I was hospitalized for a seizure recently and the nurse ended up going and grabbing me a little silicon bubble fidget thing because I just couldn't stop messing with shit.
Edit: exact phrasing was "let me go grab you something to play with"
Similar situation but I was at a work event sitting next to a colleague I didn't know very well. We work in IT so our boss had placed a bunch of fidget toys at each table. After maybe 10 minutes of us being there, she grabbed one and said "here, you need this".
It did actually help me that day and now I just carry one with me or else just stim with my jewelry, which I hadn't noticed is something I do until that day.
Some person I just met at a party asked me if I have Asperger’s. He explained he has Asperger’s himself and just wondered.
I thought it was a rude remark of him. Especially since we barely know each other. I certainly don’t have Asperger’s.
This was some years ago.
Either way, I just got diagnosed.
Yeah at a party here as well. I was told I had ASD, but was 'high functioning', and able to mask it. Sounds about right.
Does my doctor who stopped in the middle of an appointment, looked at me, and said "you know you're neurodivergent, right?" count?
A friend recently commented "Of course you have ADHD! Just look at your apartment! Spots that are important for your hobbies are designed with surgical precision and everything else slowly sinks into chaos."
He might be right.
My kids got screening forms for ADHD and I just kept saying "but this is normal" after almost all of the questions, I thought they were control questions not screening questions, and my kids were like "no, Mom, you have ADD". I still tend to think it's pretty typical though, more like our brains just weren't evolved for modern life.
I am trying to get diagnosed as an adult and recently reached out to my parents for symptoms from when I was younger as those are necessary for adult diagnosis. My mom had pretty much the same reaction as you when I went over the symptoms. Lol ADHD is genetic.
I am learning an instrument as an adult and my instructor commented “You’re so good at recognizing patterns.” That comment hit way harder than it had any right to.
Reminds me of one of mine. In the middle of my lesson, my instrument teacher paused to ask me some questions: can you tie your shoes without looking? Do you have trouble unlocking your door in the dark? Etc. Turns out I have little to no muscle memory lol.
Holy crap is that a thing? I have to pay attention to stuff like that - I will be brushing my teeth and it seems awkward and I'll realize I'm using my non dominant hand.
Though my feet do point reflexively when I jump or kick, and arm positions for dance I can feel still, large motor skills my body remembers.
ETA I've been thinking about this and don't think the right/left thing is the same, because I can touch type without looking on a real keyboard. That is muscle memory for sure.
If you don't mind me asking is there more context to this or was it literally in the middle of an annual physical or something
We're in the ancestor simulation, buddy. It's why being decent is painted as rebellious and we all hear "you're very observant" all the time.
My boss has got very high EQ, but tends to have fraught, tense relationships with our female coworkers (I described it to my husband as working with a mother and daughter who don’t get along- they say a bunch of things that seem nice and also seem to hurt each other a lot and I don’t know why).
She sometimes says passive aggressive things to me, but it always takes me too long to parse passive aggression in person, so I respond completely earnestly. This seems to confuse her without being rude, and she’s just vexed by me.
Actually, passive aggression in general makes me feel very neurodivergent.
Honestly this seems like the best way to deal with someone being passive aggressive. If they have a problem make them actually say something.
I fully agree. It’s not always intentional, because sometimes I do pick up on it (probably the non native language + work makes it just impossible to get in the moment from her), but I almost always pretend not to, and it generally defuses the situation pretty well.
I’m also a crier, so the alternative is not great
I do this on purpose. I also ignore all the signs that someone's taking to me "just to be nice". If you're nice, then you're nice. If you're just pretending to be nice, suck it up cuz it's working.
I dated a girl who worked with elderly neurodivergent people. She was at my place and i heard the dryer was done with it's cycle. I said i'll have to go and make my bed, because you know how it is, if you don't do it right away, you're not doing it for two weeks.
She laughed and said: but you know why "we" have to do that, right? I was like: what? No. And she said, because we have adhd.
I just laughed and thought: YOU have adhd, i do..... Oooooooooooh
A friend posted a link to something and mentioned me saying "you're hyper literal brain will like this" and when I got done being annoyed about the typo I realized for the first time I am excessively literal.
Another time at lunch with a friend she mentioned in an offhand way that I have anxiety and that was when I first realized what anxiety is and that it's not normal to feel the way I do all the time.
I didn't get converted to a permanent position after a whole year at my job. The only negative feedback (among otherwise great remarks) I had was six months in:
- Be more organized and send updates more often.
- Speak without tangents or sounding scattered.
- Improve prediction of how long tasks will take and completion dates when considering other priorities.
Does anyone want to guess my diagnosis?* Lol
The maddening thing is that I didn't get any follow-up after those comments until five months later, when I got the surprising news that they would not be continuing with me. If I had thought my subsequent med change and work strategies were not, in fact, improving my performance, I would have pursued accommodations.
* It's ADHD.
No one person specifically, but it was all the ADHD memes that had me actually go and get checked. Ended up diagnosed with ADHD, Asperger's, and BPD. I didn't even know about BPD until I was told I had it.
what has your experience with bpd been like ?
Horrible.
I got a weird one. Multiple friends, including one who is diagnosed with autism and one who is diagnosed with ADHD and family members have asked me if I thought I had some form of neurodivergence. The autist friend thinks probably autism, the ADHD friend thinks maybe ADHD. The others, who don't know much, mostly asked about autism or aspergers. But I don't see ASD as fitting at all.
I'm quite introverted and don't do well in big social situations, sure. I also don't deal well with conflict even if I'm not directly involved. But I have no issue with faces, or eye contact, or body language, or reading emotions, or sarcasm.
I'm quite analytical in my thinking, but not overly so, I would say. Sometimes I get episodes of hyper-focus where I stay on a task for unnaturally long, not managing to take a break to eat and such. That one is a bit suspicious, but it's also a pretty rare occurrence.
To be fair, there are symptoms shared between many ND diagnoses, and you can have aspects of one or more without meeting the criteria for diagnosis. At the end of the day, I think it's about helping to find resources to help your individual situation
My psychiatrist does all the time
It’s not a specific person and not directly confronting me but the thing that really helped open my eyes was all the people out there that have at most 1 or 2 hobbies. Like, I talk about all the things I want to learn and do all the time but everyone else always has this one particular thing. How do people only have 2 things they do ever, for years. I didn’t get it. I’m in the process of approaching testing with my counselors now.
I was working on a personal project when a friend visited. I went through a quick series of successes and failures with my project and openly emoted at each, afterward he said to me "I've never seen anyone go through so many emotions in such a short amount of time."
Had 2 psychologists refuse to work with me, after they got to know me
Psychologists don't just refuse to work with neurodivergent people, if they did that would be a lot of patients. There is a lot more context to this statement that you haven't shared.
I think you misunderstand. Psychologists may presumably refuse to work with individuals with this user's particular neurodivergence.
It's not exactly the same as a real life situation, but Tony Soprano's psychiatrist eventually refuses to work with him over some (perhaps misdiagnosed) sociopathy.
In my case, they did. Yes, of course there is more context.
For extra context, various therapeutic methods do not work as well on neurodivergent people, especially people on the spectrum. CBT, one of the main go-to (adjunctive at least) therapies for example, is nearly useless for most folks on the spectrum.
So it may be that their therapists discovered they were not equipped to help op with their issue(s).
I was at a party just yesterday (very unlike me) that was mostly people I don't know and within the first hour someone asked me if I was on ADHD medication.
I mean I'm not on medication which is probably how I got pinned so quickly but I still found it funny that in a crowd of people that has never met me I apparently still scream TISM.
I’ve definitely talked about ND behaviors within minutes of meeting strangers at parties (either they bring it up or I do about myself, never calling someone else out for it).
I’m a nerd, therefore most of my friends are nerds, and so too are their friends. While I don’t have data to back this up, I believe most nerds are ND (I literally can’t think of any NT folks in my social circle). We tend to be good at pattern recognition, so identifying similar traits when there’s already the confirmation of being friends-of-friends tends to be enough to get into such topics, lol.
In my case, I was awkward-dancing by myself while everyone else was just showing up, then I made a comment about how infrequently I ate and was asked if I was taking stimulants.
I've never been diagnosed with anything, but I'm not good with people/the public, I can shake if it's really bad, and I'm not good with eye contact. I was forced to go to a work meeting and I just could not look at anyone. They started talking to me "soft" and saying that I "speak so well" and that I was a good representation for that "community" of workers. They also told me to speak to my manager if I needed any accommodations.
I have often been asked if I have autism. They often seem ready to wonder this if it seems like a situation is approaching where I can't, in their eyes and their words, "read the room". The very concept "of reading the room", they then have to be told, plays out differently even on a cultural level. I am not of a common cultural background, and this is said to demonstrate itself in, say, seeing someone's arms crossed. I see crossed arms and, if anything, I'm going to assume "decision maker mode". They then ask "don't you see I'm angry".
For our sake, I'd be lying to say I don't operate based on "tell, don't show", which is the opposite of what others often say, which is supposed to be beneficial yet often gives off the opposite impression because people want to cling to the idea that assumptions are inherent. People often also complain about how complex yet semantically loose (owing to "culture", but at the same time I wonder why people, again, use their own expectations of verbal norms to assume what something must mean, instead of acknowledging dictionary-described words and sentences are just the word equivalent of mathematical equations) my communication is. Relevantly, that can be combined with my experiences with, ironically, people bashing me for not living up to their "unspoken directives" rather than gentility inspired by how I would say I expect logic to work, to produce the impression in me that maybe neurodivergent people are onto something with their sense of clockwork, placing me in what could be called autistic culture by nurture rather than nature, as is my calling when I'm told I'm only destined to rattle around in the realm of normal people. The neurotypical practice of succumbing to bias based on trained taboo and the infallibility of their dear ones (relevant among the gossipers) has done nothing except disillusion me in the presence of all who willingly exist without a striving for protocol clockwork, and if I had an ark, I would fill it with these neurodivergent people they say they fear.
Based on your post, you're not autistic, you're just a writer.
I don't think I'm ND even though sometimes I'm a little awkward in person and make up for it in other ways. Unfortunately, one of my aunts doesn't think so and spent a good portion of a family meeting trying to convince everyone that I have Aspbergers because she had just learned about it and found my behavior odd when she went to ask me a question and started me. I could hear all the shit she was talking through the wall saying how antisocial I was for keeping to myself. Then years later she proceeded to wreck the family but that's a different story, so I'm left wondering who the antisocial one really is.
Sounds like your aunt was projecting from what little you've said.
I had been wondering why the Asperger/ ASD communities on Lemmy are so quiet. Now I’m wondering if we just assume most Lemmy users are ND either way? Sure seems like it with this question.
Also OT: yes, when I was a kid but always brushed it off. Now that I’m recently diagnosed so many things are starting to make sense but I’m still new to this. I guess I’m high functioning and very good at masking.
I don't think I'm very ND but it's very obvious to me in all social settings that I'm not NT. it's a variety of things, but typically it's like people staring straight into your eye balls when you talk to them, or the touching, or things like queueing or pathing to and from a place
Everybody every day. It's not glamorous the way you all sell it.
…not until now…
Probably in K-12? Like seriously everyone in my "friend" groups and half of my classes knew something about me was off, and I believe I was known as the eccentric genius throughout middle/high school (and my HS had a lot of smart students). But the broader culture I was in didn't believe in mental health so...
Other than that... there were two people I relate to very well on Mastodon (when I first joined), one of whom is very openly autistic; hence why I got tested. That's probably as obvious as it gets
How would I know if something is wrong with me?
Probably in their mind, but not that I'd care to pay attention; so not obvious to me.
Human beings are diverse. defining a human as "divergent" is meaningless and so fucking dumb. Psychologists seem to be really bad at statistical analysis; and/or data collection that is representative of the species. But they're maybe good at conning mugs to pay them to denigrate people who don't fit their world view, or confound their predictions.
It's not meaningless. Some peoples brain work in a completely different way than the majority, and why should we ignore that? It's very important knowledge to figure out things.
It's not like it's a tiny scale of small differences between people. It's more like 99% being quite similar and then 1% being completely different. That is very significant. Numbers are made up to make a point.
It's almost like saying let's not study sociopaths because they are just like everyone else. They aren't.
"Completely" different, interesting way to put it. Diagnosis must be trivial.
I caught people at work making fun of the way I walk when I was in a hurry. They didn’t know I’m neurodivergent and just thought it was funny. At my expense I guess. I was diagnosed ADHD a long time ago but I thought I was pretty normal otherwise. Guess not.
Girl in my studio art class has trouble socializing. She rambles on way too long, repeats herself often, requires others to repeat things to her, has trouble following instructions, that kinda stuff.
Then she comes up to me one day and says "I can tell you're autistic" (something like that)
Turns out all this time it was pretty obvious I was also autistic.
