Hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters arrested on Capitol Hill ahead of Netanyahu visit
Hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters arrested on Capitol Hill ahead of Netanyahu visit
I don't know how, but this must be the doing of fascist Trump, there is no way Biden would silence free speech for a genocidal warlord. This is why we have to keep dems in office so that there won't be this kind of fascism in the whitehouse!
You do know that the president isn't responsible for every little thing that happens in this country, right? If you actually read the article you'd know it was just the police. They warned them that they needed to leave and they were arrested with no resistance. Not even charged as of yet.
I'm not saying it was the right thing to arrest them, I'm just saying that blaming the president for every little thing that happens that is even slightly political is just stupid.
Clearly Biden has ordered the taking of hostages in solidarity with Netanyahu. /s
Yeah, it's just amusing how if this had happened after November then lemmy would be freaking out about how they were all so right and Trump is literally Hitler and now we will all be forced to be silent... bla bla bla. However, since dems are in office, it's just "totally unavoidable, no way the president could possibly have anything to do with this." Don't even try to act like you wouldn't be one of the first ones yelling, "Nazi Alert!!" if Trump were in there.
Already lemmy is crying about how disgusting it is that Trump would even talk to the genocider, but they are totally silent about the fact that biden and Harris are doing the exact same thing. It just makes dems look obnoxious, which sucks because there are actually lots of good dem points. Their fan base online is almost always too young to maturely discuss them, though.
Let me help you out on the scale of least fascist to fascist...
Pro Palestine ------ Biden ------ Trump/Fascist
Yeah, you're fantastic at repeating. I'm sure there is a kindergarten teacher somewhere beaming with pride. In case you are curious to actually learn what a fascist is, google it. They kill people. Lots of them. THEY START WARS. The number one complaint about them is not that they let states decide on the abortion issue. I agree, women should be free to choose everywhere, anyone who says they shouldn't is an asshole. Still, telling states they can decide that issue and not the feds is absolutely not the worst thing a "fascist" has done. I detest Trump, I have never, and will never, vote for him. That doesn't mean he is a fascist though. Words have definitions, when we start using the wrong words, we lose the ability to converse.
Did they break the law?
I'm a pretty strong free speech advocate but if you're going to engage in protest speech you should take the time to learn about well-established time/place/manner restrictions and not break other obvious laws.
Sidewalks are generally established free speech forums (there are others as well) and you should be able to say pretty much anything there. But you can't stand on the sidewalk and smash car windows and assault people and complain about your speech being silenced when you're arrested. I know that's not at all what happened here, just an illustration.
That said, even if you're doing everything correctly sometimes police will try to stop your speech if they don't like it. Always record such police interactions.
Edit I'm not advocating blind obedience. Civil disobedience is necessary and good, but don't be surprised when you get arrested. And if you think the laws they "broke" need to change, pressure your representatives to change it. But spoiler alert, both parties like being protected from protest inside the statehouses.
You know that black chick who refused to go to the back of the bus a few gens ago? Believe it or not, ILLEGAL!
Was she a criminal who should have "learned" to protest at the well-established time/place/manner? If no, check your conformism. Needing "approval" to protest is anti-democratic.
If you're still not getting it — On a scale of peaceful to genocide, how "criminal" is sitting inside a building without approval?
I also believe in civil disobedience but everyone gets all surprised picachu face when people get arrested for breaking the law. Go ahead and do it, just don't be surprised.
I find there's often an agreement bias. If hundreds of Trump supporters had sat in the same time/place/manner on Jan 6 rather than what happened, would you have agreed with their arrest?
Getting arrested for doing nothing but decrying oppression and existing in the presence of Congress is kinda the point. Makes a bigger scene, catches media attention, gets shared, support grows.
Hell, I think peta is a clever marketing tactic to shift the Overton window. "I'm all for treating animals better, but those guys are assholes!" Same for the climate protestors who fuck up artwork. "we should absolutely fix the climate, but don't fuck with van Gogh!" It gets people to support the ideas of the cause but unifies against the extreme actions taken, while those same extreme actions facilitate further sharing.
It's a failure of the media that they even bother reporting on what some Republican piece of trash has to say about the matter, as if they ever have anything but shit coming out of their mouths.
Certain democrats could benefit from shutting the fuck up as well. There's a god damn fucking genocide happening and these people are happily rolling out the carpet for murderers while complaining about noise in the hallway.
Fuck them all, and fuck this.
For good measure, here's what violent disruption by 400 American Jews looks like in the Capitol:
Good thing American media makes sure not to show these horrible signs calling for violence to end.
so violent! I mean, those banners just hurt my eyes. I has a headache. Its assault! Assault!
(/s if it wasn't obvious. I'm cheering these peeps on. wish I could be there.)
Coming from a still right leaning moderate, that conference was not only a waste of time, but the Israeli PM just straight up lied and told pandering stories about the few Israeli hostage incidents.
He even shamed the Hamas for using the Palestinians as human shields, when we literally have photo and video evidence of the IDF straight up tying Palestinians to the hood of their cars to deter rockets.
Love Jews, Hate Isreal.