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dumb people shouldn't participate in society. no one is ever going to legislate that. it's up to us to make sure they don't.
Define dumb, otherwise I'll start by saying it's the people who don't capitalize words
oh boy. if you don't know what too dumb to participate in society is, then you're either purposely obtuse or guilty.
i don't capitalize my words because i believe in casual conversation. this isn't a business proposal. lighten up.
My issue is that whoever defines what "dumb" is becomes the defacto dictator. I could choose a set of values that align with what I think are important - Someone who does well in an IQ test, someone who understands the importance of being physically fit - and then all of a sudden, people with disabilities become marginalized.
I asked you to define "dumb" because that definition needs to be crafted extremely well. The fact you didn't realize this makes me think you're dumb. Maybe you shouldn't participate in society.
"I asked you to define “dumb” because that definition needs to be crafted extremely well"
that answer makes me think the same of you. there is no one size fits all rule. people need to start thinking in chaotic good terms. you know the people that shouldn't be allowed to participate when you see them. sociopaths have led us to believe that we as individuals do not have the capacity to make judgements so that that they can create abusive laws. start being a village again.
You literally said
dumb people shouldn't participate in society.
And then followed up with
there is no one size fits all rule [to define dumb people]
So you think dumb people shouldn't participate in society, but you also don't think you can define who dumb people are.
sociopaths have led us to believe that we as individuals do not have the capacity to make judgements so that that they can create abusive laws. start being a village again.
I appreciate the sentiment, but what happens when someone starts to accumulate power, and there's no laws to stop them? You think people are going to rise up? You think the people who rise up won't become the next dictator?
ok. i see you struggle to think for yourself, so let me try to define dumb people for you.
- lack of critical thinking skills
- lack of empathy
Your lack of ability to see the flaw in your argument means you have no critical thinking skills, and your insult towards me means you have no empathy.
As the person in charge of deciding who is dumb, I have deemed you dumb, and you can no longer participate in society. You have now been evicted from your house.
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Do you see the problem with your idea, yet?
nope, but you're starting to come around.
you see, i'm not going to let you do that. i'm going to fight back, which is what any reasonable person should do.
you see, in the end, there is no right or wrong. the critical thinking and empathy are completely arbitrary ideas that I PERSONALLY think are important. i gave importance to those ideas. i will fight to defend those ideas.
ultimately, there are only winners and losers. it's my hope that there are enough people who also think critical thinking and empathy are important things worth fighting for that we can beat the sociopaths who don't value those ideals. but that's where i'm at. i'm ready to solve the question of humanity's identity once and for all. my hope is that the people who think like me can achieve a final victory over the assholes, BUT i'd just as soon see all of the good guys die and leave this world to the sociopaths than continue this struggle for another century or however long it takes us to kill ourselves.
There isn't really agreement on who is too shitty to "participate in society", whatever that means. And if you build a mechanism to exclude people, assholes will use it for evil.
But like if I had a magic wand I would remove all republicans from power. They make it easy by self identifying as shitheads.
yes, sociopaths will use any legal metric they can to their advantage. that's why lawful evil societies (like the one we live in) can only be combated with chaotic good techniques.
all of you people that need legal definitions i find dull and poindexterish. the more you touch grass, the more obvious everything becomes.