A TikTok alternative called Loops is coming for the fediverse | Users own their content, and Loops doesn’t sell or provide videos to third-party advertisers or train AI on them. It will be open source

Maybe I'm just old, but I traveled by plane recently (I don't fly very often) and seeing everyone around me mindlessly scrolling short-form video content was shocking. Looked identical to the people in the space ship in WALL-E.

I don't think TikTok community is compatible with the idea of fediverse

TikTok exists to give you large floods of endorphins via either an algorithm trained to your interests or by giving you big numbers. And this is not exclusive to TikTok, this is just how modern "social" media works, it's the sole reason why bluesky succeeded more than mastodon

Modern social media is mostly a hive mind of people affirming each other driven by algorithms. Fediverse on the other hand, always boils down to a old fashioned usenet style network made just so people can talk with each other. You can't really get addicted to fedi

I wasn't really alive during the wild west internet (im 19). I got into the net during the transition from forums to modern social media and reddit was my first social. I tried getting into facebook and instagram because everyone else was there but I just didn't like it much.

I don't know why but "the algorithm" is really boring for me. I only tried algorithm driven feeds on reddit (after u/spez) and on tumblr but the recommendations were always extremely "fake". Other sorting methods like "new" or "by most active" just feel more like as if there was someone on the other side of the keyboard

They don't have to sell or provide videos to third parties, because they can just do it themselves.

That's the nature of actual federation. It's not private.

Im guessing it's going to be missing all the features that make tiktok popular like duets and pedophilia.

My problem with tiktok/reels/shorts is not that they aren't federated. It's the entire format/concept I hate.

Yes, and it will still be brainrot.

My attention span is just fine. I don't need to see it ruined by short format nonsense with about as much intellectual value as the nutritional value of a McDonald's cheeseburger.

I never installed TikTok or Snapchat on my phone, not because I had privacy concerns, but because I hate everything about the format.

TikTok gathering data and selling it to whoever is a problem but it's not the problem.

The problem of TikTok and many other social media is that it drains our energy and motivation. It's like digital weed, creates the feeling that there's no reason to change things. We can just consume things.

Hmmm…

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Ignoring the myriad of other issues listed in this thread, the bit about training AI is pretty misleading. It's not hard to scrape webpages for whatever kind of data you like, even if loops doesn't outright hand things over for third parties for that purpose.

And the kind of people who are downloading the entire internet to train AIs are the type to be willing to just scrape without permission.

TikTok is popular because it's addicting, not because it's useful, so I don't understand why anyone would use this.

Very cool that its federated but to be honest i just dont like this kind of short form content. I ratherd watch a youtube video.

ITT: People in their mid-twenties or later, who feel superior to those that like one form of media over their preferred media.

Elitism aside, I don't really see what federation solves here. What benefits does federation offer the user? How does the recommendation algorithm give users what they want? How will a decentralised platform perform the kind of centralised events a platform like TikTok is known for?

Isn't it just a Pixelfed instance but yellow?

Not interested in the short-video concept. But I like the name, though. Short, sweet, doesn't sound too "techy", not too complicated to pronounce or spell.

Anyone actually got an email? I have signed up and haven’t gotten one all week :(

Who is going to pay to host all this content?

Also wish it were 5 or 10 minute limit rather than 60 seconds.

Awesome! This sounds like a much better way for me to share the occasional video of either or both of my dogs being super cute on c/dogs (and on other non-Lemmy forums) than relying on an anonymous YouTube account.

(I may have partially used this post as an excuse to share a video of one of my dogs being super cute.)

Headline should say coming TO the Fediverse.

"It's coming for you!" has a more aggressive meaning.

Bröthër, whërë ärë my lööps?

Granted, TicTok is worse than cancer so technically speaking this is of course a "good" step. But I have such a distaste (or rather hatred) for this type of content (same with Shorts), that I still cannot feel good about it.

short-form looping video

What about regular videos?

I'm still waiting for the further instructions they promised to send by mail lol

I don't really need any form of TikTok im afraid

I wanted an account, verification email is not arrived.

I signed up for Loops the first day. I didn't get an email confirmation until two days after, and I still haven't been given a way to sign in.

(insert here the "The TikTok at home" meme format) So actually I did my own with PeerTube (self hosted server side) and Latrix (mobile client to live stream) and you can see the result at https://video.benetou.fr/w/p/hfPcHz1kCgnM6zKhfPrS4b (playlist of 6 short videos with progress over time).

I'd argue it... works. Is it necessary or useful? Well I didn't keep up with the format but it potentially can be. My point being... we already have quite a few tools in place.

Lemmy’s final boss..

Then again, Lemmy and ActivityPub are (by design) wide open to anyone, including TenCent

But will it have porn?

anyone actually get an account? i signed up as soon as it was announced a year or so ago and haven't heard a peep.

This is pretty cool. I'll check it out.

Sounds cool for hosting videos! Maybe I'll try it.

The first round of applications are for ios only, android has to wait, would have liked to have known that information before I spent the last week waiting.

will it be fruity ?

Go fediverse 😍

Headline should say coming TO the Fediverse.

"I'm coming for you!" has a very different meaning

Cool

Not interested in the short-video concept. But it's a great name, though. Short, sweet, and doesn't sound too "techy". Just like the normies like it. :)

not to be a Debbie Downer or anything but I bet it runs like shit

Yep. The world just needs more stupid videos from stupid people. Just federated.

Oh no, please no, hell no, fuck no