Grown ass adult man goes on screaming frothing rant on stream because Starfield has pronoun options

— "Fuck you, falling into a world and just getting lost! No, no, no! Current-fucking-day! You take everything we love — all our immersions, all our fantasies, all our escapism — and you can't help shovel your dogshit, fucking-crap ideology into everything!"

— He won't fucking shut up. Knock him out.

[Challenging: Success] — The wavering of his voice, the tears dewing in his eyes, the erupting tantrum; he isn't acting like the usual grifters you've seen. He believes this. Video games are the only thing that he has. You can see before you the faded afterimage of a friendless little boy, kneeling alone in a patch of playground grass and clover. He's been this way forever.

— Don't go soft on a display this pathetic. Make an example out of him. His little computer-buddies need to be too ashamed to agree with him in the open.
- What fucking Disco writer is secretly running this account, goddamn, how do you nail it every fucking time?
  
  it really might be now that i think about it. they had the fuckin chapos as voice actors on release.
- If you're Kurvitz you have to tell us. It's the law
- I hear their voices in my head
- I like how how every half-light suggestion is to kill someone like a wild animal or crawl into a corner and cry
  
  Fight-or-~~flight~~cri
- Always appreciate a good DE Skills post

It always blows my mind how angry capital G Gamers get about games where you very much have the option of playing a cishet guy but can also choose to play as someone different
- They're viscerally angry that they're no longer the only target audience for nerd media.
  
  They don't actually like video games, they just like being catered to.
  Video games are fucking awesome and infinitely varied, so much more than any other kind of media, they're for everyone and that rules you fuckin chud dweebs.
  
  Yeah, you're right, it's just so weird to me, like I didn't mind playing as non-white/male characters in games when I was a literal child and it's not like I was a super enlightened 10 year old or anything
  
  It's extra funny because it's such an unoptimized mess that it actually is still only targeted at them because they're the only ones who can afford the hardware needed to play it
- Also saying "twatwaffle" is incredibly soy lmao
- You should see them when a game doesn't even offer a white cishet option! They go Thermonuclear!
  
  This is why “white genocide” actually does have a meaning beyond “racial integration.” If you take away a white person’s ability to live as the undisputed master of the universe—to take his own experience as normal and privileged, and to presume all others to be debased copies of his own primary existence—then you take away his whiteness.
  from Buffalo Skulls
- If the game was absolute dogshit I could see being annoyed by features that seem pointless. If the core of a game is shit, spending money on QoL features for small demographics seems ridiculous. Make solid mod tools and a solid game and it'll get sorted anyway.
  
  "features" like basic character creation in an rpg lol
  
  "Small demographics" like... women.
  This isn't just for trans people.
  Hell even as a cis man I might want to play a woman, and I'd sure not want my immersion broken by other characters calling my female character "he" if I did so. Like its a roleplaying game, its cool to let me play a role.
  
  Gamers by and large have no idea how video games are made and rarely are they curious to learn. This is one of the classic misconceptions: that there is a finite amount of a perfectly malleable resource (time, money, effort) that goes into creating a video game, and therefore the lack of any feature that you feel is missing from the game can be directly attributed to the presence of any other feature you feel is extraneous. In this case, pronouns are just one of many character creation options in an RPG -- the game genre that is all about the player creating and playing as a unique a character. It's a feature that's easier to implement than, say, even one more face customization option, and not meaningfully different in implementation from the classic "are you a boy or a girl?" option.
  But development resource management's not really what you're complaining about, is it? You mentioned something there about "small demographics." Your point, your actual point, was about people whom you despise receiving any validation from a hobby that you believe should exist for you and only you.
  
  Small demographics

My man's complaining about being constantly taken out of the immersion
Oh, is it asking your pronouns every time you enter a new planet? Every time you boot up the game? Every time you're introduced to a new character? Yeah, wow, that's so excessive
Wait, what's that, only during the character creation screen and then never again?
Has your brain been eaten by maggots?
- Its like bro you're creating a character the game hasn't even started yet.
- Dumb question but wouldn't the game using your preferred pronouns actually add to the immersion?
  Like I guess I play games differently because it doesn't bother me if I play a boy or girl character but if you are so hung up on the game asking your pronouns it seems like that's the kind of person that would WANT the game to call them by their pronouns.
  
  Yeah, of course.
  He's not actually upset about "immersion". He is upset because to him, this is a reminder that his side is "losing the culture war" as he feels. That the natural hierarchy, that right-wing ideology is based upon, is being disrupted because those at the bottom of the totem pole are being acknowledged as members of society on the same level as him. This kind of thing is unnatural and unacceptable to chuds.
  
  Dumb question but wouldn't the game using your preferred pronouns actually add to the immersion?
  Yes. His rant about immersion makes no sense. Also ranting about "current day" over and over again as if California invented gendered pronouns in 2020 and they wouldn't exist in the future?
  It seems to me that he is so caught up in the culture war news cycle that he is unable to understand that these things exist outside of that and his brain is unable to process the word "pronouns" without thinking of Steven Crowder. Like some kind of twisted pavlovian response.
- I did actively notice that there is writing specifically included to take advantage of the fact they have a pronouns selector. The first example I spotted was a "hey new girl" from one particular npc, which would then refer to me with that moniker a few too many times thereafter.
  I feel like if I noticed it and felt like it was included specifically for doing gender affirmations then it probably sends people like this into an absolute frenzy, which makes me laugh.
  
  I mean, selecting gender has been in games since well before pronoun discourse. That's literally the "Prof Oak asking if you're a boy or a girl" stuff. The divergence comes when you have a masc body/face with "she/her" pronouns or sth.
- It doesn't show up in the clip but the game actually has John Oliver pop up in a live feed every 5 minutes to yell "IT IS 2023 AND THERE WAS A CHEETO IN THE WHITE HOUSE" at you

Fun fact: this is what virtue signalling actually looks like.
Whatever Mr Shouty divorced man actually thinks, he's not acting like this because he cares that much about pronouns but for the approval of his garbage audience.

I though gamer nerds liked having robust character creation.
- "the last thing i want to do in a big immersive experience is create a character"

I love that pronoun choices cause so many chuds to melt down, please add them to everything
(also for other reasons of course)

christ, he looks like he's about to cry lmao
- The expression he's making when he TABS BACK IN ANYWAY after that rant had me rolling.
  
  It's all he has
- Yeah but I think these are crocodile tears and all of this is an act
  He doesn't hate this, he probably loves that there's a shitty game that's "gone woke" or whatever so he doesn't have to justify hating BG3 and can just avoid talking about it
  I believe it's the great games that have explicitly gone against his hate filled ideology that really hurt his feelings

ha ha holy fuck i'm still definitely not buying that game, but seeing this man transform into a gammon in real time means that when i meet
on the road i will spare his life.

and that's why i support authoritarianism, cause this asshole thinks he supports "freedom" but he's a fucking liar so he needs to be in a pit with some lead implanted into his brain.

literally

Please give me a pronoun slider except when you move it all the way to "man" it doesn't let you select it

he got owned by a trans npc later and it fucking rocks. these dudes are so fucking frothy and stupid it's awesome. on the one hand screaming about immersion and treaterinos and on the other hand failing to recognize that any reasonable future society is going to have a lot more options than just gender affirming surgeries and hrt
- Oh my God where can I find this video
  
  https://twitter.com/issaDaManz/status/1698410430735999225 this one.
  
  I think it might be this https://twitter.com/heelvsbabyface/status/1698457945711739062
  Guy is an immense fucking baby
  
  https://twitter.com/CaptainFluke/status/1698246816871977247
- The video of him getting owned by an NPC is perfect

Does anyone know how these people react to games like Celeste?
- I'd wager their take is "it's just a fun platformer, stop injecting politics into it!"
  
  Or they just somehow deny the game is trans
- Probably like they reacted to walking simulators. They all hated Gone Home because if you followed a walkthrough you could beat it in 2 minutes

They don’t have pronouns in space
- "This guy after hearing there are also no pronouns in space"

“Muh immersion” is the “but what about the children?” for
- How in the absolute fuck does taking a millisecond to choose "he/him" during character creation and then have characters call you by that pronoun for the rest of the game "break your immersion" anyway?
  
  if you choose "he/him" it gives you a message that says "sorry this interactive experience is for the femmes and thems only" and deletes the install.
  
  His logic was that he's reminded of politics when the game calls it pronouns. He'd probably prefer it to be called gender and have the little arrow signs. It'd be an almost imperceptible difference if you didn't care. If you're having a
  moment it matters a lot

Everything that overgrown infant cried could very well be directed right back at him.
LGBTQ+ people just want to have a good time in fantasy media and get immersed in a story to be fully themselves using pronoun selection and seeing characters reminiscent of them and their people they know in real life.
However these whining maggots have to constantly shovel their soy ideology into everything, crying about muh pronouns as if LGBTQ+ people being happy is such a fucking abhorrent thing. Constantly reminding LGBTQ+ people of the very dangerous hostile body politic that they seek to escape from every time they go on one of these childish right wing tantrums.
And they've been doing so for about a decade now, it's fucking boring, pathetic even, how much importance these fascists still assign to their insane barbaric opinions as more and more people see them for the twisted creatures they are.
- Yeah this is just being a fascist behind a mask. Why else would anyone throw such a tantrum over the miniscule addition of pronouns in a game if they didn't want LGBTQ+ people to exist outside a concentration camp.

I made the mistake of looking up live gamer reactions
to this, and saw a lot of folks agreeing with this ghoul. Man, I feel so safe as a trans person these days.
Also, it is simply astounding how easy it is to spot the reactionary if you even mention pronouns.
- That's the truth!

His entire rant is how he wants an immersive escapist fantasy where trans people don't exist. Is this person popular? He reminds me of that guy TotalBiscuit but less articulate.
- Hey now I remember TB being a pretty good guy. Are you implying otherwise?
  
  tb was a light reactionary, as would be expected from someone of his privileged upbringing
  his reviews were very useful for the technical aspect, which i don't see very often anymore
  he was mostly good on trans rights, though his support came at the expense of otherkin and other non-standard genders (from his "if you're transphobic, fuck off i don't want your money" soundcloud thing)
  
  Complicated. I used to watch him a lot and I'm still very saddened by his death, but it's not that simple. TB was definitely more in the reactionary side of things during gamergate, he regularly threw oil onto the fire or more-or-less directly supported some of it, or made some conversation about it worse by not condemning it and not fighting against it. He was not an awful influence in that time and a lot of people were rightfully pissed off at him.
  I appreciate some of what he did and said. I don't think he was particularily a bad person, more your generic gamer-brained dude, vaguely libertarian, but he was respected and had a very big platform which he used pretty badly whenever it went outside the realm of video game options, consumer-protection and the like. And he also built his brand on being a bit of an insufferable douchebag with an overly exaggerated accent.
  I enjoyed his stuff more as after, as he matured, when he did things in a better context with better people, such as on podcasts. I think if he was alive now, he would probably look at most of the gamergate stuff with regret and shame, but who knows. My feelings about him are complicated.
  
  I just meant that he's yelling at video games over small things

- idk looks like a classic soyboy to me

All these conservative crybabies always project. It's practically guaranteed he used to call people triggered snowflakes. Just look at this pathetic showing. What is he if not precisely a triggered snowflake?
Also, his twitter is just a vertical feed of reactionary claptrap. Such a fucking loser, lol
- I would bet money that this dude doesn't only play male characters.

And the "Snowflake of 2023" award goes to....

lol and then he just tabs back in brother you spirit is broken lol
- It’s like a Karen ranting about how she’s never going to shop in this place ever again if they don’t honor her expired coupon. There’s nothing that would get them to actually stop consuming the product, they just want to feel as if they’re that important to the business that they’ll bend over backwards for them.
- these gamergate guys have such easy lives, raging about the Politics in Vidya is the only way they can feel any sense of meaning.

It's a single option that you click once. I haven't seen it come up at all in gameplay.
What a fucking snowflake.

I want them dead and I think it's funny!

Pronouns are my favorite thing.

These are the people we're losing a culture war to.
- I don't think that's right, there's been incredible progress in the past ten years on this issue. This is what a privileged class looks like when they're losing.
  
  Losing among average people and corporations. Winning in political institutions.
- I mean, thats kind of an open question considering the fact that he's THIS angry BECAUSE he sees himself as losing.
  
  Don't fascists always think of themselves as losing though? Isn't that the whole "strong but also weak" thing?
- if you want to feel better we're losing a culture war to large moneyed interests who are trying to cobble together a coherent form of western fascism with queer people as the main target
  wait that doesn't make me feel better at all
  
  I know this goes without saying on a site like this, but it just puts me further in depression on how enslaved humanity is to the rich, on how okay we are with our standards of living being reduced to that of a modern serf because porky want money. Heck, with climate change, we're being asked to go extinct for porky's superficial pleasures.

Just set it to he/him and get on with your life, jeez. Its like screaming at a changing table in a rest room because you don't have a kid. You might not need it but someone else may. The world does not exist to facilitate you personally.

- Honestly? These people are a good inspiration to lift and get in shape.
  Publicly disagree with them as firmly as possible. Hell, call them a gammon or a cracker to their face, and watch them freak out and go apeshit, and if you're physically stronger than then, have them have to deal with the fact they probably can't kick your ass and get a standing ovation online.

The tab back is funny. It's kind of a shame that what Bethesda produces is remarkably boring, but it has nothing to do with a pronoun option. Also, if this dude is upset about people projecting "current day" society on to the past, just wait until he finds out how people project capitalism back on to feudalism in most of his "escapist immersion fiction".
As an aside, how the fuck can he call other people pathetic when he does this shit enough to stream it with a camera on himself and all he can think to describe what he values about games is "immersions, fantasies, escapisms". You're basically saying that your job is to be an opium sommelier.
- What crushes me is when he screams "OUR IMMERSIONS. OUR FANTASIES, OUR ESCAPISMS"
  Its wild lol like nah it actually isnt yours. This wasnt made with you in mind. There is people behind this project who didnt think of you once when developing it.
  Personally i blame this on protestantism but thats a rant for another post lol
  
  Personally i blame this on protestantism but thats a rant for another post lol
  I'd bet 95% of us here are familiar with the problems of the 'protestant work ethic,' so I'd love to hear that.