately avoided hitting civilian targets and allowed evacuations. More civilians killed by Israel in a month than by Russia in a much broader war over 3 years. Israel are purposeful genocidal child killers. Russians are professionally prosecuting a conventional war.
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war is not the same as genocide, Russia has deliberately avoided hitting civilian targets and allowed evacuations.
According to whom, Russia Today?
More civilians killed by Israel in a month than by Russia in a much broader war over 3 years
Source for this stat please, cuz just from what I'm seeing that's such an absurd lie I'm amazed you actually try to push it.
Israel are purposeful genocidal child killers
True.
Russians are professionally prosecuting a conventional war.
https://t.me/NeoficialniyBeZsonoV/42094 - using open channel cheap radios and getting slaughtered or https://t.me/NeoficialniyBeZsonoV/42053 using taxis to evacuate the wounded? That's a Russian mil blogger in a span of few days. There's thousands of examples like that if you just pull your head out of your ass and actually read anything else than propaganda. Seriously, even just read the Russian millblogers directly. Russian soldiers are mistreated to such a degree that it is genuinely sad to hear it. They are as much hated for their crimes as they are despised for their competency with their utterly criminal leadership.
Browse though some of this; https://mastodon.social/@ChrisO_wiki - some sources I can easily accept as likely western propaganda, but most is sourced from Russian channels directly. Have fun reading about the professionalism of Russian army.Oh, you've seen a Russian generals take on the whole Syrian affair? https://video.echelon.pl/w/mmbpbaAADwnu7K1tA7iGnv
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genocide. Which the Russians also attempt to commit against Ukrainians denying them their right for self--determination, my dear Russian friend.
Thank god Zelensky is not trying to commit genocide on Ukrainians denying them their right for self-determination by forbidding people to leave the country and kidnapping them off the streets 1 by 1 in front of their mothers/wives and sending them to the meatgrinder, am I right, my dear Western friend holding the moral high ground?
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Im not western, and live with a place with over a million Ukrainian refugees, with whom I work. The fuck you talking about?
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Also the Russian invasion was anything but swift!
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It was quite swift initially, and if the west didn't torpedo the deal then the whole thing could've been over in 2 months.
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I haven't been following the news. Weren't they fucking around in Lebanon? Why are they in Syria?
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The Assad regime just got ousted, and Israel is taking advantage of the disorganisation in Syria to secure more Lebensraum.
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It looks like Turkey and Israel came up with a plot to overrun Syria with insurgents and then start carving it up.
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The instigator is different. Not trying to condone Israel, but the initial reason for invading is different.
Fuck both Russia and Israel.
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What do you believe Israel's reason is?
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Who cares. They are killing anything in their sight. Fuck them.
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It's also two different news agencies.
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Feel free to find a western news agency covering Israeli invasion of Syria the same way they cover Russia.
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Well yeah, it's different. The two situations are not remotely comparable.
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It's true, there are significant differences. One is a response to ethnic cleansing and NATO expansion,while the other is a genocidal regime invading its neighbour.
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What ethnic cleansing? I'm asking this in good faith, I genuinely don't know who Ukrainians were trying to eliminate. I've vaguely heard that many Cossaks in Eastern Ukraine were pro-Russia because they'd let them have more autonomy, is that what this is about?
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didn't russia promise ukraines independence?
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One is a response to ethnic cleansing and NATO expansion,while the other is a genocidal regime invading its neighbour.
mh .. that almost sounds like two different things ...
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