Banner has CAKE. His ass was the real hulk all along
Isn't this basically just how World War Hulk started?
That certainly ended well.
Technically yes, by way of Planet Hulk first.
I liked the She-Hulk show fine, but they literally couldn't have picked a worse way to try and introduce the Hulk Kids.
Except possibly with the Old Man Logan Hulk Kids.
Dat ass tho 🥵
HULK smaaaaaash 😍
Insert that gif
Defenders of the Status Quo video from Pop Culture Detective fits this comic nicely
Wrong comment.
What the fuck does this mean?
I don't really get why you're being down voted just for asking. I don't get why people are like that.
Lemmy hive mind. And nobody better touch their belovid capitalist superheroes owned by a company that profits billions every year! Except when some comic artist gives "thor" an obnoxious butt.
Do you have 20 minutes? Here is an excellent video
I gotta get to bed but I'll bookmark it.
Yep, friends dragged me to the iron man 1 movie... As soon as it's revealed that he kept strippers on his plane, I was certain I didn't like him, and he was a douche bag.
He's an Ayn Rand style technocrat sleaze bag. Not a good person, more of just an entitled and immature rich guy. It's a fantasy comic for immature teenage boys.
[EDIT: ITT, people deny the premise of the comic they just read].
That was very much the intended message of that scene, I'm glad you understood it, but it seems like you ignored the rest of the movie by focusing on that and definitely never watched the sequel where he worked through a lot of that stuff.
Yep, if you give me a shitty person with no empathetic characteristics I'm gonna switch off a little...
... that's why good writing and good movies ACTIVELY AVOID turning the audience off their characters.
Oh they fixed it in a follow up movie??
That's your argument that I should have paid attention to the first movie and really liked the hateable unrelatable main character??? That there was another two hour movie I should have committed to?
Surely you see how that's a bad argument and you're defending a crappy movie.
Hey you should watch (and like) Terminator 5 because they really fix it up with Terminator 7 and 8.
Nah bro, that's not a good defense. That's a shitty argument.
Your basic argument seems to be that protagonists should not have character development that involves them realizing what a piece of shit they are and then change? How boring.
No, he's still a cocky privileged shit at the end, I'm saying it wasn't a convincing arc or character development, and led no where. He was still just "fantasy rich guy" and the message was still just "wouldn't you like his life!" - the problem is that requires the audience to be VERY immature and stupid to begin with. I never felt a desire to be him or live his life. He seems like a pathetic kind of person really. That's honestly how I feel about Tony Stark, he seems like one of these rich guys whose not comfortable with himself and uses a cocky attitude as a defense mechanism. I just don't find that to be a compelling character, nor did I see any real change there.
EDIT: ITT, people deny the premise of the comic they just read].
Comics Stark is generally a narcissistic alcoholic asshole who drives away everyone who cares about him and who has ruined his own company more times than I can count.
Hubris is practically his main enemy.
He was Elon Musk (with the exception that Stark actually is a genius while Musk is dumb as a box of rocks) decades before Musk even moved to the USA.
You've never been supposed to like him (except when written by some hack who doesn't understand the character). The only core Marvel hero more unlikable than him is Henry fucking Pym, who somehow manages to be even more of an entitled narcissistic asshole, but without the money or the charm.
The premise of the books is that heroes can be flawed, small, broken, unsympathetic assholes, behind the mask.
What made Marvel different back in the sixties when they got back into superhero books is that their heroes were human, flaws and all. Peter Parker was a broke teenager way out of his depth who accidentally got his uncle killed; Steve Rogers was a man out of his time pursued by ghosts of the past; Bruce Banner effectively had multiple personality disorder and ran away from society (and himself) to avoid causing harm; the Fantastic Four and the X-Men were families, with all the petty little squabbles that come with that, the latter having to deal with discrimination on top of that; and Tony Stark was a wealthy, narcissistic, alcoholic asshole, who played the hero to cope with it.
Now, of course Iron Man was not the right character to kickstart Marvel's cinematic universe. Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, or the X-Men would have been the ideal ones. Iron Man was never one of Marvel's best selling books, probably for the same reasons you don't like the character.
But it was the least worst they had left, after selling the others' rights to other companies. And, somehow, in great part thanks to Robert Downey Jr. practically having been born to play Tony Stark, they made it work.
Sure, they had a bit of a redemption arc; he stopped selling weapons, he managed to eventually have a family that loved him despite his flaws, and he died sacrificing himself to save the world... but he also created Ultron (with all the chaos that ensued), caused the Avengers to break up, and never really stopped being a self entitled narcissistic asshole.
But, here's the thing: there's nothing wrong with unlikable protagonists when acknowledged as such, even if they don't get a redemption arc.
Plenty of great books and films have extremely unlikely and flawed protagonists, who never redeem themselves.
See Tyler Durden, see Jack Sparrow, see Rorschach... fuck, see Victor Frankenstein, or Henry Jekyll, or captain Ahab, if you want to go deep.
The Iron Man films are not Marvel's best. They aren't deep, they don't add, by themselves, anything significant to the history of cinematography. They're just fun, simple, action films.
It's perfectly fine not to like them, everyone is entitled to their tastes. But not liking them because the protagonist is an entitled narcissistic asshole... is kind of missing the point, and not seeing the forest for the trees.
(Do note, though, that viewers who idolise Stark are also missing the point, probably to an even greater extent; like Rorschach or Tyler Durden you can enjoy a well written and acted character, but you're not supposed to idolise them or want to emulate them. They might be “the good guys”, maybe, but they're definitely not good people.)
Yes, that is literally the intended character.
Stan Lee wanted to make the most horrible being they could come up with (narcissist, weapon vendor, egomaniac, ...) to then try and turn them into a hero.
It was an experiment that turned out quite well.
It's always fascinating to see someone preemptively argue with what they think others are going to say.
