Police question man with gun, suppressor and fake IDs in Pennsylvania in connection with health care CEO killing, sources say

A fucking McDonald's employee? How cucked can you be to work at McDonald's and call the police on this hero?
- Real class traitor shit
- It honestly makes a lot of sense if you think about it. Someone working at McDonalds could absolutely have their lives changed in a serious material way by the reward money being offered by the authorities here. It's awful but America has done an absolutely incredible job at separating out workers into individual units that are meant to fight each other for scraps rather than allowing them to organize into coherent worker groups with class solidarity. This is exactly the kind of thing America was built to do and has decades of propaganda encouraging this sort of behavior so it shouldn't be surprising.
  
  Everybody snitches. You have to treat it like everyone else that you ever did anything with is snitching.
  Never forget folks, it's not personal, you gotta just live your life like they're gonna snitch.
- It's so embarrassing, if I knew that person I'd bully them.
- But have you noticed a Mc D is usually a detached building?
  And that there would be no collatoral dammage in case of a tragic accident such as a fire.
  
  the deep fryer hungers for ice. would you let it suffer in hungry silence?
  
  huh, what an interesting fact
- "an elderly patron"
  
  after a McDonald’s employee thought he resembled the man in New York Police Department photos and called police, officials said.
  Where do you see an elder patron? I don't see it in this article.
- This is why we'll never have anything good.
  Because of snitch ass motherfuckers like this Mickey D's cuck.
- there's no way that this maccas physically makes it through the next 48 hours

The man also had a two-page document railing against the health care industry and suggesting violence is the answer, a police official who has seen the document told CNN.
Chat, we might get a manifesto
- Why would you even flee if you were going to carry a manifesto that is basically a confession around for a week. Lends credence to the framed by cops theory tbh.
  
  why would he be carrying the same goddamn fake ID he checked into the hostel with
  that should've been burned as soon as he was in a private place
- Yeah this section stuck out to me.
  What do you mean exactly, police, that he "had a document"?
  Like he had it written out in paper form and was carrying it around with him? Like he wrote it online and published it? Like it is saved on his desktop? If it's the latter, how did you find it?
  
  Either the pigs are lying or the suspect isn’t nearly as bright as we all thought. Because wtf
  
  Yeah, sounds like bullshit.

The weapon is a ghost gun – an untraceable, homemade weapon – another law enforcement source told CNN.
truthers vindicated????
- Damn, you beat me to exactly the comment I was gonna make by 10 minutes
- Ghost of Kyiv
  
  Ghost [gun] of Midtown

The 26-year-old was picked up at a McDonald’s in Altoona after an employee thought he looked like the man in New York Police Department photos and called police
Hope the snitch gets what’s coming to them
- 🪡🧵
- Of fucking course it's in Altoona

fwiw people on libsky are saying it might not be him since it doesn’t make sense for him to still have the weapon 5 days after the shooting, which I kind of agree with (though he may have been holding onto it to get rid of it in a more secure way)
- First of all I don't buy this is our guy at all. But second, what exactly is to stop someone from going out into any random roadside brush in the boonies and burying their CEO-blaster there?
  
  Idk the dude has a pretty unique face, strong features that seem to match imo.
- He was in NYC. Toss it in the Hudson like everyone else.
- It could also be that our streetwise Hercules is just a dumbass
- He could also just be an idiot. And if this is him, he is

First Starbucks and now McDonald's. If only he'd been BDSing...

Sounds incredibly convenient tbh
- I can believe they'd pick a guy who looks close enough and plant a suppressor and a fake ID, but you'd figure the plan would involve killing him in the process
  
  I'm not putting anything past the ruling class, they are increasingly desperate
  
  the really interesting thing to me is the handwritten note. does the handwriting match? seems relatively conclusive to test, even if he dies first. also, the fact that it wasn't the NYPD that arrested him
- There is like no chance this is the dude who did it. They just have to pin it on someone to try to prevent cool shit like this from continuing to happen.

He's a fucking musk-worshipping transphobe?
- Never meet your heroes
- Genuinely curious where you found that - i've popped open half a dozen articles about that guy and none have mentioned either detail.
  
  His twitter is full of it
- This is one of the main reasons I didn’t want to see him caught. He was more valuable as a symbol.
- called it?

L. probably wanted to Adjust somebody else , otherwise why not ditch the IDs, gun and suppressor as soon as was convenient. dude got greedy, shoulda taken a flight abroad and chilled at least for a while
UNLESS this is made up by the pigs which is very possible
Death to America

Man being questioned is identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione published at 11:43
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/crk0ep61p2mt?post=asset%3Acea5213a-550e-420e-990d-46479ea87642#post
The man being questioned by police in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has been identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione, police city commissioner of New York City, Jessica Tisch says.
Mangione was reportedly found with an ID that had his name on it, along with a fake ID. He was detained at a McDonald's on Monday morning in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
He has not been charged in connection with the shooting.
This seems to be his twitter: https://xcancel.com/pepmangione
The smile definitely looks the same. I've been googling the guy and he was valedictorian of his high school class. No visible ideological leaning from the twitter account which has a history going back to 2022.
- I see that he has a spinal fusion located on his lumbar back on his twitter account banner. Yeah, going through that in your teens or 20s will make you hate the healthcare insurance industry.... Don't ask how I know that. Or do actually, I'm prepared to talk about such.
  
  This is the kind of environmental storytelling indie devs put in a game specifically made for a Jacob Geller essay.
  
  same. but the the institution that did it to me (or stopped me from getting emergency care after i fractured it) made me into the person i am today and not a fascist
  
  I, and I cannot stress this enough, can fix him.
  
  All that time fighting with Breloom influenced him to do a Technician-boosted Mach Punch in real life.
- His goodreads where he's flagged Atlas Shrugged as "want to read" and shares his opinions about
  
  a reminder to cover your tracks online folks, especially if they're cringe
  
  Looks like his account was changed to private
- no ideological leaning but someone who is skimming dark enlightenment transhuman/AI adjacent bullshit.
  fuck he's fash isn't he fuck fuck
  (maybe not. sorry im going through some things reading his twitter. dude is a mess. god americans wtf. it's like some combo of dark enlightenment and ~~anti-capitalist~~ with a side of eco lib)
  
  Yeah, it looks like he is atleast not our kinda guy. Theres antifeminist shit and wanking about Rome in there. Fuck this shit, fuck this country.
  
  He's not explicitly tied to any ideology, just your average confused mid 20s American dude. That means lots of rightwing bullshit, it appears to just permiate the air over there.
  
  He’s anti trans too, based on an April 5 retweet
  
  I picked up on the Futurology Guy stuff, the AI fetishism, and the light references to Malthusian overpopulation shit. He strikes me as a vaguely right-wing libertarian, but I didn't see enough from that 5 minute glance at his twitter to really classify him or say how far into that pipeline he is.
  
  fuck he's fash isn't he fuck fuck
  I don't think so but seems like he's at least halfway there with all the chud bazinga elon shit he's reposting.
- He retweeted some China fearmongering blog post, so probably not left leaning. Seems like typical computer science stem type
  Also accusing Richard Dawkins of being woke or something:
  
  Further down he's retweeting anti-trans SWERF content
- it doesn't mean much that the smile looks the same, the snitch called specifically because he thought he looked the same. if anything it makes it less likely, because it was really unlikely for those smile pictures to be of the right guy, he wouldn't have been walking around wearing the same outfit but slightly different the next day
  also he's posting about investment opportunities...?
  i really get the feeling this was going to be a copycat with a different ideology
  
  god i hope so. i mean there's not one post about healthcare and nothing indicating this guy is anything but a full on capitalist bootlicker "free thinker" christian anti-DEI incel
  kind of guy to do a mass shooting or "targeted" killings of women not this
  
  i really get the feeling this was going to be a copycat with a different ideology
  I dunno, according to this article (https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-altoona) the fake ID they found on him was the same one used in the New York hotel they saw the shooter in.
  It was extremely dumb to not get rid of the incriminating evidence.
  
  the copycat idea fits a lot of inconsistencies here, but the resemblance is pretty strong. I don't know what to think rn
- At least he has good taste in pokemon, breloom is pretty cool. Dudes got those worms in him for sure lmao
  
  Fighting grass is a novel combo. Gen 3 really cooked honestly.
- Seems to be him, based on brows, eyes, nose, and smile
- Seems like he is at least familiar with Pennsylvania. Studied at UPenn in Philly.
- First vaporeon, then typhlosion, then breloom. Which pokemon is next?

All this about how terrible Mangione's politics are is exactly WHY they wanted to catch him. It's not about punishing that guy. It's about giving a face to a upswell of class solidarity with the hope of alienating people.
The more we focus on the perp, the less we focus on the deed and the good it did, the more the working class falls into bickering about what kind of person he was.
I don't care about the guy. I wanna know about the snitch. They know which McDonald's it was. Who snitched?
- Exactly, the ruling class wants to keep the rest of us divided
- Yea I'm not too worried about how the guy labels himself he wrote a review of the unabombers manifesto and talked about how peaceful protest will always be ignored and violence against billionaires was self defense for what they were doing to us and the planet.
- We see this kind of violence as political, we understand healthcare to be political. He likely doesn't/didn't see his bad political takes on twitter as related to killing that guy in any way.

Two things: critical support, regardless of his viewpoints he did a cool thing. Second, maybe it's good that it's another chud adjacent guy so we don't get targeted.
- Well, if extremist chuds keep doing stuff like this, I'm not going to get too bent out of shape. My default is to assume things will come back to bite us in the ass, but I'm a slut for schadenfreude.
  
  Because right wing extremism usually benefits the owner class.
  When push comes to becoming a human cheese grater, capital will protect itself.
- All the leftist podcasters will be sleeping well tonight.

Rip to a real one.
I wonder if any American normies will stop to consider why this particular killing became a manhunt across half the nation within days, when similar crimes happen all across America every day without such efforts.
See also: the guy they name drop in the article who was on the run from terror charges for seven years for releasing animals from a fur farm.
- Normies think that the police are actually like csi and law and order. So doubt it.

Put me in the don't jump to conclusions camp. Going through details none of this makes really clicks.

I mean, let's be honest, it's Western Pennsylvania
I'm honestly surprised there aren't more people being arrested with fake ID's and suppressors on hand
- I know greyhound is a fuck but I thought he'd be a little farther away after 5 days than Pennsylvania
  
  That too
  Hard to believe he prepared for everything and only made it a couple hundred miles away
  
  That’s if it’s him.

lol just gettin a McChicken while the most wanted man in the US
Dude why??

Not particularly convinced they've got the right guy. They've got a guy and whether it's THE guy or not, this guy was dumb as hell. Doesn't feel consistent with someone who's evaded arrest for almost a week with next to no leads. Could be a copycat, could be a dude intentionally being a decoy, could be a frame job or maayyyybe it really is the dude and he's being a lot luckier and less clever than we thought. I don't know, but this seems inconsistently sloppy.
- I agree, everything about the shooting seems to calculated for the guy to be dumb enough to just be out and about while his face is all over the place.
- Dude at a McDonald's in PA with a fake ID and a suppressed 9mm... Sounds like they just grabbed an average American off the street! 🤷‍♀️
- he's being a lot luckier and less clever than we thought
  Cops have been the right amount of stupid to evade them and it was a slow newsweek.
- I wonder if he still had the gun because he was planning to go on a CEO killing spree
  
  I'm not sure how long between kills you need to go from spree to serial killer but dude would be really pushing that distinction and if you're serial killing you really gotta ditch a weapon and get a new one each time. It would be dumb either way

Police also traced his movements before the shooting via a Greyhound bus originating in Atlanta and bound for New York City.
This kind of backwards surveillance is chilling
- It shows that pigs could catch and solve any crime they wanted, but that detail will be conveniently ignored 🤬🤬🤬🤬
  
  The NYPD deployed specialist scuba divers to search the bottom of Central Park's lake at the weekend, while dogs combed the parks wooded areas in search for the gun used in the shooting. Police have not yet said they found anything
  scuba divers with floodlights lol
  EDIT: and probably metal detectors
- Isn't that just surveillance?
  
  "He arrived on a bus from Atlanta."
  Yeah, sounds like pretty standard investigating.
  
  Not all surveillance has the ability to follow an individual back in time and space to any arbitrary position.
  Maybe I'm not using the right term but I'm describing this kind of whole-picture surveillance that was perfected with surveillance drones in Iraq and Afghanistan and is (Foucault's Boomerang style) now being established in the major metropoles.

New type of guy just dropped: Guy who loves AI and is willing to kill anyone who uses it in a detrimental way because they're giving it a bad name.

he's a yarvinist fascist accelerationist
- absolutely fuck this guy brainworms on full display
  
  it's crazy to see even people here writing him off as a median guy. the median amerikkkan is not a CS graduate from Penn who was reposting elon reply guys and debating incel shit about japanese culture. a syncretic, ideologically incoherent moron to be sure, but a solidly fascist one.

Try to keep post titles matching with article titles if you're not including a screenshot of the headline
- 👍

lol was he actually planning to kill other people if this is real?
If he's gonna keep the gun and suppressor around he might as well have just made the gun work properly to begin with, everyones assumption about it not cycling was that he obviously was just planning to toss the gun and suppressor afterwards.

His name is Luigi!? If this is the guy then we all need to do some self Crit on our collective anti Italian biases
- Nice try, La Bella Lotta
  
  Mamma Mia!
- You will not find a year where I'm not blasting this banger on August 23 (and many other days).
  
  I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
  yewtu.be
  inv.nadeko.net
  yt.artemislena.eu
  piped.video

I wonder if he was prepping for another go in western PA. Getting a blended iced coffee is just part of the ritual at this point.
- weird connection to the monopoly money, plus a lot of actual healthcare. corporate HQ for Sheetz and Boyer
  Historically, the sole economic force driving the growth of Altoona into a City was the Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR). While the various local railroad shops still employ over a thousand people, they are no longer the driving economic engine of the area like they once were.
  The top field of employment in Altoona and the metro area is the healthcare industry. Facilities include: UPMC Altoona with its many local facilities that employ thousands, Healthsouth Rehabilitation Hospital and its several local facilities, James E. Van Zandt VA Medical Center, dozens of doctors offices, and over 20 nursing homes and assisted living facilities.
  Altoona serves as the corporate home to Sheetz, a rapidly growing convenience store and gasoline chain with over 600 locations in the Northeast.
  Altoona also serves as the headquarters to the candy company Boyer. Famous for their Mallo Cup, the company was founded in 1936, 42 years after the founding of The Hershey Company in Hershey.
  
  That is exactly what I was thinking. Lots of insurance type stuff in that area (esp healthcare).
  They’re gonna call this guy the Monopoly Maniac or some shit if his plan was to commit a series of killings related to Monopoly board locations.

As Harlan Ellison once said: "I'm a crank, what do you want from me?".
- Perfection. Duh

"Working off of a tip, police stopped a person traveling by bus and recovered a suppressor – a device that muffles the sound of a firearm – and a number of false IDs, one official added."
Erghhhhhhhh so dumb luck ffs
- a suppressor
  Okay, but the B&T VP9 which they thought was the pistol used has an integrated silencer and doesn't need a suppressor, right? There is still hope, right?
  
  I have no idea, what an anti climactic end, ratted out by a boot licking McDonald's worker. Jesus christ.
  Edit: oh he's some alt right return guy and was apparently bragging about it in the maccies. Lmao what a dickhead. Oh well folk hero status revoked.
  
  they never had very much evidence for that, it's a really rare gun
  
  There is still hope, right?
  Reasonable doubt, maybe

Why the fuck would you still have the gun with a suppressor a week after the doing it? Could you not run off to South America for a few weeks? You escaped on a bus and they can't identify you.
Authorities also recovered a “fraudulent New Jersey ID matching the ID our suspect used to check into his New York City hostel before the shooting,”
DOG GET RID OF THE FAKE ID WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
There's no way.
In addition to the weapon and fake ID found on the suspect, Tisch said, police recovered “clothing, including a mask, consistent with those worn by our wanted individual.”
HE CHANGED CLOTHES. HE WOULDN'T BE UNAWARE
What did he forget to fucking shower in the past week so he had gunpowder residue on him still?
- it's too fucking pat, the mind rebels

Man fuck, can't have nothing in this absolute hellhole country.

Copycat caught before he could make his move?
- it fits a lot of the inconsistencies here. if it is I think the police will go hard to pin it on him anyway
  he'd better be able to prove he wasn't in Manhattan
  
  "I'm just a patsy!" - ~~Lee Harvey Oswald~~ Luigi Mangione

his reading list didn't contain delay deny defend, did it??

Pretty sure that’s a wrap
Also pretty sure this is where we return to where we were before this happened

Eric Adams press conference streaming now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIa0aPOkhnE
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Edit 1
Manifesto was 3 pages and handwritten.
- That manifesto needs to be released and made into a site tagline
  
  I'll leave this here...
- I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
  yewtu.be
  inv.nadeko.net
  yt.artemislena.eu
  piped.video

Death to fucking America
The bourgeois press made this a national story and did all the consent-manufacturing possible to villainize this hero
- I don't think they needed to manufacture much with his twitter, he did a good thing but probably for the wrong reasons lol
  
  The exact definition of critical support

I'm a truther. He's 100% set up to be the patsy just like Lee Harry Oswald, and just like Oswald, he's going to be rubbed out.

How sure are we they have the right guy? The vibes seem off to me.
- Didn't see the deny defend depose book on goodreads so i'll reserve judgement.
- the vibes are off. it feels too neat. a cornucopia of shit that incriminates him is still on his person five days later? for a guy who meticulously planned and smoothly executed that killing but more importantly the escape?
  EDIT: particularly the fake ID from the hostel. it's burned, you can't use it again! what the fuck are you doing?!
  
  Yeah, it doesn't seem to match up between the two sets of events.

Yep, time for the shittiest timeline.
I think again we have to think about how to manage and work around
. After all, looks like this person is going to have dogshit ideology. So rather than hope for more single combat we must organize so that an ideologically coherent (not pure, just left-wing) coalition can agitate and fight for real change.
I think this also gets to "the death of one CEO is inconsequential, the overturning of the system is our goal, therefore we do not support adventurism because it does not achieve goals" thinking. We're now going to have to articulate how a left program is superior to the weird right wing reactionary brain worms this guy might well have.

I don't know if it's copium but I'm not inclined to believe anything the pigs claim, especially after their frenzied scattershot "we definitely got em" claims over the past few days.

Let this be a reminder that yes, cops can solve whatever crime they want and it gets super easy to do once capital enters the ring
- Cops didn’t solve it, a guy in mcdonald’s did
  
  Can’t stop thinking about the fact that no Palestinians ratted out Yahya Sinwar’s position in Gaza for an entire year while a member of the goddamn US working class ratted out our vigilante hero for a punk ass $50,000 in less than a week. 🤦🏼‍♀️
- Pigs will also routinely pin a crime on some patsy. Usually, it's a Black dude who goes to jail for a crime he didn't commit.
- cops bungle shit all the fucking time lol

Luigi Mangione

seems like this guy may have been more of a ‘techbro anti-
’ type personality rather than a modern day

latex makeup+fake mustaches + dump a gun + go to log cabin

Reddit account is suspended

Really doubt this is the same guy. None of this makes sense to me but who knows

Damn... RIP to a real one.

Breloom fans in shambles.

It's Luig-over

You guys are not going to be happy with him

This seems as faked as epsteins suicide. The NY bourgeoisie were putting a ton of pressure on the NYPD to find someone who killed one of their own class, and the cops picked the first patsy who turned up, and are claiming the evidence fits.

Gladio?

I dunno, if he really was the guy, wouldn't the police have shot him dead?
Maybe the Pennsylvania police wouldn't have as much motivation to off him as the NYPD, but still... if he's really the guy, the government now risks a good-looking dude most people like to be interviewed on why he did it. Not to mention a drawn out court case. They're risking nationwide radicalization, even if this guy really is a cringe Elon fan. Yes, even if this guy isn't a leftist and hasn't changed in the last few months, he could still be a "healthcare pls" kinda fella.
Or... and I'm absolutely getting into conspiracy theories here... some libertarian saw this shit on the news, somehow had access to private investigation info like the exact fake ID card used (Maybe he knows some cops? Maybe anonymous is leaking info?), and already owned a similar enough gun. He thought, "Yeah, this sounds like a money making opportunity, and since I didn't do it they'll ultimately find me innocent anyway", and travels to a different area full of health insurance vampires. I can't imagine the amount of donations, fame, and maybe even book and movie deals this kind of folk hero could get in the future.
- I dunno, if he really was the guy, wouldn't the police have shot him dead?
  Maybe, but check