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Bulletins and News Discussion from December 9th to December 15th, 2024 - Assad Must Go

Image is of Assad and his family.


After less than two weeks of retreating with few shots fired and little resistance, the SAA has retreated into, well, a state of non-existence. This thereby ends a conflict that has been simmering for over a decade. With the end of this conflict, another begins: the carving up of what used to be Syria between Israel and Turkey, with perhaps the odd Syrian faction getting a rump state here and there. Both Israel and Turkey have begun military operations, with Israel working on expanding their territory in Syria and bombing military bases to ensure as little resistance as possible.

Israeli success in Syria is interesting to contrast against their failures in Gaza and Lebanon. A short time ago, Israel failed to make significant territorial progress in Lebanon due to Hezbollah's resistance despite the heavy hits they had recently taken, and was forced into a ceasefire with little to show for the manpower and equipment lost and the settlers displaced. The war with Lebanon was fast, but still slow enough to allow a degree of analysis and prediction. In contrast, the sheer speed of Syria's collapse has made analysis near-impossible beyond obvious statements like "this is bad" and "Assad is fucking up"; by the time a major Syrian city had fallen, you barely had time to digest the implications before the next one was under threat.

There is still too much that we don't know about the potential responses (and non-responses) of other countries in the region - Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, and Russia, for example. I think that this week and the next will see a lot of statements made by various parties and an elucidation of how the conflict will progress. The only thing that seems clear is that we are in the next stage of the conflict, and perhaps have been, in retrospect, since Nasrallah's assassination. This stage has been and will be far more chaotic as the damage to Israel compounds and they are willing to take greater and greater risks to stay in power. It will also involve Israel causing destruction all throughout the region, rather than mostly localizing it in Gaza and southern Lebanon. Successful gambles like with Syria may or may not outweigh the unsuccessful ones like with Lebanon. This is a similar road to the one apartheid South Africa took, but there are also too many differences to say if the destination will be the same.

What is certain is that Assad's time in power can be summarized as a failure, both to be an effective leader and to create positive economic conditions. His policies were actively harmful to internal stability for no real payoff and by the end, all goodwill had been fully depleted. By the end, the SAA did not fight back; not because of some wunderwaffen on the side of HST, but because there was nothing to fight for, and internal cohesion rapidly disintegrated.


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    • was listening to radio war nerd re: georgia protests

      apparently georgian dream are not even "pro russian", they were initially pro eu, they just want some sovereignty with some economic topics and the west were not fond of that idea. they have been kind of forced into the RU position because of all the aggressive pro EU factions trying to force unfavorable economic prospects onto georgia.

      like i have it heard from the deprogram when yugopnik spoke of georgians, how every single one of them are like "we need to be more like the europeans" and basically the most liberal people you can meet, it's just once you get into power & governance you actually want to do things that don't f*ck your countries ability to exercise your independence/sovereignty

      it seems that the agents of chaos flooded the country with ngo's and with seeded a bunch of mindless bending backwards for new eu overlords, from what i recall it is fueled by the material conditions because these georgian dream are rather socially conservative, and the ngos got the socially progressive vibe.

      i hope the new government can find the issue that feeds eu fanaticism and can address their demands reasonably while not ceding their national sovereignty.

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