12mo ago

VanillaOS 2.O released!

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Release Vanilla OS 2 Orchid · Vanilla-OS/live-iso

They did some crazy stuff, also implementing core technologies from the ground up.

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Son of a bitch, I put the beta on last night lol.
- Watch your mouth kid ☝️😛
  
  What, beta?
From the OS deployment method I still prefer rpm-ostree (Fedora atomic desktops) due to resetting, rebasing and having multiple images.
But the tooling is brilliant and can also work on other distros.
Apx is just using distrobox, so it is cross-distro.
Meanwhile their f-droid waydroid integration is really neat, while Waydroid is a pretty big security mess.
- Meanwhile their f-droid waydroid integration is really neat, while Waydroid is a pretty big security mess.
  it is?
  
  Yes it is. Waydroid is based on Android 11 and runs as a rootful container.
  Also, Android uses SELinux as a core part of its sandbox. VanillaOS is based on Debian which uses Apparmor and not SELinux. So the Android container will run all apps and system process nearly unisolated (assuming that Android also has different sandboxing methods apart from SELinux, like namespaces)
  The same goes for PostmarketOS or Ubuntu Touch, where people pretend relying on Waydroid would be fine. (Fun fact: Waydroid originally just supported Ubuntu, thanks aleasto!)
I hope they release a KDE Plasma desktop edition. This looks like a very promising OS. I'm low key kind of considering it... If they ever have a KDE Plasma desktop option.
- I remember reading a blog post (I think from them) that said they didn't mind a KDE version. The one caveat is that it had to be as feature complete and polished as the GNOME version with a full suite of modern QT/KDE apps to replace the GTK ones. Considering the core team are pretty much all GTK devs (some with their own apps) it seems pretty unlikely unless a community team that really likes KDE and the vanillaos concept forms.
- Yeah they are full in on GTK or even VueJS
  It is from the creators of Bottles, which explains some things
  
  Oh it's the same team that made bottles?
  Man that is one great application. It makes using Windows apps in Linux a breeze. Honestly, as a long time Linux user (since 2000) there's been immense progress in that regard and I'm blown away by how easy it is now.
I was going to give it a try in a VM due to ABRoot. Been trying for days to install Private Internet Access's client in a custom Bazzite image, but it's slow-going to troubleshoot each failure to build, and I feel like I'm fighting GitHub more than the install script.
ABRoot looks like it could solve a lot of the problems in a simpler manner on first glance, so gonna give that a go and see if it's the magic I've been looking for.
- Been trying for days to install Private Internet Access’s client in a custom Bazzite image, but it’s slow-going to troubleshoot each failure to build, and I feel like I’m fighting GitHub more than the install script.
  Have you contacted the Discord servers for Bazzite/uBlue and/or BlueBuild in hopes of resolving the issue?
  They're cool and very much willing to help out. They solved my issues a bunch of times with my own custom image. Perhaps, they are even capable of offering a solution to resolve the problem without requiring a custom image.
  Wish ya good luck!
  
  Yep, and I've been working with them to try to solve it. I'm super close, but because of how the script was written, it doesn't play very nicely with GitHub (the script expects a normal user to be running it and for a bunch of common tools/libraries to already be there).
  ABRoot didn't work, so I'm thinking that my only option at this point is to try to make a flatpak, .rpm, or figure out how to make a Podman container that acts more like a filesystem overlay.
  Seems like very few people have tried to do what I'm doing, because it doesn't exist in Flathub, doesn't exist in nix or flakes, doesn't exist in the AUR... They offer ovpn configs that I can just add to the Network Manager, but a part of me doesn't want to give up!
  
  uBlue also has a Discourse forum, which is accessable for anyone no matter if they use a VPN, dont have an account, dont want to provide an email or even a phone number.
  Discord is a total surveillance mess, please dont advertize it. It is a black hole for information.
  Make a distrobox container with fedora
  Run the .run file
  Somehow monitor file changes
  Copy those files to a similar directory structure, use that RPM packaging tool to make an RPM from that
  Layer the RPM, reboot
  May need to enable a systemd service
I am very excited to try this been waiting for 2.0 for a while. Going to go buy a new ssd tomorrow to install it on

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