What other left or left-adjacent people will turn out to be grifters? Who will not?
What other left or left-adjacent people will turn out to be grifters? Who will not?
Since unsurprisingly the Redscare people are going fash, it would be good to know who's a grifter and who's not. What's your predictions?
My predictions:
Grifters:
- Zizek
- AOC
- 1-2 from Cumtown (it's anyone's guess)
Not Grifters
- The Deprogram Boys (ok I'm still in honeymoon)
- Jezza (obviously)
- Richard Wolfe & Harriet Fraad
- Viki1999
Viki1999
Sorry OP you fucked up
Gritty is gonna break my heart some day. Idk when. Idk how. But this romance has an aura of doom about it.
Trashfuture will start a company that does rent-to-own for office jackoff pods or something, while insisting it's all ironic
it's true that they're the most bribable podcasters around. Give me a briefcase of East German paraphenalia and rare wine and I'll have em endorsing anything by the end of the week
They will do British Jan 6th after prime minister Matt Hancock is forced to step down.
It's all part a plan to personally redistribute Masayoshi Son's wealth by wasting it
I think she might already be there but Briahna Joy Gray (probably spelled that wrong). i stopped listening pretty close to the start but it kinda seemed like maybe Virgil was keeping their awful podcast leftish and as soon as he dipped out she started veering more to the right. I used to check the patreon comments because I'm a sick freak, and I'd see people begging her to have "gender critical" people and other reactionary shitheads on. idk if she's still even doing that dog shit podcast now that she's on that rising show but it's kinda wild to see her go from working on Bernie's campaign to doing her whole Greenwald-esque shit now and allying with Jimmy Dore and those weirdos
Post-Bernie it seems like things are split between the "left edge of the Democratic party" types like Sam Seder and the "contrarian left" like BJG and Krystal Ball, who can veer too close to Jimmy Dore territory. It takes many levels of irony and detachment to avoid falling into these categories, which is a problem in its own right. Very little principled leftism out there
Since unsurprisingly the Redscare people are going fash
Are you posting from a year ago? They've been full weirdo trad people for about that long. They started going fash maybe in like 2020. Hell, a lot of people did around the same time (failure of the Bernie campaign) or some weird red-brown hybrid. I think it's a safe bet that whoever is more or less aligned with their pre-2020 views at this point is just showing their true politics. Not saying they're definitely not grifters, but sort of the key point where every clout chaser on earth decided to pivot and triangulate happened like 2 years ago.
Vikki has a tiny audience, but she's a big lib, so it could go either way on that.
Vikki has a tiny audience, but she's a big lib, so it could go either way on that.
You were proven right
Not Grifters: :citations-needed:
The person reading this comment :sicko-hexbear:
I've frequently thought about how easy it is to market bullshit health products because the people that buy into it have mush for brains and will believe anyone that's sounds even marginally respectable.
Young podcasters who did absolutely nothing in their 20s and early 30s but podcast. There's no real jump to mainstream media for most of them. They can't podcast the same show forever and probably don't have any more fresh ideas in them. Once their livelihood starts to go under, they'll become more reactionary. A systemic change that results in them not podcasting will be a threat to them. They'll be resentful of new voices because that means the old voices aren't marketable anymore. The idea of going back to a "real job" is frightful.
I love TrashFuture, but probably them. A large number of leftist podcasts fall into either Chapo-adjacent (TrueAnon, Trillbillies, Antifada, etc.) or TrashFuture-adjacent (Bottlemen, WTYP, Kill James Bond, Lions Led by Donkeys) and while I listen to a lot of the TF ones they’ve always felt much more grifty to me
Pretty much just looks like you dont like the WTYP hosts.... WTYP, TF, Kill James Bond, Lions led by donkeys. You can kinda see a trend here.
Oh no to be clear I listen to all of those except lions led by donkeys, and I’ve listened to a lot of that too. If I had a new episode of every podcast I listen to, West Wing Thing is probably the only one that I’d listen to before TF, and WTYP would be next. Alice in particular I really like, I honestly can’t get enough of stuff she makes. Liam isn’t my favorite, and I love that his dad always dunks on him for being a lib.
Liam is definitely a grifter, Alice and :rocz-yes: are on the maybe list.
I'd put :flattened-bernie: in the Not Grifters column because he spent like 40 years being a back-bencher, until 8 years ago when everyone came around to his point of view. But I could be convinced otherwise.
He's grifting on the technicality that he claims to be a democratic socialist but is actually a social Democrat, but if he's graded on the curve of American politics he comes out looking very good