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2024 Italian Grand Prix - [POST RACE] discussion thread ๐Ÿ

ROUND 16: ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Italy


FORMULA 1 PIRELLI GRAN PREMIO Dโ€™ITALIA 2024


Circuit stats


  • Circuit name: Autodromo Nazionale Monza
  • First Grand Prix: 1950
  • Number of laps: 53
  • Circuit Length: 5.793 km
  • Race Distance: 306.72 km
  • Lap record: 1:21.046 Rubens Barrichello (2004)
  • 2023 winner: Max Verstappen

Track Map


22 comments
  • Look I don't want to sound like a downer and I'm happy for Charles and all, but it's hard not to have severe frustration at McLaren as your main takeaway from this race. They're being complete idiots and I simply don't understand it. Piastri should not be attacking Norris on lap one, he should protect him. Team orders suck, but you have to be ruthless if you want to be champion. But maybe they just don't care about winning?

    I'm at least happy Albon got two good points, even though it was thanks to Magnusson's bone-headed penalty as Haas successfully undercut him. Shame Alonso missed out on a point by 19 hundreds, but AM just don't have the pace right now so can't complain.

  • Awesome race and extremely excited for Charles. But man, until Mclaren are mathematically eliminated, Mclaren should be playing ruthless to get points. These mistakes are embarrassing and it's a shame that these exciting wins keep getting sidetracked by Mclaren strategy

    • With 8 Grand Prix and 3 Sprints to go Lando would need to outscore Max by 7.75 points on average every remaining race weekend. Considering Red Bull's struggles with their car and competitiveness of Mercedes and Ferrari, just a mix of consistent podiums and wins would give Norris a good shot at WDC. Even today he closed the gap by 8 points, and there's still Singapore and Qatar coming up, so I'm expecting a bigger swing in favour of McLaren. It's baffling they aren't using every opportunity to give Norris every possible point right now. I understand not wanting to strip Piastri of his first win in Hungary, but today their unwillingness to issue team orders cost them easy points.

      On the other hand, good for Piastri. Unless McLaren takes a clear stance on prioritizing Lando, Oscar has no reason to act like his doormat number 2 driver. It would be hard for him to shake that reputation, and who knows how the WDC fight will look like in 2025.

      • Zak said in the pre race show that he has โ€œ2 number 1 driversโ€ so that is how they drive.

        Now speculation mode on: I think behind the scenes Piastriโ€™s manager Mark Webber is pulling some serious strings so his driver will not be treated as a number 2 driverโ€ฆor should I sayโ€ฆMulti21 driver. Webberโ€™s been in that situation and heโ€™ll make very sure it ainโ€™t happening under his watch again.

  • McLaren trying to win championships challenge (Impossible)

    I think at this point it's clear they don't want to go for the WDC for whatever reason. And with Ferrari not that far behind and them blundering like this again and again, I would not be surprised if they don't win the WCC as well.

    And to be a bit sarcastic: I'm sure Lando is happy to have let Oscar pass in Hungary after they told him how important the team is for his chances.

    • To win the drivers championship, McLaren had to execute 9 perfect races including Monza. We're talking about a team that had 0 perfect races this season. Norris isn't in the fight, the intrigue that the media is creating is purely artificial. Which is sad, because this season is interesting enough without it. There is no need for unreasonable fantasies.

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