Musk, Ramaswamy tell Trump to end "the Covid-era privilege of staying home"

You got to love this. The Pentagon just failed its 7th audit in a row. It has a budget of $1tr. And yet the cost savings team decides that penny pinching by making life harder for workers is where the real savings are to be found. Not the giant black hole of finance which is the military industrial complex.

The asswipes, Elon and Vivek, own several empty office buildings.

So, he and his cabinet will be working 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week in DC ? Can we get that in written please ?

I agree! If Elon musk cannot show up to his offices at Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, xAI, and Washington for 8 hours Monday-Friday, he should be fired without severance as CEO or co-chair of his government department.

General strikes, anyone?

Saying the quiet part out loud again.

They believe that us not being forced to do what they want simply because they want it is a "privilege," and one that they can and will just arbitrarily decree to be null and void.

That says pretty much everything you meed to know about what they really think about everyone other than themselves.

And ironically enough, what they think is that they themselves are privileged.

So they'll be coming in every day to their offices in Washington right?

...right?

"Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome". this is and was always the reason american businesses were eager to force everybody back tp work. eat the rich.

Unless Musk somehow copied himself several times, he is working remote for most of his companies each day.

But there's literally no reason to end that if staying home still gets work done

Fuck you both

Anyone wanna bet on how many days Trump is at Mar-a-Lago during his presidency?

Then they aren't really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.

Guy who sells cars wants people to need cars.

"iT's Up To ThE sTaTes!!!1!"

I liked the meme posted a month ago...

"Great. I get to delete my work email and collaboration apps from my phone"

Musk made a rant last year interview that "It is immoral for you to work from home if people building your car, or delivering your food cannot". As an employer, you have the option to pay more for extra expenses/time involved in coming to office if that is super important to you.

why federal employees and not the private sector? oh right you want to fire half of the first group.

At least they're open about it: The entire point (according to them) is attrition. The actual plan is to make work for these people much more hostile so they quit.

So the government telling businesses how they have to operate is small government now?

god I fucking hate these people. Pure fucking hatred.

How many days do you think it will take until he calls for unions to be declared illegal?

Working from home for all jobs that it is compatible with should be a mandate to help lower the amount of gas necessary for commuting.

I contract for uscis. It's fully distributed, there's no way to enforce this without crippling the agency. So it would hobble the mass deportation plan. Very curious how this might turn out

Imagine owning the libs by spending your whole life trapped in an office serving capital.

Get a government job they said, it’s super safe and secure they said.

We owe commercial real estate investors exactly jacksh’t. This is, at least in part, about securing income for commercial landlords. Their “jobs” aren’t any more precious than anyone else’s jobs that are being impacted hard by this changing era. If they would like to fill their buildings, they can fork over some cash to convert parts of them to housing.

Ha ha, joke's on them. Our office doesn't have space for all of us. We downsized to ..gasp.. save money, which is what the federal government is supposed to do. They'd also have to renegotiate the union contract, something they just finished doing, so it's not something they really even can address for several years at least.

But Biden isn't squeaky clean on this either, he mandated some percentage of office space being utilized. Supposedly this was to help local businesses, like the fast food chicken place across the street that has survived without us there for almost 5 years now. (They were renovating our building and had us all move out during the pandemic.)

But there's something wrong with the formula being used to calculate utilization of the building - and in our case, even if every cube was full every day, we still wouldn't meet the requirement, because of how it's calculated. I don't have details, but it apparently includes space people can't occupy - like server rooms and the cafeteria - and there's no way to get an exception.

I'm pretty sure upper management would continue the telework setup if they could (I really think they intended to be primarily remote before the Biden administration put the brakes on it). But higher authorities have said no. Our current telework agreement is that we have to go into the office twice per pay period (two weeks), which isn't too bad, but I'd still prefer not. My return to office is scheduled for February. We're bracing for a lot of people to find other jobs or retire, and it has already begun.

I'm hoping to retire in about 7 years. Maybe this next administration will buy me out. I'd be open to a generous severance package.

Why? I think businesses should be left alone to decide.

“The Deep State appreciates your hard work, know how, and dedication. Come work for us from home and help stymie the Shallow State”

Lol they're not going to get top talent unless they raise pay

It did seem weird to me that Harris or any of the other democratic candidates campaigned on remote work. Seems like a smart pro-worker position to take that would directly impact a group she was trying to court: college educated professionals who skew male. Plus lower environmental impact, cheaper gas, more opportunities for working parents, etc.

The cynical reason I assume it wasn’t a talking point is because the 1% who directed the media conversation had a vested interest in return to pre-Covid status quo.

A people elected government has a mandate to protect its people. Its real frightening to see that instead it announces adopt the worst business practises of private economy.

"Psst, Doogees, wait until you guys see what Robbie has planned for stay-at-home."

Imma be real... this isn't even a GOP vs DNC thing, the government has always fucking haaaaated telework, especially since Covid let the genie out of the bottle.

It's still going to be handled significantly worse than the DNC would though.

kagis

It sounds like he would have the authority to require in-office work.

https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/telework-faq/remote-work/

Does an employee have a right to engage in remote work?

No. Remote work is not a universal employee benefit or an employee right.

Can a manager deny a request for remote work?

Yes. Because of the policy and potential costs implications of remote work arrangements, agencies should evaluate and consider such requests (especially those submitted primarily for the convenience of the employee), on a case-by-case basis, highlighting the cost effectiveness and business benefits to the agency or organization.

Can a manager terminate an existing remote work arrangement?

Yes. An agency may determine that a remote work arrangement no longer meets the business needs of the organization or that the arrangement negatively impacts the employee's performance. However, terminating a remote work arrangement, particularly if the employee resides outside the local commuting area of the agency worksite, may require additional considerations. If the decision is made to terminate the remote work arrangement for business reasons, there may be costs implications for the agency to consider.

That being said, my guess is that at least some federal employees probably pretty much have to work outside of the office, just because of the nature of the job -- like, it may be travel-intensive. I guess they could end work-from-home stuff.